Halo: The Master Chief Collection is STILL broken after 100 days

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I'm so disappointed with this game.

Most of my friends bought the X1 just to replay Halo 2 MP again. Too bad it's almost impossible to play matchmaking with more than a party of two or three.
 
My cousin, buddy and I just got XBones. We are gonna be grabbing GTA V, Destiny, and COD this weekend. Due to the 60% sale we were thinking of getting MCC. But is it really that bad?

for $23 its a pretty damn good deal. The "big patch" SHOULD be here by the end of Feb.
 
Last time I tried it was worse than the time before. It's a damned shame. I've moved on though, I dont expect it to ever work.
 
I played all 4 campaigns on legendary without a single bug, hiccup, or crash. General consensus is that the campaigns are fine, minus checkpoints. Crashes, bugs, etc rarely happen in campaigns.

The sound mixing is totally wrong.

The game has crashed for multiple people (including myself) on Delta Halo Legendary; this has been brought up by multiple folks in the HaloGaf topic.

The inability to save at checkpoints, particularly on harder difficulties is a pretty major deal.

Not to mention the issue with losing playlist progress, even if you finish levels.


Having said all that, the MP certainly functions worse, so I guess that's something.
 
If you'd read anything about the problem you'd know its not completely their fault. The game was designed to run with the Xb1's original party system the one that Microsoft had to backpedal on because it was broken, the problems with MCC come from the incompatibility of the new party system that they had to shoehorn in. However as a Halo fan myself I think if you want to leave the franchise then thats fine. Do it, but don't put down a group of people who whether you liked it or not, poured their hearts into halo 4 and the MCC and despite their problems (and yes I know that there were many) they are entertaining games when they do work, and I personally have to say that aside from the debacle of launch week my MCC actually works fine, I've never had to wait any longer than about 7 mins for a match and thats usually in the low pop playlists.

My point that I'm trying to make and which I'll most likely be called a shill for, is that the Halo community at large has become a rather elitest and entitled bunch and definitely one whose opinion on a game seems to flip with each new game that comes out.

For a long time Halo CE was the pinnacle of FPS for me and quite a few people, then halo 2 came out and people complained that they preferred the multiplayer in Halo 1 despite its lan only nature. Then halo 3 came out and guess what? Turns out the entire community preferred Halo 2 but when it finally became time for Halo Reach to release, everyone complained and said Halo 3 was the best after Halo 2, and of course then with the release of Halo 4 everyone flocked back to reach claiming that they had "Way more fun on Reach".

Its happened with every game that has come out, and I'm sorry but at least for me personally, while I've enjoyed every halo multiplayer, I've never particularly cared whether or not its the way everyone remembered or whether it was every really that important. For me the story has always delievered my money's worth and then some, and Halo 4 definitely did that in a big way for me with the bridging of books and games happening at long last (yes with retcons but still I enjoyed it).

For me it comes down to one thing, have I enjoyed every halo game released? Yes, unequivocally so, I've always had my little niggles but I've enjoyed every single game.

If you don't enjoy the game, don't buy it, if you've already bought it, then trade it in, and get something else, because we buy games to enjoy them don't we? Or do we buy them to berate the Developers and complain about every problem despite the knowledge that the team is DESPERATELY trying to fix it. I mean it could be worse, we could have had a situation like AC: Unity where while ubisoft started patching the hell out of it, they basically said "Oh well, better just move on to the next one"

Just my two cents, not looking to begin an argument or a flame war. I accept you find the problems in MCC untenable and for that I'm extremely sympathetic, but to insult the people who made it, is simply churlish and unbecoming and a increasingly alarming sign of the state that the Halo fanbase I used to love has fallen into.

How can you say you're not trying to start anything with a post like this? It wasn't until the 5th week that the game was first ally brought into a somewhat playable condition. Before that, very few to no matches could be found. I know, because I spent hours everyday trying to get matches.

Saying that that they should just trade it in and be quiet is ridiculous. As well as basically making assumptions about the problems. You don't know what was the cause. Neither do I, because they haven't told us, but you want to just go ahead and say it's the party system of Xbox One, it's this or that based on unsubstantiated rumors.

I don't think anyone is personally insulting anyone in the thread. We're all frustrated that the biggest launch of the year for most of us has been a mess, with no hope left that it'll be fixed in time to salvage any real enjoyment. It literally feels like $78 Canadian dollars down the drain, which is what the game cost me. As well as a Sunset Xbox One console bundle, an Xbox Live 12 month renewal, a play and charge kit, a stereo headset etc.
 
Holy crap, waiting seven minutes for a match to start is something that's acceptable to you? I can't even begin to wrap my head around that.

Have you ever experienced the wait times in RTS matchmaking? Or even something as simple as LoL that has millions of players? I said that 7 minutes was the longest I've had to wait and that it was in the lowest populated playlists. When going into the more popular playlists I've usually gotten a match within 45 seconds

How can you say you're not trying to start anything with a post like this? It wasn't until the 5th week that the game was first ally brought into a somewhat playable condition. Before that, very few to no matches could be found. I know, because I spent hours everyday trying to get matches.

Saying that that they should just trade it in and be quiet is ridiculous. As well as basically making assumptions about the problems. You don't know what was the cause. Neither do I, because they haven't told us, but you want to just go ahead and say it's the party system of Xbox One, it's this or that based on unsubstantiated rumors.

I don't think anyone is personally insulting anyone in the thread. We're all frustrated that the biggest launch of the year for most of us has been a mess, with no hope left that it'll be fixed in time to salvage any real enjoyment. It literally feels like $78 Canadian dollars down the drain, which is what the game cost me. As well as a Sunset Xbox One console bundle, an Xbox Live 12 month renewal, a play and charge kit, a stereo headset etc.

I can say I'm not trying to start anything because my point is valid. I spent the same amount of time the first few weeks trying to find matches however I also at the same time was able to play campaign with minimal problems whatsoever, and so I personally still got my money's worth. I'll admit my trade in comment was stupid and I didn't fully think that through, I meant to say that if you felt that the game didn't give you your money's worth then apply for a refund which I know from what someone replied to me a few moments ago is what some digital owners did.

I'd rather call it an educated guess than an assumption, most of the talked about fixes so far and the ones they seem to be concentrating so much on is the fixing of the party system, which I know for me is still the only real problem I have with online, I might be able to play fine with one of my friends the whole night but the moment another joins in then suddenly we either all crash out or find it impossible to find a game. We each only ever have this problem when trying to matchmake as part of a party.

He most certainly insulted them, perhaps not personally or by name but he did insult them. While the game is not completely fixed 343 have been very vocal about everything they've been doing to fix the game as opposed to Bungie for example who have had numerous problems and glitches reported and only respond with "We're listening". 343 are trying, they know the game isn't what it should be and they've told us this, they're making every possible effort to fix it and they get only berated for it.


I'm sorry that the game is a waste for you, thats an awful experience and I really am sympathetic, I felt the same way when I bought CoD Ghosts to find out it was horrific to play. But how is it 343's fault you bought any of the other products? Particularly when they're used for pretty much everything else on the Xbox.

Again, I'm sorry for the way people feel about whats happened and I am sympathetic, but there is a mature way to express your dissatisfaction with the product or the company and basically calling them B listers as the OP did is not that way. They're professionals and are entitled to courtesy as such, and thats the real point I'm trying to make, not put down the negative experience that people have had or their right to seek a refund or reparations for that negative experience. I apologize for my wording if thats the impression I gave
 
I remember people saying they were buying a XB1 just for that collection. Feel bad for them.

I thought about doing that once, skipped it for personal reasons.

So far I skipped the PS4 (I almost bought it because of Destiny, look how that ended up), and the X1 (this one I almost bought because of the mentioned MCC).
 
Don't worry, once 343 fixes it the wait will be swept under the rug and no one will remember this minor inconvenience

That's the other problem. They took so long to fix the game that no one will be left playing it once it's finally working as it was originally expected to. If it ever does.. I'm starting to doubt even that which is really depressing. I wanted this game so much when it was announced. It was everything I ever wanted Halo-wise. The whole thing is just sad to me at this point.
 
I bet they end up releasing Spartan Strike before they fix Master Chief Collection. They already delayed it stating they were committed to fixing MCC but I don't think they expected it would take this long. That would be the ultimate middle finger.
 
If you'd read anything about the problem you'd know its not completely their fault. The game was designed to run with the Xb1's original party system the one that Microsoft had to backpedal on because it was broken, the problems with MCC come from the incompatibility of the new party system that they had to shoehorn in. However as a Halo fan myself I think if you want to leave the franchise then thats fine. Do it, but don't put down a group of people who whether you liked it or not, poured their hearts into halo 4 and the MCC and despite their problems (and yes I know that there were many) they are entertaining games when they do work, and I personally have to say that aside from the debacle of launch week my MCC actually works fine, I've never had to wait any longer than about 7 mins for a match and thats usually in the low pop playlists.

My point that I'm trying to make and which I'll most likely be called a shill for, is that the Halo community at large has become a rather elitest and entitled bunch and definitely one whose opinion on a game seems to flip with each new game that comes out.

For a long time Halo CE was the pinnacle of FPS for me and quite a few people, then halo 2 came out and people complained that they preferred the multiplayer in Halo 1 despite its lan only nature. Then halo 3 came out and guess what? Turns out the entire community preferred Halo 2 but when it finally became time for Halo Reach to release, everyone complained and said Halo 3 was the best after Halo 2, and of course then with the release of Halo 4 everyone flocked back to reach claiming that they had "Way more fun on Reach".

Its happened with every game that has come out, and I'm sorry but at least for me personally, while I've enjoyed every halo multiplayer, I've never particularly cared whether or not its the way everyone remembered or whether it was every really that important. For me the story has always delievered my money's worth and then some, and Halo 4 definitely did that in a big way for me with the bridging of books and games happening at long last (yes with retcons but still I enjoyed it).

For me it comes down to one thing, have I enjoyed every halo game released? Yes, unequivocally so, I've always had my little niggles but I've enjoyed every single game.

If you don't enjoy the game, don't buy it, if you've already bought it, then trade it in, and get something else, because we buy games to enjoy them don't we? Or do we buy them to berate the Developers and complain about every problem despite the knowledge that the team is DESPERATELY trying to fix it. I mean it could be worse, we could have had a situation like AC: Unity where while ubisoft started patching the hell out of it, they basically said "Oh well, better just move on to the next one"

Just my two cents, not looking to begin an argument or a flame war. I accept you find the problems in MCC untenable and for that I'm extremely sympathetic, but to insult the people who made it, is simply churlish and unbecoming and a increasingly alarming sign of the state that the Halo fanbase I used to love has fallen into.



This quote quite simply terrifies me and reminds me of the posts stinkles made about the death threats that had been made against him and his family. What on earth has happened to the gaming community that a comment like this could even be made? What gives you the right? If you purchased a book and then halfway through find out that you don't like it would you then suggest that the Author should quit and do something else? Your comment astounds me and I hope it stems purely from frustration because if you actually believe what you said then I am truly frightened

Have you ever experienced the wait times in RTS matchmaking? Or even something as simple as LoL that has millions of players? I said that 7 minutes was the longest I've had to wait and that it was in the lowest populated playlists. When going into the more popular playlists I've usually gotten a match within 45 seconds
It's pretty transparent you have an agenda here.maybe you should stop while you're ahead
 
If you'd read anything about the problem you'd know its not completely their fault. The game was designed to run with the Xb1's original party system the one that Microsoft had to backpedal on because it was broken, the problems with MCC come from the incompatibility of the new party system that they had to shoehorn in. However as a Halo fan myself I think if you want to leave the franchise then thats fine. Do it, but don't put down a group of people who whether you liked it or not, poured their hearts into halo 4 and the MCC and despite their problems (and yes I know that there were many) they are entertaining games when they do work, and I personally have to say that aside from the debacle of launch week my MCC actually works fine, I've never had to wait any longer than about 7 mins for a match and thats usually in the low pop playlists.

My point that I'm trying to make and which I'll most likely be called a shill for, is that the Halo community at large has become a rather elitest and entitled bunch and definitely one whose opinion on a game seems to flip with each new game that comes out.

For a long time Halo CE was the pinnacle of FPS for me and quite a few people, then halo 2 came out and people complained that they preferred the multiplayer in Halo 1 despite its lan only nature. Then halo 3 came out and guess what? Turns out the entire community preferred Halo 2 but when it finally became time for Halo Reach to release, everyone complained and said Halo 3 was the best after Halo 2, and of course then with the release of Halo 4 everyone flocked back to reach claiming that they had "Way more fun on Reach".

Its happened with every game that has come out, and I'm sorry but at least for me personally, while I've enjoyed every halo multiplayer, I've never particularly cared whether or not its the way everyone remembered or whether it was every really that important. For me the story has always delievered my money's worth and then some, and Halo 4 definitely did that in a big way for me with the bridging of books and games happening at long last (yes with retcons but still I enjoyed it).

For me it comes down to one thing, have I enjoyed every halo game released? Yes, unequivocally so, I've always had my little niggles but I've enjoyed every single game.

If you don't enjoy the game, don't buy it, if you've already bought it, then trade it in, and get something else, because we buy games to enjoy them don't we? Or do we buy them to berate the Developers and complain about every problem despite the knowledge that the team is DESPERATELY trying to fix it. I mean it could be worse, we could have had a situation like AC: Unity where while ubisoft started patching the hell out of it, they basically said "Oh well, better just move on to the next one"

Just my two cents, not looking to begin an argument or a flame war. I accept you find the problems in MCC untenable and for that I'm extremely sympathetic, but to insult the people who made it, is simply churlish and unbecoming and a increasingly alarming sign of the state that the Halo fanbase I used to love has fallen into.



This quote quite simply terrifies me and reminds me of the posts stinkles made about the death threats that had been made against him and his family. What on earth has happened to the gaming community that a comment like this could even be made? What gives you the right? If you purchased a book and then halfway through find out that you don't like it would you then suggest that the Author should quit and do something else? Your comment astounds me and I hope it stems purely from frustration because if you actually believe what you said then I am truly frightened

LOL you can't be serious
 
If you'd read anything about the problem you'd know its not completely their fault. The game was designed to run with the Xb1's original party system the one that Microsoft had to backpedal on because it was broken, the problems with MCC come from the incompatibility of the new party system that they had to shoehorn in.

OOOf, that's a biggy, from a testing and re-coding perspective. I can understand why they're having issues with patching it too.

I'm a PS4 owner only, but really feel for you guys - this is akin to UC4 launching this year and being broken in terms of IP profile, only worse. I got it a little with DC but that's a brand new IP and it has largely been fixed. I've got a couple of Xbox owning mates back in the UK who are gutted about this.

Hope MS/343i get it working soon.
 
Hence why I've written off Halo. Albeit there are other reasons - I just don't care for the franchise as much as I once did. Other games are simply more compelling and more worth my time and attention.
 
This quote quite simply terrifies me and reminds me of the posts stinkles made about the death threats that had been made against him and his family. What on earth has happened to the gaming community that a comment like this could even be made? What gives you the right? If you purchased a book and then halfway through find out that you don't like it would you then suggest that the Author should quit and do something else? Your comment astounds me and I hope it stems purely from frustration because if you actually believe what you said then I am truly frightened

You see, this book analogy would work if the book randomly lost pages, even passages of texts as you're reading them, sends you back a chapter, randomly skips the next 3 chapters, 4 random people suddenly appear next to you when you close the book, has parts of the rough draft in there for some reason, or just simply wouldn't even appear to function as a book.

This game is trash on a technical level, and would really surprise me if someone didn't lose their job over this.
 
I remember people saying they were buying a XB1 just for that collection. Feel bad for them.
*raises hand*

I bought and sold my Xbox One because of Halo: MCC. I'll gladly buy another XB1 someday if I have an incentive to. I feel too burned by the MCC for it to be enough. Halo 5 might do it, but Halo will never be a guaranteed purchase for me again.
 
My cousin, buddy and I just got XBones. We are gonna be grabbing GTA V, Destiny, and COD this weekend. Due to the 60% sale we were thinking of getting MCC. But is it really that bad?

Let's just say you'd probably all have some trouble playing multiplayer together.
 
Are we going to have a thread for every day the mcc isn't fixed or something? I understand if people are mad but imo this is unnecessary
 
*raises hand*

I bought and sold my Xbox One because of Halo: MCC. I'll gladly buy another XB1 someday if I have an incentive to. I feel too burned by the MCC for it to be enough. Halo 5 might do it, but Halo will never be a guaranteed purchase for me again.

Same here. Bought it for MCC. Didn't work 2-3 weeks later. Sold it. I feel so much better about the whole ordeal. Ended up losing some money on it but I did get to play SO and FH2, so it wasn't all bad.

And I'll chime in for the LoL matchmaking Rts brought up. I play in a group of 3 to 5 people. Matchmaking is 10-15 seconds. So I'm not sure what he was trying to say exactly.
 
Welcome to new age of gaming guys. i remember there was a time when games shipped completely functional with no day 1 patches or DLC milking.
 
Can someone give me a quick summary of the big issue? Is it all around the online match making component? I was thinking of picking it up for solo or online co-op with friends campaign.
 
At this point, I'm wondering whether or not it's broken, or simply nobody is playing it. It's rarely in the Top 10 games played on Xbox One, no wonder match times are long. Functionally everything seems fine to me, I just have no desire to play it as it seems that nobody else is.

To put some numbers on it, Battlefield 4 is currently the 9th most played game with 22k players on right now. (thanks to BF4stats.com) MCC is not even on the Top 10 list, just to put things into perspective.
 
Well they knew it was broken and still expected 60 bucks for it so my sympathy for them is like 0. They are just making games that someone already made for them and failing miserably.
 
Wow what a nightmare. That really sucks guys. Im sure 343 is hard at work on a fix although with how many other studios had their hands in the game (Certain Affinity, Ruffian Games, Saber Interactive and Blur Studio according to Wikipedia) and the complications of multiple games in the collection with their own potential quirks, I can't imagine it's easy. Not to mention surely all hands at 343 should be at work on Halo 5.
 
Ohhhh let him go on... If the next patch doesn't fix the issue I wonder what he will come up with or if he finally explodes!

Right its obvious the reaction I'm getting in here so this is likely to be my final post on the matter. I do not have an agenda in any of this, I purchased a game that I got my money's worth out of even through its faults, granted my online experience was the same as every one elses at launch and in the weeks and even months since. However for me personally, the game is working albeit still with problems that need addressing. I know that this isn't the case with most people and I reiterate again that I'm sympathetic, but that I simply feel differently about the game.

I started what I said by saying I was going to be called a shill for it and I see now that I was correct. I find it absolutely insane that someone who defends a game that most people find to not meet their satisfaction automatically makes them a shill or a troll. Is it impossible for me to simply have liked the game? Or that maybe I'm just a bit more patient? I never once said that the MCC is fixed or that 343 should stop trying to fix it and I do realize that in particular my comment about trading in the game as a solution was ill thought and wasn't the real point I was trying to make, but thats ok. If you've made your mind up about me it doesn't matter.

At the end of the day, I'm still going to enjoy the game I bought, and thats all that matters to me, so call me what you like.

I'm out
 
What else is there to say at this point? Hopefully this clusterfuck serves as a lesson to Microsoft so that they will think twice before they rush a project out on the market.

Wow what a nightmare. That really sucks guys. Im sure 343 is hard at work on a fix although with how many other studios had their hands in the game (Certain Affinity, Ruffian Games, Saber Interactive and Blur Studio according to Wikipedia) and the complications of multiple games in the collection with their own potential quirks, I can't imagine it's easy. Not to mention surely all hands at 343 should be at work on Halo 5.
Blur Studio did the new cinematics, so they didn't have a hand in the actual game developement.

You could add United Front Games to the list though. They did some support work on the game.
 
Last time I tried it was worse than the time before. It's a damned shame. I've moved on though, I dont expect it to ever work.
For me toi, I have played total of 12 MP matches. I got into few games after first patches, now I can't get into any. Tried every single trick customer service told me, nothing. And they refuse to give me refund, said I have had game for too long. So I get punished for giving chance for 343 to fix it, it's not good to be loyal I guess...
 
The worst might be that so many of us who bought it for full price alpha tested this for them for 100 days and now those who waited are rewarded with being able to get it for $24.
 
Does the singleplayer work properly?

I haven't got Gold, so wondering if I buy it and play the singleplayer missions everything on that side will work.
 
Right its obvious the reaction I'm getting in here so this is likely to be my final post on the matter. I do not have an agenda in any of this, I purchased a game that I got my money's worth out of even through its faults, granted my online experience was the same as every one elses at launch and in the weeks and even months since. However for me personally, the game is working albeit still with problems that need addressing. I know that this isn't the case with most people and I reiterate again that I'm sympathetic, but that I simply feel differently about the game.

I started what I said by saying I was going to be called a shill for it and I see now that I was correct. I find it absolutely insane that someone who defends a game that most people find to not meet their satisfaction automatically makes them a shill or a troll. Is it impossible for me to simply have liked the game? Or that maybe I'm just a bit more patient? I never once said that the MCC is fixed or that 343 should stop trying to fix it and I do realize that in particular my comment about trading in the game as a solution was ill thought and wasn't the real point I was trying to make, but thats ok. If you've made your mind up about me it doesn't matter.

At the end of the day, I'm still going to enjoy the game I bought, and thats all that matters to me, so call me what you like.

I'm out

You know you're not actually Master Chief right? No ones made their mind up about you. You said some dumb shit, and people called you on it. Own it, and go from there.
 
I remember people saying they were buying a XB1 just for that collection. Feel bad for them.

I was one of those.

If it wasn't for Forza Horizon 2 I pretty much would never turn on my Xbone lol. I've stopped trying to get TMCC working until they release some huge patch or something that fixes everything.
 
Sadly Microsoft has stopped offering refunds for the game still not working because according to them, 343 ask them to no longer give refunds on the basis that they gave buyers a month of Gold.
 
Does the single player still work well?
Aside from a few infrastructural bugs and a ton of porting issues that may or may not bother you, more or less.

If you weren't familiar with the games and were playing levels solo from start to finish without stopping, there's a good chance you'd never know anything was amiss. (Although some people might give you funny looks when you, say, start complaining about aspects of Halo 3's audio mixing which are phenomenal in the 360 version.)
 
I'm sorry that the game is a waste for you, thats an awful experience and I really am sympathetic, I felt the same way when I bought CoD Ghosts to find out it was horrific to play. But how is it 343's fault you bought any of the other products? Particularly when they're used for pretty much everything else on the Xbox.

What are you even trying to do here? Call of Duty: Ghosts wasn't broken like MCC was. This has probably been the worst launched game of the modern online era. It's even surpassed Gears of War 2. There wasn't a single area of this game that worked well, or without issues. From the UI, campaign crashes and errors, freezes, glitches, bugs, no matches found, party disconnects, rosters not showing up, even things like 1th.

Having an "untracked build error" blue screen while playing Halo 4 campaign offline isn't because of the party system which your educated guess is based on.

Also what do you mean it's not 343's fault I bought the rest? Why would I buy this console if not for Halo? It's literally gathered dust since the Halo 5 beta ended. I didn't renew my live, I didn't buy a headset so I could play #IDARB, I bought it thinking I could play Halo: MCC with my friends and family all year. I had friends take days off work to play when it launched. All of them have traded in the game now, and didn't even play Halo 5. Your shoes don't fit my feet, and your circumstances are different from mine.
 
My friend and I bought it to play online coop and that is still broken as hell. We held off playing the rest of it until they finally patch it but there is still no word on getting it fixed. It just simply does not work right. (and most of the hate seems to go to the competitive MP so I am afraid the campaign coop is going to be overlooked)

The first game was a lag fest in online coop to the point that it fell to single digit frame rate (strangely enough there was one other game out of the hundreds of coop games we have played over the years that had this sort of online lag..and that was the 360 version of the same game...which has me wonder if there is a problem with the code) The second game keeps glitching so we can't finish missions. The third game took 9 tries to even start and then it kicks us out before we can even finish the first mission.

I have played a shit load of Halo over the years, so we picked this up ONLY to coop it online. We can't do that, and I can't get my money back for the game.
 
Sadly Microsoft has stopped offering refunds for the game still not working because according to them, 343 ask them to no longer give refunds on the basis that they gave buyers a month of Gold.

Wait, is this really true? You have a source for that, please?
 
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