They shouldve had shouldn't they? Who will you say should take the blame? Hmm?
Has 343 Industries redeemed themselves with Halo:MCC
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They shouldve had shouldn't they? Who will you say should take the blame? Hmm?
MCC is a technological failure.
What's FAR more damaging is the awful writing and franchise direction that has been unleashed by the incompetent people at 343. I couldn't understand the story to save my life. I was falling asleep by the halfway mark.
How does:
1) the writer writing this nonsensical shit think it's good
2) the story/dialogue get approved by the powers that be
I can only assume everyone at 343 is doing lots of coke or something.
What's FAR more damaging is the awful writing and franchise direction that has been unleashed by the incompetent people at 343. I couldn't understand the story to save my life. I was falling asleep by the halfway mark.
How does:
1) the writer writing this nonsensical shit think it's good
2) the story/dialogue get approved by the powers that be
I can only assume everyone at 343 is doing lots of coke or something.
Steverulez
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The team that deals with outsourced stuff and would oversee the work done by Ruffian/Saber/Certain Affinity/United Front Games:
Its an old job listing but explains it sufficiently, outsourcing/working with external studios on big games (as I'm sure you know) is a very popular thing, more so for Halo MCC considering almost all the work was done externally:
343i seem to do all the publishing stuff themselves whereas other games have other people from Microsoft Studios work on them, TV stuff etc all seems to be done inside 343i too.
Probably Phil Spencer, I suspect it would have been his call. MS weren't letting it delayed though.
Wow, so now we're not "hardcore fans" unless we ignore the fact that 343 literally released a broken game and charged $60?
I didn't know hardcore fans weren't allowed to also be intelligent consumers. Guess I'm not a hardcore Halo fan either, since I'm not shelling out for games that don't work. To think I was about to buy an XB1 for the sole purpose of playing the MCC.
wot? It was never released on the xbox one. It was called halo CE anniversary edition for the 360.
Infinite Justice
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Jeff Gerstmann was so on point with this list.
Pathfinder
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That's not actually what I said at all.
Re-read all my posts and then try again if you wish you have a conversation.
Conflict NZ
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You could actively play BF4 easily, the only problem was the random crashes but at least you could play. I would argue this is worse than BF4.
TheDarkBites
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I had to look at the date of the first post, and then I read the first couple of pages. It goes from HYPED to "What the fuck happened?" very quickly. Depressing.
And I was confident that a team whose sole existence depends on a single franchise, which also happens to be the flagship product of a console, would deliver an exceptional product when almost all of the work had been done for them by another developer (Bungie).
See how that worked out for me? I would argue these are bigger reasons to trust a developer to release a working product than new ground.
That's fine if you have faith, you're more than welcome to Beli343 all you would like. I'm just saying that I think your decision is misguided and I don't see the reason to give them any benefit of the doubt. Them's opinions, yo.
It's nothing to do with faith. I'm sorry you're so upset by the situation.
Edit: For the sake of clarity, I was responding to someone who seemed to be saying that technical concerns about Halo 5 based on what's happened with the MCC were warranted, and I was saying that didn't necessarily follow in light of the different teams and completely different development environment/goal involved. If you're talking about editorial issues with the games after the transition from Bungie, that's simply a different conversation.
I complete agree, it made me go from a pre-order to maybe not even buy at all.
It turns out that the "Halo killer" there were whispers about since 2002 wasn't a game after all.
boredandlazy
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Be careful what you say! He's an upstanding gaming 'journalist'!
I'd bet on the latter. Considering the goodwill the game generated early on with its announcement (and before release), I think some backlash is in order. Overly-ambitious projects as a show of brand confidence are a well-earned target when they goof as big as MCC has.
It absolutely has to do with faith wether you want to believe so or not. Why are you willing to believe that the same people who lied to everyone will suddenly ship a pristine product? Because they say they will? You can make the argument that it's a different product as many times as you'd like, but nothing changes the fact that 343i have lied to people about the quality of a product prior to release. 343i employees have willfully checked "satisfactory" boxes on a product they fundamentally knew was broken during development. And these same people, who were overseeing the product through its "completion" are still in charge and likely will be the same people peddling you Halo 5.
It completely takes blind faith to trust that Halo 5 will be a working product based on past performance.
I'm willing to eat crow over the subject and be wrong if Halo 5 ships a working product. But I'm not willing to be a complete fool and pretend to myself that because the product has changed that the personnel, decision making, and integrity have.
Dipship31
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*Insert any of the many many dead.gifs here*
As far as zingers go, that is definitely over 8.8/10.
Dipship31
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Brute Force certainly wasn't the Halo killer, but we finally have a worthy opponent
WordsintheWater
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Did I get my money back for buying this broken ass game? Until I do or it's fixed, I will always complain about this shit.
VincentMatts
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Welpppppppppp.
Suckkssssssss.
I had a 22 in H2A much playing solo in my freetime and of course with my Halo friends. I got reset somehow to rank 1 yesterday
My motivation to play has now took a huge hit unless friends are on.
Well, they should reset the ranks imo once the MM works properly. Thats why i havent invested much time in it tbh. That and it takes me an eternity to get into any game.
Pathfinder
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Welpppppppppp.
Suckkssssssss.
I had a 22 in H2A much playing solo in my freetime and of course with my Halo friends. I got reset somehow to rank 1 yesterday
My motivation to play has now took a huge hit unless friends are on.
Sounds like a fixable problem if you contact their support team.
This thread is a good cautionary tale about counting your chickens before they hatch. Or trusting 343i.
BabyFaceKillah
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Fersho bro.
Go ahead and complain I'm sure it has been working out fine for you.
WordsintheWater
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I will, so don't complain about people complaining cause that's not working out for you either.
I tried playing Halo 2 Anniversary yesterday. Was almost one hour in to a mission on Legendary in local co-op when the game crashed to dashboard and we lost ALL progress in that mission. That's about the fifth time the game has crashed to dashboard in as many hours.
It's grotesque that Microsoft haven't fixed these frequent crashes. In fact they don't give a flying shit about Campaign issues. This is worse than Battlefield 4.
It's grotesque that Microsoft haven't fixed these frequent crashes. In fact they don't give a flying shit about Campaign issues. This is worse than Battlefield 4.
I agree but every playlist is unranked besides H2A, and they said they were resetting the ranks long ago, which happened already in like December. Given the last rank update was that long ago, I figured it was safe by now for that only ranked list.
I'm not so sure. I'll try but a google search yielded a lot of forum posts with a lot of users reporting the same problem with a "343 cannot investigate individual cases". Unfortunately, it's one of those million Halo MCC glitches.
VincentMatts
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Ah i see. I haven't been following the updates on this game. I didn't know they had reset them already even tho MM still needs fixing... Sound counter intuitive.
BabyFaceKillah
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Wasn't complaining just asked some questions.. But I see the wound is still raw so ill drop out peacefully.
Naughty_Doge
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Hahaha that bump, and reading the first pages after what happened.
Love GAF.
Love GAF.
Corronchilejano
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Pathfinder
Member
Nothing really. Patching continues.
BabyFaceKillah
Member
for the lulz
Welpppppppppp.
Suckkssssssss.
I had a 22 in H2A much playing solo in my freetime and of course with my Halo friends. I got reset somehow to rank 1 yesterday
My motivation to play has now took a huge hit unless friends are on.
Your problem was taking a broken MM seriously. Not trying to be harsh, but you should have know better =/
343 fucked Halo about as bad as George Lucas fucked Star Wars. Ruined the original trilogy with a shitty rerelease? Check. Disappointing fourth installment that was worse than its predecessors in every conceivable way? Check.
So at this point my two favorite things ever have both been utterly demolished. If JJ can save Star Wars maybe there's hope that fifteen years from now some studio can salvage the Halo that was and make it great again.
So at this point my two favorite things ever have both been utterly demolished. If JJ can save Star Wars maybe there's hope that fifteen years from now some studio can salvage the Halo that was and make it great again.
Um, no. As I said the last rank update was in early December, and they removed ranks from some playlists but kept them in H2A. I assumed this meant H2A was safe. It's been over 70 days of release. They could have easily removed H2A ranks in that 75 days time but they did not meaning it was safe.
RoyalLaFlame
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343i, what have you done with Halo? What happened?
343i, what have you done with Halo? What happened?
They decided to make a new IP as shitty as it sounds. Seriously. If they did not want to make a Halo game, they should have made their own game.
This is a studio whos only existence is to pump out Halo games. This was the thing MS saw when they built the studio.
343i, what have you done with Halo? What happened?
Dude, you've got to realise what 343i is.
It was put together by corporate execs to pump out Halo games whose design is vehemently dictated by focus groups, the market leader aka CoD and front loaded sales. That's all. This also explains the striking incompetence found in similarly corporate driven entities.
343i was never a studio founded by a bunch of geeks who wanted to make and play awesome games.
HiredN00bs
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Ladies and gentleman, Occam's Razor.
Not quite believe that's possible.
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