There was no "generally" used in your original post.
Anita Sarkeesian has disclosed what she has done with the Kickstarter money
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There was no "generally" used in your original post.
Im a medical device sales guy and virtually all of the Hospitals I work with are "non Profit" institutions. They still have multiple employees that make well over 500k/year a piece. Its just the institution uses its profits to fuel itself in future projects and stuff.
Non-Profit does not mean all of the employees work for free.
The Technomancer
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Which is why Volition's handling of female characters has been continually getting better and Naughty Dog released The Last of Us
Are we really assuming these devs are lying to look good? Considering how insanely angry some people seem to get over this?
Since we are talking about a female figurehead, yeah, I thought waitress was a good comparison, I neglected to point out $5.60 (or my original $7) was less than the federal minimum wage.
But if you want to say she shouldn't pay herself, you are free to make that argument, as we are to counter and mock it.
A sensible response to this would be. If you did not start a project looking at games as a whole, and just casually were buying games. You might probably get MAYBE 10...? a year. Whatever amount of games someone may buy pales in comparison to how many one may need to look at for a broad project. And circumstances are as such that if you are not buying games specifically for research, maybe only 5 games come out per year that you may even be interested in.
The problem with your assertion is that it is HIGHLY contingent that EVERY gamer have exactly the same buying habits.
Good for her!
I think she's making a greater/better impact than most kickstarter campaigns do, and she's creating content, content that has actual merit. I also love seeing entitles douche-nozzles get their panties in a bunch over her opinions. They're kinda proving her points.
I think she's making a greater/better impact than most kickstarter campaigns do, and she's creating content, content that has actual merit. I also love seeing entitles douche-nozzles get their panties in a bunch over her opinions. They're kinda proving her points.
LoV
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No, I was laughing at your post because you're comparing a hard working waitress/waiter to someone who made a blog and received money.
Vigilant Walrus
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As someone who has worked in unpaid internships for more than a year, sometimes it seems to be. I don't know how crowd funding works, which is why I asked. I don't know why you're bringing this toxic tone into it.
Thanks for the explanation mate!
You said you only saw fighting in response to claims she raised awareness. How is that not equivalent to claiming she didn't raise awareness?
Relaxed Muscle
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Finale Fireworker
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No, you are the problem.
People like yourself scrutinize and criticize every single claim or assertion as to being an unsavory action by Anita. She has made herself a figurehead for a movement that promotes healthier representations of women, and you have criticized this as a somehow selfish act. You have insinuated she must not REALLY care because she hasn't made a product that also appeals to the people who single-mindedly and vehemently oppose her product. You claim that the arguments that occur over her work and the feminist movement actually reflect poorly on the woman leading it instead of the people slinging the shit. You also imply she has not been effective by saying somebody who really cared would have "more effective" despite concrete evidence to the contrary.
Then when somebody has gotten very angry with you, because what you're saying is offensive and ridiculous, you are the bigger person because they cannot be civil with you.
And if you didn't mean to say all this, please take a careful look at your posts and realize that this is exactly what you said.
LoV
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I rather do this than be a waiter.
Metallix87
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Um... what? A lot of Kickstarters have a huge impact, and produce content that has merit. Sarkeesian's impact is questionable, and the amount of merit her videos have is likewise questionable.
Relaxed Muscle
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She made at least 250k on donations.
If she invest that money on FF or banks it for herself, is something to see.
Portugeezer
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Was she living in the streets before Kickstarter? I mean, she takes a salary because she got more money than she asked for and is in the third year past the original plan.
It's not like she is living off the KS money. She gets paid to do talks.
GoldandBlue
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She sits home all day and eats potato chips!
It's funny to me that most of the outrage over her KS comes from people who didn't back her, while most backers are happy with what she's done and thrilled she's doing bigger things than the videos now to gain awareness.
Finale Fireworker
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But there was there was in the post you quoted directly, which was in turn a direct explanation of my original post. You can't say "you didn't say that!" when you are replying to a post where I said that. Meaning you either didn't read it or didn't care, because you have already decided I am wrong it doesn't matter what I am saying. You are continuing to interpret posts in a way you can disagree with and you are exhausting.
Rats Off To Ya
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If it's that easy, go do it.
No. Really. Otherwise you're just talking out of your ass.
Neoriceisgood
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But how many more videos has she made than copies of Mario Kart sold in the history of Nintendo?
(all joking aside, I love how she's using her personal color scheme in her charts.. <3)
DryvBy
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Sorry this offended you and hurt your feelings to get that emotional over it.
Stallion Dan
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It says right in the OP she is volunteering her time to the project.
You're having a laugh if you think 40 hours a week are spent on this.
Portugeezer
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The more you think you cannot hate, the more you are likely to hate.
The Technomancer
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Lol what? Your the one with the salty as fuck original post
badcrumble
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She's much more open than them but it should be pretty obvious why she's getting a lot of hate. A lot of people just really have a problem with feminism, sadly.
I thought these kinds of snarky comments only existed under Youtube videos.
Talk about living up to your username.
Metallix87
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Is that really all it boils down to? If you disagree with her, or just don't like her, it's because you have a problem with feminism?
This LoV is why we are laughing at you. If you don't think it's hard, though admittedly a different hard, feel free to give it a go.
BTW, I say this as a former beast of burden myself. There are days when I would gladly give up my current work to unload semis and stock retail shelves again. Of course the pay was crap (hey I think it was $5-7 an hour!), so I like what I do now a lot more.
Plus the amount in dispute here isn't a big yearly salary, even for a laborer in many places.
LoV
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FF videos? No, it's not. The production is sub par and her arguments are recycled. You're putting down real production and editing down if you think FF is hard work.
Neoriceisgood
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Are you serious? This is a ridiculous post.
badcrumble
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I've got some doctrinal disagreements with her on the finer points of feminism in some cases, but if you flat-out oppose her then uh yeah.
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Pretty much every kickstarter draws tons of ire lately. Seems to stem from poeple thinking donated money isn't earned, and that no product from such funding can possibly ever measure up to what was asked of the people requesting the funding initially.
Somehow someone else spending $10 on something they don't view as worthwhile means they own the project somehow.
More_Badass
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People seem to forget that she's not just making videos. Doing talks, appearing on shows and news programs, etc. is really time-consuming. She's become much bigger than just another channel doing YouTube videos, so one would expect that the rate of video production would probably slow down considering everthing else she's doing and dealing with
Not so much funny as expected. I would expect the kind of people who give money to this sort of project to be extremely pleased with the very big successes she's had in spreading her feminist message. If I'm giving money to produce a small series of videos for a cause I believed in I would trade a delay in the completion of the original project due to expanded scope for the kind of successes she's had with this in a heartbeat. Any non backer getting angry over "concern" for her backers clearly have another agenda.
The Technomancer
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I think there is some truth in the fact that a lot of her detractors don't really watch her videos and just dislike the subject matter while throwing around the term "SJW". I understand your frustration that people with actual criticism on her work are lumped in with that crowd, though.
Metallix87
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I disagree. To me, she's been a questionable character from the very beginning, and I think a lot of what she does is manipulate the feelings of the liberal internet for her own benefit. I'd actually liken her to the worst of feminism: Someone exploiting it, as well as the "hate" she gets from more backwards people with regards to the subject, for her own personal benefit. I absolutely believe in the general thrust of feminism, but I don't think Sarkeesian's methods or even some of her points are exactly the "best" of what feminism can offer.
Exactly my point. She's becoming beyond criticism, because you're labelled anti-feminist for daring to speak out against her, the person, and her methods.
Feel free to break the salary down for how ever many people you think worked on the project and the number of hours you think and share what rate you find.
Even assuming a low number of hours, if this is being treated even semiprofessionally, the rates are more than reasonable.
Exactly. People backed her because they were interested in her opinions about sexism in videogames. Now, her series has raised so much awareness that studios like EA DICE, Bungie, Naughty Dog and former BioShock 2 developers (spread across different studios) are making games with better women as characters. I think that is a much better trade-off.
Why did you put the word hate in ""?
Do you believe that hate or the threats she's recieving are fabricated?
Why are people braking it down to hourly wages? You're the most naive person on earth if you think she works on her videos for 40 hours a week. She makes a living on being a speaker and from FF donations, not from the kickstarter. And her output has been absolutely dismal compared to how much money she's raised.
Metallix87
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Because, to me, the more appropriate term is ignorance, but the internet refers to it as hate, for reasons that I can understand. I think with a better representative of the subject, perhaps with a better means of explaining feminism to the uneducated, a lot of this "hate" would die down rather quickly.
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