MAYWEATHER VS. PACQUIAO Official May 2nd

Who will win?

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MVP said:
They were close but just because someone tends to win in dominating fashion doesn't mean their tough fights are losses. That's like saying Mayweather lost his first fight against Castillo. Yeah it was closer than the rest of his fights but nah...
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castillo was prob robed on some sideways ish lol. marquez got robbed in some of those fights.
 
FourMyle said:
manny going to sleep once more

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my fav angle.
 
Beefy said:
So if Mayweather gets knocked out how will GAF/ America react?
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They will wake up, he's been in the ring with people that hit harder than pacquiao. This is going to be light work. This is the first time since Marquez where he's going to be the bigger man in the ring as he is usually outweigh by 15 pounds on fight night. This will be easy for Floyd.
 
After it all ends I hope this pushes EA to make a current-gen Fight Night.

That is all I really want, what I really really want.

And no damned magnet feet!
 
Agent Icebeezy said:
They will wake up, he's been in the ring with people that hit harder than pacquiao. This is going to be light work. This is the first time since Marquez where he's going to be the bigger man in the ring as he is usually outweigh by 15 pounds on fight night. This will be easy for Floyd.
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Floyd is bigger than Pac...

And usually has a weight advantage by not dehydrating. He monetarily pays this advantage as it is a bigger payday for him...
 
Yes!

parasight said:
My cousin's getting married that day. Both families are Filipino. I expect the fight to be playing on a giant projector during the reception.

Would be quite the buzzkill if Pac loses too (which I'm expecting).
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I bet the food will be good. Can I come? ;)
 
kasane said:
well the only thing i actually want from this fight is make it interesting

5 years man

5 fucking years
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Both of them waited over 5 years until they were washed up, old and had declining PPV sales. Both of them never cared about making this fight until they had nothing else left, the outcome of the fight is irrelevant for both fighters' resumes now.
 
I think Floyd will win this one.. Though Pac has a better chance than what most are thinking. Floyd has troubles with southpaws and Pacs left is still lethal. Floyds chin is suspect too. He has never seen a fighter as lively and lethal as Pac. Pac on the other hand will face just about the greatest defensive genius in his life. So hnnnggggg. Dis gon be gud.

I'm curious what kind of gloves they will use. Pac loves those thin/small gloves with horses hair as a padding that can induce cuts to an opponent quick with with FLoyd always goes with the thick heavier gloves to protect his broken hand.

Still got so much hype for this fight. Both fighters lost a step (pac probably two) since this fight started making noise six fuckin years ago. Jesus fuck what took these 2 shit heads so long. Both of these a-holes have probably agreed to jack up the ppv price to $80 bucks too. With bob arum smiling ear to ear. fuck em for that. (sorry for the rant) Will probably watch it in a sports bar or something.
 
smurfx said:
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my fav angle.
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Lordy, that last angle shows about 2 seconds of telegraphing by pac before the requested KO. It looks as if he wanted Marquez to knock him out. From that angle he basically charged JMM without covering his chin. WTF was he trying to do with his feet? lol, look at that shit.
 
MVP said:
Yeah after 4 fights he finally decided to set that trap. It was the plan all along, to lose 3 and a half fights, and then boom, land that counter.]
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There's footage of Marquez knocking down a sparring partner with that exact counter punch...

It wasn't a lucky punch at all. It was a counterpunch made possible by the knowledge of Pac's nuances that Marquez had gained in their previous fights.
 
As someone who's not into boxing can someone tell me why Pacquiao is so highly rated? Is it because he's won so many titles at so many weights? I mean, I look up Mayweather and the dude is undefeated. That's fucking impressive.
 
DeSo said:
As someone who's not into boxing can someone tell me why Pacquiao is so highly rated? Is it because he's won so many titles at so many weights? I mean, I look up Mayweather and the dude is undefeated. That's fucking impressive.
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I wouldn't put so much emphasis on an undefeated record. Many great boxers, who many boxing historians place above Mayweather on the all time great lists, have losses on their record.

Protecting undefeated records is a problem in boxing matchmaking. For the most part, people are trying too hard to protect that 0.
 
Zok310 said:
Lordy, that last angle shows about 2 seconds of telegraphing by pac before the requested KO. It looks as if he wanted Marquez to knock him out. From that angle he basically charged JMM without covering his chin. WTF was he trying to do with his feet? lol, look at that shit.
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I though marquez stepped on mannys foot?
 
Zok310 said:
Lordy, that last angle shows about 2 seconds of telegraphing by pac before the requested KO. It looks as if he wanted Marquez to knock him out. From that angle he basically charged JMM without covering his chin. WTF was he trying to do with his feet? lol, look at that shit.
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The gif is sped up and being a gif it lacks context. In that round Pacquiao had landed some hard shots and had Marquez backing up. The momentum of the fight had swung towards Pacquiao and I believe he thought he had Marquez hurt more than he actually did. Pacquiao heard the warning for the bell and wanted to press the advantage and try to finish the fight. Pacquiao was setting up his step in jab left hook combo and both didn't feint hard enough and rushed in too quickly in his eagerness to land the left hook before the bell and ended up stepping straight in the right hand.

Marquez used that right hand often and Pacquiao knew it but he overestimated how hurt Marquez was and rushed in. While Marquez straight right counter was something he'd been trying to use all night what made it land with that effectiveness was Pacquiao rushing. Since that fight, Pacquiao has become much more reserved and doesn't try to press for the KO the way he used to. Though I don't think he has to worry as much about that in the Mayweather fight as Mayweather's hands have been through hell so he doesn't try to hit people hard anymore to spare his hands from injury.

Despite people saying Marquez set up the right hand I don't think that's actually true. That KO is the result of a number of factors lining up including Marquez eating a lot of leather leading up to that moment. That's not to discredit Marquez as it's a counter he worked on specifically for the fight but had Pacquiao not been landing and leading the momentum up to that point, then Pacquiao doesn't press so eagerly and the right hand more than likely never happens, at the very least not in that round and not in that devastating fashion.
 
Don't know why people are touting a Mayweather KO as a possibility. I could take that dudes punches, haha. In order of probability...

Floyd UD
Dodgy SD/MD to set up the rematch
Manny UD / KO
Floyd KO
 
Mayweather has ducked this fight so much! Now Manny has been KO twice, Floyd is up for it. Honestly it would be so clever if Manny did that on purpose to give Floyd a false sense of security. I guess we shall all see come May :) either way it's going to be an amazing fight!
 
sin2sin said:
Mayweather has ducked this fight so much! Now Manny has been KO twice, Floyd is up for it. Honestly it would be so clever if Manny did that on purpose to give Floyd a false sense of security. I guess we shall all see come May :) either way it's going to be an amazing fight!
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Honestly that's idiotic that you would even play with the belief that Pac allowed his brain to get bashed in just to lure floyd into a fight.
Manny hasn't been "KO twice". The only recent one is when JMM put his ass in a coma. He's been KO'd three times but the first two happened when he was just starting out.
 
sin2sin said:
Mayweather has ducked this fight so much! Now Manny has been KO twice, Floyd is up for it. Honestly it would be so clever if Manny did that on purpose to give Floyd a false sense of security. I guess we shall all see come May :) either way it's going to be an amazing fight!
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Fight could have happened years ago but Manny and his camp were worried about failing the drug test, then Bob Arum was worried of not wringing every last dollar out of Manny before sending him to (likely) lose against Mayweather. Manny also turned down 40 million because they wanted it to be even money.

Floyd pulled his bullshit to, but he wasn't the only one or even the main one responsible for the fight taking so long.
 
Tenebrous said:
Don't know why people are touting a Mayweather KO as a possibility. I could take that dudes punches, haha. In order of probability...

Floyd UD
Dodgy SD/MD to set up the rematch
Manny UD / KO
Floyd KO
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Barring a KO or one of them suffering multiple knockdowns, your option #2 is what's going to happen. We all know this.
 
sin2sin said:
Mayweather has ducked this fight so much! Now Manny has been KO twice, Floyd is up for it. Honestly it would be so clever if Manny did that on purpose to give Floyd a false sense of security. I guess we shall all see come May :) either way it's going to be an amazing fight!
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The usual pre-emptive damage control. If it happened 5 yrs ago Floyd will still dismantle Manny.
 
Super excited for this fight to finally happen.

I strongly dislike Mayweather so here's hoping manny wins it but I can definitely see it going to a dodgy SD for a rematch. Wonder if I can get odds on there being a rematch actually.
 
Vyse The Legend said:
Maybe, but Floyd ducked for a reason. He wasn't as sure of himself back then as you seem to be.
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Fans have more confidence in their fighters than the fighters themselves.

I'm sure Floyd fans had their heart pumping Kool-aid when Corley and Mosley rocked Floyd. Then after he wins, the expected "I wasn't worried about Floyd losing" lol.
 
Zok310 said:
Lordy, that last angle shows about 2 seconds of telegraphing by pac before the requested KO. It looks as if he wanted Marquez to knock him out. From that angle he basically charged JMM without covering his chin. WTF was he trying to do with his feet? lol, look at that shit.
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Hum, the only problem here was that he went in with his chin exposed. Ain't the first time we've seen measure jabs while going forward intending on exploding with either a combination or simply go with the rear hand. It was well done by JMM to pick up on that counter and that's the end of it. His legs don't do a single bad thing here.
 
MANGOD said:
Joke post?
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I don't think it is. Floyd doesn't have power. We all bitched that floFloyd wouldn't fight prime fighters or tough opponents but he's proven otherwise over the last 3-4 yrs for sure. Stood toe to toe w big dudes.

But Floyd has no power to knock out manny. Manny can avg 100+ punches at different angles w power as a southpaw which Floyd will struggle w some.

Floyd either boxes old school like he use to with turtle defense and wins a each decision

Or Manny wins it
 
smurfx said:
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my fav angle.
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What a punch.

My take from an old post in the boxing thread.
Tom_Cody said:
One of the greatest punches in boxing history. There is so much going on in that second. Here is a better gif/video that shows the shot from more angles:
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To start with, it is interesting that Pac is circling to his left. When a left handed fighter circles to his left against a right handed opponent he is essentially challenging that fighter's right hand. This is a counter-intuitive move but it is one of Pac's signatures and he utilized it brilliantly against Bradley in their second fight. He'll normally feint and then jab with his right hand (or throw two jabs) and move subtlety to his left so he can land his strait left, even if his opponent throws a counter right. The idea is to establish an angle where he has enough range to throw his left but his opponent does not have the range to throw his right. He uses the feints and/or jabs to get in the correct position relative to his opponent. Here're where Marquez's mastery comes in.

As soon as he sees Pac's feint he anticipates the 1-2 (jab, straight-left) that will follow and he steps to his own left the second before Pac steps to his left and in the same motion he puts his entire body into a chopping overhand right. This is a counter that was only able to connect because Marquez had so effectively learned Pac's range and timing over the course of the 40 rounds they had spent together in the ring. In order to land the way that it did, he needed to initiate his counter before Pac even threw the jab. Also, when the punch lands, Marquez's fist is even with his own head! Just try to throw a punch like that. He loops it over the top at such and angle that it could only have landed if Pac were exactly in that spot. And, again, he initiated this movement/punch at the moment of Pac's feight before Pac had even threw the first punch of his 2 punch combo. Pac's was going for feint-jab-left and Marquez was able to feint and then throw and land that chopping right because he had Pac's movement and timing down exactly.

One more note: if you look closely at their feet, you will see that Pac actually trips over Marquez's left foot. When Marquez takes that movement to his left, he moves strait into the path Pac's attempted movement. Because of this tangle, Pac is actually falling forward as the exact moment that Marquez's punch connects. This is the reason that it lands with such an impact and Pacquiao was effected like to no other time in his career.

Magical stuff.
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oneHeero said:
I don't think it is. Floyd doesn't have power. We all bitched that floFloyd wouldn't fight prime fighters or tough opponents but he's proven otherwise over the last 3-4 yrs for sure. Stood toe to toe w big dudes.

But Floyd has no power to knock out manny. Manny can avg 100+ punches at different angles w power as a southpaw which Floyd will struggle w some.

Floyd either boxes old school like he use to with turtle defense and wins a each decision

Or Manny wins it
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Floyd may not be a power puncher but to say jmm who is a junior welter has more power is laughable. Only way manny wins this is if he hatton'd Floyd and that to me is a punchers chance. Was it cotto that manny got his last ko? 3 years ago? I like both fighers but my money would be on mayweather. A decision would be the easy choice but i think he'll ko with a counter ala jmm.
 
MANGOD said:
Floyd may not be a power puncher but to say jmm who is a junior welter has more power is laughable. Only way manny wins this is if he hatton'd Floyd and that to me is a punchers chance. Was it cotto that manny got his last ko? 3 years ago? I like both fighers but my money would be on mayweather. A decision would be the easy choice but i think he'll ko with a counter ala jmm.
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JMM is a legit Welter and he was bigger than he's ever been in the last Pacquiao fight. Meanwhile Floyd basically fights at his walk around weight, so he's not particularly powerful for that division to begin with. But then you acknowledge that he's not a power puncher in the first line of this post, which is exactly what that poster was referring to.

The last legitimate KO Floyd had was Hatton, 8 years ago. His hands get hurt pretty easily so he doesn't load up his shots. Manny's been knocked out once over more than a decade, fighting guys who hit much much harder than Floyd does. JMM only accomplished the one punch KO by being bigger than he's ever been before, putting absolutely everything into the punch, AND catching Manny coming forward. Mayweather doing the same thing and getting a one punch KO is the least likely outcome by quite a bit.
 
oneHeero said:
I don't think it is. Floyd doesn't have power. We all bitched that floFloyd wouldn't fight prime fighters or tough opponents but he's proven otherwise over the last 3-4 yrs for sure. Stood toe to toe w big dudes.

But Floyd has no power to knock out manny. Manny can avg 100+ punches at different angles w power as a southpaw which Floyd will struggle w some.

Floyd either boxes old school like he use to with turtle defense and wins a each decision

Or Manny wins it
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At this stage of his career, Manny is good for 40-60 punches a round. And he will definitely be on the low end of that against counterpunching master Floyd Mayweather. Mayweather similarly averages 40-60 punches per round, but Manny trends closer to 60 and Floyd trends closer to 40.

That said, I agree with the general premise that Manny's best chance is to win rounds on activity.

MANGOD said:
Floyd may not be a power puncher but to say jmm who is a junior welter has more power is laughable. Only way manny wins this is if he hatton'd Floyd and that to me is a punchers chance. Was it cotto that manny got his last ko? 3 years ago? I like both fighers but my money would be on mayweather. A decision would be the easy choice but i think he'll ko with a counter ala jmm.
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Agreed regarding Floyd versus JMM. Floyd and Manny are relatively the same size, but Floyd has fought bigger guys at bigger weight classes and with more success. I just don't see Manny hurting Floyd in this fight.

And the Cotto fight (Manny's last KO) was in November 2009. In that fight Cotto was forced to suck down to 145. There isn't a weird catch weight at play here.
 
I'm a little upset still that we are not going to get Cotto vs Canelo because Cotto was holding off for potential mayweather fight.
 
Mayweather's camp has probably been spying on Pac's training for years, waiting for the moment Pac stood no chance. Dude has legit killed boxing, I'm registered and I don't even bother watching anymore.

If Pac manages to somehow pull out the W, I won't know what to do with myself.
 
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