Raise the flame shield: Your "controversial" gaming opinion.

The majority of modern games are violent male power fantasies and it was predictable if not bloody obvious how players would react to criticism of this, especially female criticism.
 
The Sega Master System has more gems than the NES in almost every major genre. I genuinely think that there is no game in the NES in these genres that can compite with the Master System example given:

- Shoot'em Up: R-type
- Adventure-Action RPG: Golvellius
- Adventure-Platformer: Wonder Boy III: The Dragon's Trap
- Strategy: Populous
- Sport: Super Kick Off
- Hack'n'slash: Rastan
- Racing: Super Off Road
- Beat'em up: Streets of Rage II
- Puzzle game: Pacmania

This made for a good laugh!

I mean, Pac-Mania classified as a PUZZLE game?!!
Rastan on the Master System considered to not only be good, but better than games like Ninja Gaiden?
Super Kick Off being better than Ice Hockey, Pro Wrestling, Tecmo Bowl, Blades of Steel, etc...

I've come to the conclusion that you were one of the poor kids that got stuck with a SMS while everyone else had a NES.
 
I came here to post this. Started TLoU this weekend and enjoyed the intro (though that was more like watching a film than playing a game). Then the first "action" sequence is immediate cover-based third person shooting and a mandatory stealth section (pretty much)... I couldn't believe it. This is supposed to be some people's GotG?

I haven't been that underwhelmed in a game since the Deux Ex remake.

Oh yeah... another one... The Deux Ex remake/boot was an underwhelming joke.


Whoa whoa whoa whoa.... there was a Deus Ex remake?
 
1) No game should ever have quicktime events. If I wanted to play a rhythm game, I would play one.
I never want to play one.
It isn't needed. A good game can tell a story through gameplay. A bad game can't. Fact.

2) If your game only has single player, it better be open world. Nine times out of ten, if it is linear, it isn't good enough for the $60. It better be sanboxing like a motherfucker. If your game has multiplayer, it's alright. Fact.

3) Isometric view games are always inferior to a full 3d environments. Picture Civilization with a camera that can actually touch the ground and follow each and every troop on the field. Picture Fire Emblem with that same camera. This would also mean FE would have no transitions between battle scenes and field strategy because it would not be needed. Seamless, immersive gameplay. ALWAYS better. Fact.

Fact: none of those are facts.
 
Vex Kr56399847 said:
3) Isometric view games are always inferior to a full 3d environments. Picture Civilization with a camera that can actually touch the ground and follow each and every troop on the field. Picture Fire Emblem with that same camera. This would also mean FE would have no transitions between battle scenes and field strategy because it would not be needed. Seamless, immersive gameplay. ALWAYS better. Fact.

Go play the original sprite-based Stronghold. Then play Stronghold 3 and report back with your findings.
 
Pokémon is a boring and lazy series that has the potential to improve and offer better game experience but instead relies on reusing the same formula since the first one.
 
Flame shields engaged, please don't hurt me.

  • Pokemon is the same thing every generation; the only game I played that seemed to try anything new was Gale of Darkness
  • Except for 3D World, Super Mario has been subpar since Sunshine. Galaxy and Galaxy 2 were meh, and the NSMB series is a major offender
  • The first two Zelda games were dreadful, and ALttP wasn't too much better
  • Final Fantasy VI was a lackluster experience, and all characters were boring. FFIV is superior in every regard
  • Super Smash Bros. is decent, but not spectacularly amazing
  • Skyward Sword is the best Zelda game
  • Characters like Omochao and Navi aren't as bad as people like to say
  • Water Temple is not as remotely difficult as people make it out to be. Spirit Temple was always more of a challenge for me
  • Mario & Luigi series > Paper Mario series >>>>> Super Mario RPG
  • Persona > SMT
  • BioShock Infinite had a great story, justified ending. The linearity of the gameplay was a bit disappointing considering the two previous games, however.
  • BioShock 2 is the best in the series
  • Team Fortress 2 became utter garbage roughly around the time Dota 2 came out (I don't think that's related; it's just a time frame)
  • Sonic Adventure 2 is the best sanic
  • <Insert word here> Simulator 201X shit is deleterious is needs to stop
 
Shadow of the Colossus is boring and a poor game from a gameplay perspective. I feel like it's given too much slack for its "zOMG it's art!" qualities when climbing, holding a button to not be shaken off, then stabbing a weak point repeatedly got boring by the third Colossus. I don't understand why anyone thinks this game is a "classic".
 
The way people reacted to ME3's ending was fucking ridiculous and it kinda made me believe that gaming needs more time mature before it can completely be taken seriously as other mediums.

People asking for it to be changed and harassing the shit out of the devs (Harassing is putting it nicely) was just terrible to see when it puts such a bad light on the gaming community as a whole. I know movies also kind of have this but not it's not nearly as dominant as it is in the gaming scene.
 
This made for a good laugh!

I mean, Pac-Mania classified as a PUZZLE game?!!
Rastan on the Master System considered to not only be good, but better than games like Ninja Gaiden?
Super Kick Off being better than Ice Hockey, Pro Wrestling, Tecmo Bowl, Blades of Steel, etc...

I've come to the conclusion that you were one of the poor kids that got stuck with a SMS while everyone else had a NES.



:D Love to get reactions!

Yeah, I agree: Pac-Mania definitely is not a puzzle game. It's just that I love it, did that list in a hurry and don't know where exactly to put it... maze game?? Then I correct that:

- Maze game: Pac-Mania

Rastan way better than ANY 8-bit hack'n'slash. Just my opinion. For me, it's just the top. Not sure if Ninja Gaiden belongs exactly to the same genre, but even then I'll put Master System Shinobi ahead of it (I, II and III). And Rastan ahead all of them.

I have to say, even being my opinion, it could be a little unfair. I grew up playing R-Type, Shinobi and Rastan on Arcade. When I played the Master System conversions, I liked them more than the arcade versions. Believe it or not, the 8-bit limitations made just 'clicked' with me. There were some kind of '1-pixel' precission that I LOVED. I've never found that in an Arcade to NES conversion, just find them all... not so good.

I reaffirm that Super Kick Off is the best 8-bit sport game ever made. At least for me, although some reviewers of the time agree. Of the NES games you listed, I just played Ice Hockey and loved Blades of Steel, but it's not at the same level. I'd put it at Great Volleyball, Golfamania, California Games or Speedball II levels. Oh, and I have to say I had a GREAT time playing the Track & Field NES games!

I'm european, in my neighborhood there were more Master System than NES. Anyway, I had several friends with the NES, and they have me, so we spent a lot of time playing with both systems (and almost all others). I just... really only envied that amazing "Journey to Silus" music. Loved a lot of NES games (Super Mario Bros III, Blades of Steel, Yoshi's cookie, Track & Field, Dragon Warrior III, Crystalis, Castlevania III, Life Force, MegaMan 3, RC Pro AM, River City Ransom...), loved the system, but at the end of the day I returned to my home, turned on the Master System, and just smiled playing WonderBoy III or Super Kick Off or Sonic. It was just... another thing.

I've come to the conclusion that you were one of the kids that got stuck with a NES while everyone else had a NES too.
 
Half of the opinions here are about The Last of Us xD
Pokémon is a boring and lazy series that has the potential to improve and offer better game experience but instead relies on reusing the same formula since the first one.
I love it solely because of the Pokémon themselves. Or at least I used to, before the shitty Generation VI. The games are bleh.
 
Here's my counter controversial opinion: No matter how long people sing its praises, I will never look at a keyboard as an input format for video games.

Yes, I'm fully aware there are some games that flat out cannot be played with a controller. I will never play those games.

While I can deal with playing games on a mouse+keyboard setup when it's clearly the superior option, I kinda agree with this still. Breaking my fingers reaching out to buttons around WASD is only rarely worth the added comfort of mouse aiming.
 
Either most games suck and are too 'samey' these days, or the appeal of gaming wears off the older we get. I seem to read about gaming more than play these days, and enjoy the promise of what games might be rather than the finished product I finally play.
 
What does this even mean?

I assume it means Microsoft and Sony platforms attract the kind of crap the poster is not interested in. I can relate to that. In all these years the only stuff I ever felt like playing on PlayStation is Catherine, Symphony of the Night and Dark Souls. Maybe Parappa the Rapper too. On the other side of the fence (Microsoft) I will say there exists no software that could ever convince me to buy an Xbox.
 
The quality of Ken Levine's games follow a similar graph to M. Night Shyamalan's films.
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Locking the PS4's online multiplayer behind PS+ I feel was a bad decision, even in light of the Xbone DRM fiasco that was going on at the time.

Takashi Iizuka is largely responsible for ruining the Sonic series / Sonic Team and honestly should had been demoted / given his pink slip a long time ago. On that note, I sometimes feel the series should had never been rebooted / revamped through the Adventure series and the "Classic" design and aesthetics should had been left as is.

The PS1 Hasbro Frogger is a flawed but extremely fun game, and I think with some changes to the game structure and additional polish could had been a great puzzle-platformer.

...those are the closest things I can think of that can be considered a "controversial opinion". Other opinions I have I would largely chalk up to the games not appealing to me or different strokes for different folks.
 
The way people reacted to ME3's ending was fucking ridiculous and it kinda made me believe that gaming needs more time mature before it can completely be taken seriously as other mediums.

People asking for it to be changed and harassing the shit out of the devs (Harassing is putting it nicely) was just terrible to see when it puts such a bad light on the gaming community as a whole. I know movies also kind of have this but not it's not nearly as dominant as it is in the gaming scene.

I agree with this. If games are art, part of that is accepting the vision of the artist/s. Don't like it? So what? Go and make your own game then.
 
I love dropping a new opinion whenever I see this thread hit the front page.

I've got a new one:

If Nintendo, Microsoft, Sony, Activision/Blizzard, Valve, EA, Take Two, Namco Bandai and Ubisoft all simultaneously shut down, thus resulting in the complete stagnation (ie. There would never be anything new EVER) of all their combined hardware, digital platforms, services, and all of their respective gaming franchises, the future of the gaming industry would be infinitely brighter.
 
I love dropping a new opinion whenever I see this thread hit the front page.

I've got a new one:

If Nintendo, Microsoft, Sony, Activision/Blizzard, Valve, EA, Take Two, Namco Bandai and Ubisoft all simultaneously shut down, thus resulting in the complete stagnation (ie. There would never be anything new EVER) of all their combined hardware, digital platforms, services, and all of their respective gaming franchises, the future of the gaming industry would be infinitely brighter.

I don't agree that the dissolution of Steam would make the gaming industry brighter. It could be argued that Steam is what's keeping PC gaming going.
 
Shadow of the Colossus is boring and a poor game from a gameplay perspective. I feel like it's given too much slack for its "zOMG it's art!" qualities when climbing, holding a button to not be shaken off, then stabbing a weak point repeatedly got boring by the third Colossus. I don't understand why anyone thinks this game is a "classic".

I agree. Shadow of the Colossus is way overrated.


Hotline Miami has the best soundtrack in the indie game industry.

This isn't really that controversial...?
 
I love dropping a new opinion whenever I see this thread hit the front page.

I've got a new one:

If Nintendo, Microsoft, Sony, Activision/Blizzard, Valve, EA, Take Two, Namco Bandai and Ubisoft all simultaneously shut down, thus resulting in the complete stagnation (ie. There would never be anything new EVER) of all their combined hardware, digital platforms, services, and all of their respective gaming franchises, the future of the gaming industry would be infinitely brighter.

A Capcom fan huh
 
A Capcom fan huh

Not really, I would probably throw them and Square into that grouping as well. My opinion is just a more controversial way of saying that there's more innovation and interesting games coming from smaller companies than larger ones, coupled with my opinion that the output from the biggest publishers/platform holders have been very disappointing over the past couple of years.
 
I think that Battlefield Hardline is the best Battlefield game since Bad Company 2.

Jak II is poorly paced and designed and is the worst of the three games in the Jak and Daxter trilogy.
 
I don't think framerate is a big deal, and have happily played many games at 20 (or less) fps from start to finish without even really thinking about it.

Truth be told I picked up DMC DE and didn't notice the fps difference. Same with Tomb Raider DE on PS4, after going back and playing the 360 version.
 
I don't think framerate is a big deal, and have happily played many games at 20 (or less) fps from start to finish without even really thinking about it.

I'm not sure I'd go as low as 20 but for me for anything but twitchy multi-player fps games like CoD 30fps is fine.

I switched between 30 and 60 on Last of Us remastered and while I noticed a difference I found in negligible enough that I cannot fathom people who say "They can't play 30fps"
 
Skyrim is shit.

The combat feels terrible, traversal is boring, NPC's are extremely anoying, models look awful, the story is completely bland and it runs like garbage, bugs, glitches, screen tearing, low frame rate, crashes, etc (Bethesda's trademark for console gaming). It's a big world full of nothing.

Oh, and you can be a stealth ninja and still use heavy armor.

Terrible, TERRIBLE, game. Overrated to unimaginable heights.
 
Games are not art and no one is obliged to accept whatever weird or creepy vision some ""artists"" have.

I get the feeling you're talking about something completely different than that guy. Also, games not being "art" qualifies as a controversial opinion, so props for that.

Wha'ts with all the hype about jrpgs goddammit ?

Calm your tits. J-RPGs are (or used to be) great.

Skyrim is shit.

The combat feels terrible, traversal is boring, NPC's are extremely anoying, models look awful, the story is completely bland and it runs like garbage, bugs, glitches, screen tearing, low frame rate, crashes, etc (Bethesda's trademark for console gaming). It's a big world full of nothing.

Oh, and you can be a stealth ninja and still use heavy armor.

Terrible, TERRIBLE, game. Overrated to unimaginable heights.

This isn't controversial at all. You sound like a large percentage of cRPG fans.
 
Competitive multiplayer games should not have progression systems that give veteran players advantages over newer players

Almost every non-Valve game seems to be doing this these days
 
I agree with this. If games are art, part of that is accepting the vision of the artist/s. Don't like it? So what? Go and make your own game then.

There is a difference between "well, that's just the artists vision" and blatantly lying in the faces of your fanbase about an ending to the trilogy, which is not going to happen.
 
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