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Jez Corden says Halo The Master Chief Collection is also on the way for PS5.

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mayham2199

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FoxMcChief said:
If they bundle it with a console.

Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me.
Fool me thrice, ….
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The games sell way better than Killzone. I have no idea what this sites obsession is with trying to down play the sales on Horizon. Do you think Sony is really out there just losing money on this series when they could have GG make something else that is more profitable? Sony has all the data, they know how well this game is selling. Let me guess Spiderman 2 only sold well because it was also bundled? COD only sold well because it was bundled as well.
 
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I'm not too keen on Halo and Gears going to PS - played them enough so for me they're meh announcements.

But I would be keen on more of the AA games Xbox is holding prisoner. Killer Instinct springs to mind - that would be one game I'd buy day one on PS.

Nothing much on Xbox series springs to mind as worth porting, but I bet there's stuff hiding out in the Xbone and 360 back catalog that'd be worth a look.

I think as well that if MS really are going the whole way, they should look into a version of GP that is equivalent to EA pass and stuff - a sub service that is limited to MS game studios stuff, and see if Sony will accept that on their platform. I won't buy that much individually, but as part of a collection I might be more interested in dabbling.
 
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Halo games retained their value

Sony:

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Microsoft fanboy:

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Tiago Rodrigues

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Reading this headline and then thinking about this tweet only makes me laugh



edit: the way 15 years were enough for this brand to decline like this is incredible.

It's also even more incredible how they are trying to rebrand themselves as this huge company like they always intended to go 3rd party, but their marketing was never about than when they were trying to purchase Bethesda and then Activision (and we know from that long court case they never even once mentioned going 3rd party...and were forced to do so with COD only)
 
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nate the hate is on fire he was right about most of the tga reveals and right about the big first party moves from x box too ps5.
 
SkylineRKR

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With Forza Horizon MS literally took one of its biggest exclusive IP. There is no stopping them now.

Tiago Rodrigues said:
Reading this headline and then thinking about this tweet only makes me laugh



edit: the way 15 years were enough for this brand to decline like this is incredible.

It's also even more incredible how they are trying to rebrand themselves as this huge company like they always intended to go 3rd party, but their marketing was never about than when they were trying to purchase Bethesda and then Activision (and we know from that long court case they never even once mentioned going 3rd party...and were forced to do so with COD only)
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This is the main problem with Xbox. Lack of growth.

Gears was FAR more popular than Uncharted, it also sold a lot of DLC. Halo was even more popular than that. But Gears never changed, they released a good few after 3 and by another studio. I liked Gears 5, but it felt like playing a bloated and more whiny version of Gears 1. It just doesn't go anywhere. Halo just got a lot worse after Reach, and instead of growing it fell of a cliff. Halo doesn't go anywhere either. They lack a good vision.

Uncharted went from a good seller on PS3 to a fucking behemoth that sells 20 million+ copies. That shit movie raked in like 500 million in cash too. Halo has this lame ass series no one gives a shit about. God of War 2018, even though I prefer the OGs, it went to sell 30 million or something. More than Halo 2 and 3 combined. A single player game. Somehow MS couldn't elevate their IP, and Sony could.
 
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mayham2199

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Tiago Rodrigues said:
Reading this headline and then thinking about this tweet only makes me laugh



edit: the way 15 years were enough for this brand to decline like this is incredible.

It's also even more incredible how they are trying to rebrand themselves as this huge company like they always intended to go 3rd party, but their marketing was never about than when they were trying to purchase Bethesda and then Activision (and we know from that long court case they never even once mentioned going 3rd party...and were forced to do so with COD only)
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The new talking points are what is becoming funny to me. MS taking money from PS is probably the top one. Seems no one understands what the whole point of running a platform is.
 
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EN250

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This arsehole was bitching and screaming that Xbox exclusives would remain that way and everyone was hoping on something impossible, now it's the first one to be claiming which game is getting ported next? Lmao

Everyone knows MCC and GeOW collections are going multiplat, what we want to know is when
 
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TehGoomba7s

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Tiago Rodrigues said:
Reading this headline and then thinking about this tweet only makes me laugh



edit: the way 15 years were enough for this brand to decline like this is incredible.

It's also even more incredible how they are trying to rebrand themselves as this huge company like they always intended to go 3rd party, but their marketing was never about than when they were trying to purchase Bethesda and then Activision (and we know from that long court case they never even once mentioned going 3rd party...and were forced to do so with COD only)
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Pretty funny how a decade later Horizon Zero Dawn had outsold Halo 5 & infinite and Gears 4 and 5 all combined. How the mighty fell.
 
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TehGoomba7s said:
Pretty funny how a decade later Horizon Zero Dawn had outsold Halo 5 & infinite and Gears 4 and 5 all combined. How the mighty fell.
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The weird part is how little Sony have actually done, and yet ended up in this position.

Actually, maybe that's exactly the wrong way to look at it: MS have been constantly pivoting since around 2010 in an attempt to gain more market-share, and in almost every instance its ended up backfiring on them.
 
diffusionx

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SkylineRKR said:
With Forza Horizon MS literally took one of its biggest exclusive IP. There is no stopping them now.



This is the main problem with Xbox. Lack of growth.

Gears was FAR more popular than Uncharted, it also sold a lot of DLC. Halo was even more popular than that. But Gears never changed, they released a good few after 3 and by another studio. I liked Gears 5, but it felt like playing a bloated and more whiny version of Gears 1. It just doesn't go anywhere. Halo just got a lot worse after Reach, and instead of growing it fell of a cliff. Halo doesn't go anywhere either. They lack a good vision.

Uncharted went from a good seller on PS3 to a fucking behemoth that sells 20 million+ copies. That shit movie raked in like 500 million in cash too. Halo has this lame ass series no one gives a shit about. God of War 2018, even though I prefer the OGs, it went to sell 30 million or something. More than Halo 2 and 3 combined. A single player game. Somehow MS couldn't elevate their IP, and Sony could.
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I am not sure you could tell a young zoomer this and they would believe you but Halo 3 was one of the biggest entertainment products ever when it came out. Now the series is totally irrelevant, not even 2nd tier. Sea of Thieves is a bigger game for MS than Halo and it's not close. The mismanagement of this franchise is just incredible but hey they got a girlboss in charge.
 
Humdinger

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TropicanaTwista said:
Absolutely insane that that was a tweet from 13 months ago. It's gets worse with each passing day 😂
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Plus he misused "it's/its" twice in two sentences. That's the real embarrassment.

BigLee74 said:
It’s pretty clear every future Xbox game will be going to PS.

I will be very surprised though if they release on the PS at the same time (current contracts being the exception). I think they will probably give Xbox/PC at least a 3 month exclusivity period - they have to leave some reason for people to buy the next Xbox, surely?

Surely?
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I don't know. I understand what you're saying, and I've thought the same in the past. But this is all about money for MS, and they know they lose money when there is a delay. The game is less fresh, and there is less excitement around it. Take Indiana Jones, for example. Even though it's a short delay, there will be considerably less excitement and momentum around its release on PS5 than when it first released.

Delays can also be very costly, because some games have a large amount of hype behind them, which dissipates after the game is released. Starfield is the poster child for that one. Think of how many PS5 copies Starfield would have sold, if it were released day and date on PS5, back when hype and expectations were high. But after it was released, hype fell through the floor. The game was largely considered a disappointment. When it comes to PS5 now, after a long delay, sales will be only a tiny fraction of what they could have been.
 
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James Sawyer Ford

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Humdinger said:
Plus he misused "it's/its" twice in two sentences. That's the real embarrassment.



I don't know. I understand what you're saying, and I've thought the same in the past. But this is all about money for MS, and they know they lose money when there is a delay. The game is less fresh, and there is less excitement around it. Take Indiana Jones, for example. Even though it's a short delay, just a 4-6 months, there will not be the excitement and momentum around its release on PS5 that there was when it came out for the first time a couple months ago.

Delays can also be very costly, because some games have a large amount of hype behind them, which dissipates after the game is released. Starfield is the poster child for that one. Think of how many PS5 copies Starfield would have sold, if it were released day and date on PS5, back when hype and expectations were high. But after it was released, hype fell through the floor. The game was largely considered a disappointment. When it comes to PS5 now, after a long delay, sales will be only a tiny fraction of what they could have been.
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Yeah PlayStation is just too big to ignore for Day 1 releases

MS is already setting a precedent for other studios - Doom is day 1. The Outer Worlds 2 is Day 1.

The only reason Indy is not, is just down to timing. They are both Bethesda/Obsidian games like the ones above.

It's not fair to their other teams for them to NOT be day 1. Why is CoD Day 1, Doom Day 1, but not Fable or Gears? Makes zero sense. You're just hurting the Gears or Fable team who may miss financials and face layoffs while other studios get special treatment? Nah, not how it works.
 
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Honestly?

Good. About time sole playstation owners got to play a franchise that wasn't a TP action game.

Playstation has not had a good shooter in decades. Killzone was such a promising IP that they shat the bed hard with it and quite frankly with how GG tanked that series with the story, i wasn't even surprised with how shit Horizion 2's story devolved as it got near its ending.

And then resistance? Ugh- Resistance 2 had set up so much promise for the story. And then 3, was just another suffer fest with a rushed ending.
 
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Humdinger

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James Sawyer Ford said:
Yeah PlayStation is just too big to ignore for Day 1 releases
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Yeah, especially for big-budget games. I'm thinking of Fable, for instance. They might still keep some smaller titles exclusive, either temporarily or permanently.

James Sawyer Ford said:
MS is already setting a precedent for other studios - Doom is day 1. The Outer Worlds 2 is Day 1.

The only reason Indy is not, is just down to timing. They are both Bethesda/Obsidian games like the ones above.
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I wonder why Avowed isn't day and date? Maybe they didn't get the PS5 version up and running until later.

James Sawyer Ford said:
It's not fair to their other teams for them to NOT be day 1. Why is CoD Day 1, Doom Day 1, but not Fable or Gears? Makes zero sense. You're just hurting the Gears or Fable team who may miss financials and face layoffs while other studios get special treatment? Nah, not how it works.
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Right. When Phil says "it's about the games," he really means it's about those games' ability to survive - i.e., turn a profit. If you do the timed exclusivity thing, you hurt those games' chances of surviving (and the studios as well, as you say).

I wouldn't have said that 6 months ago. Back then, I expected them to put out timed exclusives and hold their pillar franchises exclusive for a while. But they are pivoting faster than I expected.
 
//DEVIL//

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People bought Xbox One and X, MS fucked them with no exclusive games on their platform. they will release their games on PC too day one. killing the whole system. but some remaining dedicated fans kept going.

People bought Series S and X. Oh my god this is it. we got Activision too. Sony is Doomed... MS fucked them by releasing all their games old and new on PlayStation.


If any of you mfers trust MS for anything ever again and buy the next-gen Xbox, then you deserve to get fucked. I will not feel anything for you and I will laugh at your tears.
 
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Not_A-Cop_Maybe

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James Sawyer Ford said:
It's not fair to their other teams for them to NOT be day 1. Why is CoD Day 1, Doom Day 1, but not Fable or Gears? Makes zero sense. You're just hurting the Gears or Fable team who may miss financials and face layoffs while other studios get special treatment? Nah, not how it works.
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Lol no.

Spencer's been pretty consistent on his message about these IP's. Even with the memes on gaf about not "believing his lies" and shit, he has fundamentally said they they dont see that single IP's would be enough to get people out of an ecosystem they are comfortable with. As such, with their position in the market, they can go the route of putting their games on all platforms eventually.

He also did say that existing IP's would not be held hostage to one platform, hence why Doom, COD, etc is coming day 1. At the moment, i cant think of an exsting IP that they own that hasnt come to all platforms. New IP's like starfield absolutely can get exclusivity for a time and then put on playstation a year later. Regardless of your opinions on Starfield, it will sell on playstation.

Gears and Fable have been xbox exclusives forever. If they decide to release it first on xbox platforms and not on playstation day 1, that is their prerogative. That's a completely acceptable way to respond to being priced out of exclusivity by sony. There is no way they havnt taken into account whether a timed exclusivity or a all platform strategy would benefit them.
 
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//DEVIL// said:
People bought Xbox One and X, MS fucked them with no exclusive games on their platform. they will release their games on PC too day one. killing the whole system. but some remaining dedicated fans kept going.

People bought Series S and X. Oh my god this is it. we got Activision too. Sony is Doomed... MS fucked them by releasing all their games old and new on PlayStation.


If any of you mfers trust MS for anything ever again and buy the next-gen Xbox, then you deserve to get fucked. I will not feel anything for you and I will laugh at your tears.
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Tiago Rodrigues said:
Reading this headline and then thinking about this tweet only makes me laugh



edit: the way 15 years were enough for this brand to decline like this is incredible.

It's also even more incredible how they are trying to rebrand themselves as this huge company like they always intended to go 3rd party, but their marketing was never about than when they were trying to purchase Bethesda and then Activision (and we know from that long court case they never even once mentioned going 3rd party...and were forced to do so with COD only)
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15 years isnt bad to be fair. A "bad" halo game is still leaps and bounds better collectively than 90% of games in the same genre. The total package content wise per Halo game since H3 has been better than most game releases in the same time. How many games in general or the genre come with a fleshed out campaign, competitive multiplayer, map maker, theatre mode, community browsers, etc as one package. I can realistically think of 2 or 3 games. Doom 2016 (maybe eternal? i never played it yet) and space marine 2 i guess?

Killzone and resistance fucking up was practically a speed run and they put those games out on literally different platforms (psp, vita, etc) during the same gen in less than 10 years.
 
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Humdinger

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If any of you mfers trust MS for anything ever again and buy the next-gen Xbox, then you deserve to get fucked. I will not feel anything for you and I will laugh at your tears.
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That's kind of rough, lol.

To be fair, some people will buy the next Xbox because they want access to GP and their games library on a high-end console or a handheld. That's reasonable.
 
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Neilg

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I made a bet with my friend last year that Halo would not be announced for PS within 18 months (native port, no streaming). I have 5 months left to win the bet, loser gets the other a very nice bottle of scotch. Getting a little dicey now.
 
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Dutchy said:
Nah I totally expected the other games to be ported over eventually. But Halo is the Xbox IP. I feel like they're not gonna turn it over for symbolic reasonings mostly since it's not like the game is going to net anyone involved any significant revenue (specifically talking MCC cause it's playerbase is stagnated and has no microtransitions).
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Microsoft( specifically Phil) is on record as saying there's 'no red lines' on what can come over. I suspect the only reason MCC hasn't popped up yet is they're waiting for the Switch 2 launch to dual release it with PS5. Also, the 'stagnant' playerbase on PC/Xbox is exactly the reason to reignite the game by putting it on two very popular platforms. I wouldn't be surprised if they use this opportunity to add Halo 5 to the package.
 
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