i'm bitter too but i haven't really started complaining because i doubt they're going to go back on patches like they did with the mythoclast.
i'm more upset at the fact the thorn was buffed in the first place because i feel like it's entirely responsible for this hand cannon patch. full teams were running that shit in iron banner and it was cheap.
some of us had the foresight way back and mentioned that the thorn only needed a reload buff. the range, accuracy and DoT were balanced by its low mag; once that changed, it became a sniper.
destiny's too big of a game for forum communites like GAF or reddit to make much of a difference, but i hope more people can convince them to reverse some aspects of this patch. range was never TLW's strong suit; it's the initial accuracy gate that's killing it
FOR REAL. Lost count the amount of times since the patch I fan fire some shot gunner only for my bullets to go flying everywhere, making a quick headshot based kill way more difficult then it used to be. Yeah, I can spread my shots out but the whole point of TLW is the damn fan fire and it's quick TTK from it. Without it you're just using a lower Impact HC with short range and insane recoil.
I tried soft ballistics and it sort of helps but it makes you need one extra bullet for a kill, aka 3 head shots. Ridiculous.
TLW was one of the few weapons that had a really pronounced balance between effectiveness and ease of use. I hope it gets a custom buff.
Agreed. This goes back to PvE and PvP being tied together. Thorn was pretty bad for an exotic in PvE, but most of us thought it was already strong in PvP.
I really hope so too, I don't know which HC this nerf was directed at but I feel like considering how much potential TLW had prepatch to what it's (in)capable of now, I feel like it got hit the hardest. Quick,
accurate, shots are what defined TLW and now that's noticably difficult to pull off with it.
It's 10. It should be 5 imo, just compared to how fast some of the other bounties are for the same XP. And when the IB bounties come around, it seems like a joke
Yeah, now that TLW is nerfed, and Thorn isn't that great for headshots because of its poison, that bounty is extra annoying to do. Have had it sitting at 7/10 for the past few days. I earned a total of two since the patch..
I played a Crucible match last night with TLW and I went on a rampage. I never tried to hit long range targets so I don't care about the range nerf. How much did the first shot accuracy get nerfed? Can't say noticed anything different.
PvP is a bit weird now.
No doubt some matches you can get lucky and go on a tear, I wanted to make sure I wasn't going crazy so I keep returning to it see if maybe I just need to get used to it. I can do good some matches, but it's not
consistent anymore.
I used to be able to reliably slap dudes out to midrange (spacing shots out) with it, 3-4 bullets MAX per kill, and now I can't count on all my shots to not be off the mark and go flying over a enemies head unless I'm slowing my fire to the rate I used on dudes at midrange prepatch.
So, I kind of regret dismantling all three of my Stranger's Rifle now.
Lol, Zoba was right, this thing is awesome. Still salty because of Bungie murdering my fav, but this thing is reliable as hell to win 1v1s. 3 burst kill too. Only downside is the clip is tiny and the fire rate means you won't be killing groups of guys on your tail like certain other guns used to be capable of....