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[Rubixcuba]

I guess people do forget easily. Or they don't count unless they are in Sydney.

Good old Newcastle/Central Coast Liberals.

 

[Dryk]

Shorten just asked this exact question to Abbott.

How much worse was the response this time around?

 

[CmdrShepard]

How much worse was the response this time around?

From ABC 24:

Opposition Leader Bill Shorten now asking the PM how he can claim to have a mandate for leading this country, "given that nearly half of his parliamentary colleagues, including two-thirds of his Liberal backbenchers, have today expressed a lack of confidence in the PM."

Tony Abbott responds:
"I can understand why the Leader of the Opposition doesn't want to remember the election. It would be something he would rather forget, but this PM and this Government did win an election and that is the mandate that we are carrying out."

While i disliked Gillard i could not fault her performance as a politician...

 

[WayneMorse]

You want the truth, you can't handle the truth!

I think the real danger for the Libs is if Malcolm decides he doesn't want the job. After all he didn't put his hand up this morning. The party is still in massive denial about their policy direction. While Malcolm is certainly right of centre on economics, he is still left of the IPA. If he feels he has to adopt an economic platform too ideologically extreme, he's hardly going to put his name on it. Being Prime Minister now, while maintaining the current course, means a likely early retirement next election.

I think Turnbull is asking himself whether he wants to takeover now and deal with purging the Abbott wing while in government, or wait until the next election where they will lose big time and start the party from scratch with the Abbott wing in disgrace.

 

[Jintor]

From ABC 24:

Country elects representatives

representatives hate your guts

"lol i won an election tho"

Well, yes and no, Tony, yes and no...

 

[Dryk]

Playing the "mandate" card rubs me the wrong way at the best of times, but in conditions like this it's just sad

 

[Myansie]

I think Turnbull is asking himself whether he wants to takeover now and deal with purging the Abbott wing while in government, or wait until the next election where they will lose big time and start the party from scratch with the Abbott wing in disgrace.

Yep, I can totally understand why he'd go for the latter. If he goes for the leadership now a lot of shit is going to stick from the Abbott mess.

 

[Dead Man]

From ABC 24:



While i disliked Gillard i could not fault her performance as a politician...

What the hell? Weakest response ever. I fucking hate the style of politics in Australia some times. Just having a good old laugh in Parliament, knowing bigger all people pay attention to what you say there,

 

[bobnowhere]

Blib Stooten is having some fun at the moment.

 

[Omikron]

Pink batts...



edit: Think I have heard it 3-4 times now.ffs.

 

[Quasar]

Good old Newcastle/Central Coast Liberals.

I can't imagine it not being a bloodbath here. Though for the most part thats just reverting to type.

 

[Aarglefarg]

They say we're selling out working people but at least there are more of them.

It doesn't sound as good out loud as it did in his head?

 

[Elaugaufein]

They say we're selling out working people but at least there are more of them.

It doesn't sound as good out loud as it did in his head?

Its the standard argument for lowering/abolishing the minimum wage, at least more people are working even if they can't live off it. Though they usually dress it up better.

 

[HowZatOZ]

Its the standard argument for lowering/abolishing the minimum wage, at least more people are working even if they can't live off it. Though they usually dress it up better.

It is political suicide touching the minimum wage and uni fees, yet Liberal are keen to do such a thing with a minority government. So, so strange.

 

[Dryk]

It is political suicide touching the minimum wage and uni fees, yet Liberal are keen to do such a thing with a minority government. So, so strange.

Because if we let them, then wait 20 years for the results to filter through society, and nothing bad happens in between, and their opinions outweigh years of research then we'll be thanking them when the glorious neolib utopia emerges!

 

[Rubixcuba]

I can't imagine it not being a bloodbath here. Though for the most part thats just reverting to type.

Newcastle will be interesting. The swing towards Crakanthorp in the by-election, with no Liberal candidate running, wasn't that great. People around town seem to be pretty supportive of the rail line cut and the governments plans for Newcastle. Karen Howard could possibly get up?

 

[Quasar]

Newcastle will be interesting. The swing towards Crakanthorp in the by-election, with no Liberal candidate running, wasn't that great. People around town seem to be pretty supportive of the rail line cut and the governments plans for Newcastle. Karen Howard could possibly get up?

Well the people I know are all pretty unhappy, especially with the land not being returned to the people and instead probably sold to the likes of the ex Lord Mayor. And also rather unhappy about the port selloff and where the proceeds are going.

Dunno about Howard. Dunno what impact her being a LNP candidate rather than independent will have.

Curious about the kicked out Libs in Charlestown and the like running as independents. Will that just split the conservative vote?

 

[Dead Man]

Well the people I know are all pretty unhappy, especially with the land not being returned to the people and instead probably sold to the likes of the ex Lord Mayor. And also rather unhappy about the port selloff and where the proceeds are going.

Dunno about Howard. Dunno what impact her being a LNP candidate rather than independent will have.

Curious about the kicked out Libs in Charlestown and the like running as independents. Will that just split the conservative vote?

Yeah, that doesn't sound dodgy at all. :/

 

[wonzo]

from todays crikey on the two behind the spill

[Luke Simpkins] has also argued for banning the burqa, and he was one of only four Liberal members to oppose the apology to the stolen generations, citing that “it could lock in negativity about the future,” and that he would “again back children being taken in this situation”.

…

His colleague Don Randall was another of the MPs absent when the stolen generation apology motion was unanimously passed.

 

[Dryk]

from todays crikey on the two behind the spill

Piers Ackerman was right?

 

[markot]

 

[Jintor]

I hear Abbott is going to have a Leigh Sales interview tonight on 7:30. Should be good.

By the by, I heard 60 min had a ridiculous Lindt Cafe reconstruction yesterday and it was real dumb. Anyone confirm?

 

[hidys]

 

[bobnowhere]

I hear Abbott is going to have a Leigh Sales interview tonight on 7:30. Should be good.

By the by, I heard 60 min had a ridiculous Lindt Cafe reconstruction yesterday and it was real dumb. Anyone confirm?

Sounds like a great opportunity for Leigh to further expand her real estate portfolio.

"Mr Abbott, Do you want to bet your house on you leading the coalition at the next election?"

 

[Yagharek]

So Abbott managed to Stop the Votes today. Mark down another delivered three word promise.

 

[Aarglefarg]

AusPoliGAF |OT| Votes? What Votes?

 

[Yagharek]

from todays crikey on the two behind the spill

[Luke Simpkins] has also argued for banning the burqa, and he was one of only four Liberal members to oppose the apology to the stolen generations, citing that “it could lock in negativity about the future,” and that he would “again back children being taken in this situation”.

…

His colleague Don Randall was another of the MPs absent when the stolen generation apology motion was unanimously passed.

Not surprising. Racism thrives in WA.

 

[bobnowhere]

...and now Morgan gives Abbott a right old kicking.

Morgan: 57.5(+2) - 42.5(-2) to Labor

Taken from the 23rd to 27th Jan, so contains some Knighthood influence.

At this rate the next galaxy could be 60-40

 

[mjontrix]

AusPoliGAF |OT| Votes? What Votes?

If EatsChildren was still a mod he probably could do it - now we have to hope for another Aus mod to do it - or save it for Pt 2. before the election (At this rate).

 

[A More Normal Bird]

I beat Kevin Rudd, I beat Julia Gillard, I can beat Bill Shorten as well.

Oh Tony, you do know you didn't win in 2010 don't you?

Good government starts today.

I doubt it.

 

[Jintor]

deafmutes is around, i could pm him

 

[Fredescu]

The Shovel nails it: http://www.theshovel.com.au/2015/02...overnment-task-of-unseating-a-prime-minister/

“When you can’t implement the basic steps required to undermine, weaken, and then knife a sitting PM, you start to wonder – is this Government the real deal?” Mr Shorten said.

 

[Elaugaufein]

The Shovel nails it: http://www.theshovel.com.au/2015/02...overnment-task-of-unseating-a-prime-minister/

Backburner's been doing pretty good too. It must be hard to do political satire when the two best methods for detecting satire are: 1) A politician being frank, honest and open and 2) Being on the plausible side of WTF?! when in reality policy proposals are on the implausible side of WTF?! ( Knighting an IPA member is probably satire, knight Prince Phillip is real)

 

[mjontrix]

deafmutes is around, i could pm him

If the rest of the peeps in this thread approve - go for it!

Man this government - will be highly analyzed in future generations to come.

 

[Yagharek]

The IPA is just a revolving door lobby group isn't it?

 

[PhantomZone]

The Shovel nails it: http://www.theshovel.com.au/2015/02...overnment-task-of-unseating-a-prime-minister/

Bill would know all about that since he's held the knife done it twice himself.

 

[Jintor]

in a shock move it is revealed that yes that is the joke

 

[Dead Man]

in a shock move it is revealed that yes that is the joke

 

[Yagharek]

in a shock move it is revealed that yes that is the joke

Oh no he didn't!

 

[Quasar]

Alan Jones on Q&A. That must have been more train wreckish than normal.

 

[Fredescu]

Alan Jones on Q&A. That must have been more train wreckish than normal.

I'm physically incapable of watching Q&A, but this looks like a good summary: http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment...whomever-the-pm-might-be-20150210-13a75p.html

 

[Yagharek]

I'm physically incapable of watching Q&A, but this looks like a good summary: http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment...whomever-the-pm-might-be-20150210-13a75p.html

The smh in the url probably sums it up as it is

 

[A More Normal Bird]

Alan Jones on Q&A. That must have been more train wreckish than normal.

I saw Bowen clown him twice in the space of about 90 seconds at the beginning; that was enough for me.

 

[Myansie]

The Daily Telegraph are reporting 6 ministers voted against Abbott. Ministers, not members, not a mistake. Apparently Abbott went into the room expecting 70 votes and was visibly rattled when the count came to 61. 9 members lied to him directly, presumably 6 of them ministers.

Ordinarily I wouldn't reference the Tele, but on issues concerning the right they have some cred.

"Trust us"

Edit:Found the link http://m.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/turncoats-six-ministers-among-the-traitors-as-abbott-safe-beyond-the-budget/story-fnpn118l-1227213921518?sv=e3c859344de943dce84d1b294d27db1e

 

[Dryk]

Can't believe its almost time for a new budget

 

[manipulate]

Can't believe its almost time for a new budget

Presumably the next two budgets are gonna be pork-a-riffic

 

[bobnowhere]

Can't believe its almost time for a new budget

Wonder if Joe will recycle all the failed measures from last years budget in the new one or just forget them? Of course Joe may not make the budget anyway!

 

[A More Normal Bird]

I'm eagerly anticipating the contortions required to blame Labor's D&D DISASTER (TM) for the sluggish economic conditions whilst simultaneously explaining that the Liberal's GOD-GIVEN ECONOMIC PROWESS (R) has led them to wisely reduce their rate of fiscal contraction to support the economy through this tough time.

 

[wonzo]

cant possibly imagine why the alp grassroots is drying up. nope no siree bub

 

[EatChildren]

So today I was made redundant, under reasonable (as in, I accept it) terms, entirely due to the Libs restructuring (read: total fucking) of social services. Long story short; amassed frozen accounts and funding for Job Services Providers. There will be waves of redundancies through them, and anybody related to that industry.

THANKS LIBS.