Kurt Angle
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Dark Knight Rises v Man of Steel (Which one sucked more?)
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pixelation
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Man of Steel was the suckiest one.
These are the only two fight scenes in either film that can be fairly compared, due to the differences in power levels at play between the two. And even then, MoS does it better:
Zod vs. Jor El
http://youtu.be/tDFu9ZZjVqg
Bane vs Batman (final battle)
http://youtu.be/VjnJdbxAMEs
Zod vs. Jor El
http://youtu.be/tDFu9ZZjVqg
Bane vs Batman (final battle)
http://youtu.be/VjnJdbxAMEs
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All I see is a bunch of CGI.
Man of Steel was so fucking horrid. I mean, good lord, what was going on with that writing?
TDKR is pretty fun, just not even close to the other two NolanBats.
Thor 2 is really boring. I guess the Loki scene is good but that's a really forgettable one. Surprisingly enough I really liked the first Thor, for the most part.
Frankly, I think I'm just sick of this superhero thing in general. I think MoS finally closed the lid on that one for me.
TDKR is pretty fun, just not even close to the other two NolanBats.
Thor 2 is really boring. I guess the Loki scene is good but that's a really forgettable one. Surprisingly enough I really liked the first Thor, for the most part.
Frankly, I think I'm just sick of this superhero thing in general. I think MoS finally closed the lid on that one for me.
Gordon Shumway
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I'd say Man of Steel was better..only problem for me was that the only characters I found interesting were Zod and Jor-El.
Monocle
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At least Thor 2 didn't betray its own characters and show its whole world through a weird disaffected lens. It wasn't a great movie but it was plenty entertaining, with fun sequences and some really great performances. Loki stole the show. And that Captain America cameo was one of the best scenes in any Marvel movie.
Thor 2 is honestly a more enjoyable popcorn flick than either of the movies this topic is actually about.
Thor 2 is honestly a more enjoyable popcorn flick than either of the movies this topic is actually about.
Wreck-It Ralph
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I honestly enjoyed both movies.
Thor is my favorite superhero, and I actually really enjoy Thor 1, but even I agree with this. I saw it several times as I do most Marvel movies, and all I really remember about it are Captain America's amazing cameo and Loki's "Tada!"
Something like Amazing Spider-Man 2 was actually probably worse, but even then, at least that movie was memorably terrible. Thor 2 was just forgettable.
Thor is my favorite superhero, and I actually really enjoy Thor 1, but even I agree with this. I saw it several times as I do most Marvel movies, and all I really remember about it are Captain America's amazing cameo and Loki's "Tada!"
Something like Amazing Spider-Man 2 was actually probably worse, but even then, at least that movie was memorably terrible. Thor 2 was just forgettable.
ThoseDeafMutes
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Urge to destroy humanity rising
...WTF? Do we visit the same site?
Anyway, I don't understand how people can call Thor 2 the worst recent superhero film when the corporate abortion that is The Amazing Spider-Man 2 exists.
IMO both were well above average for comic book movies, but Man of Steel had worse storytelling issues. Its problems were structural and thematic, whereas TDKR just had small issues like odd dialogue and strange plotholes that you notice the week after. Nolan captures the audience's interest throughout the entire movie, but Snyder couldn't do the same at all. I could easily describe the plot of TDKR, listing every character by name. There's no way I could do that with Man of Steel. Its action scenes were cool, but seemed to do nothing other than show action. As silly as TDKR could be, every scene had a very clear narrative purpose.
Thor 2 was pretty bad, though. It wasn't even fun at parts, and the story really dragged. The LotR imitation was kind of embarrassing, and the plot was a mess. Everything about it screamed "There is another Avengers movie coming out in the near future!"
Thor 2 was pretty bad, though. It wasn't even fun at parts, and the story really dragged. The LotR imitation was kind of embarrassing, and the plot was a mess. Everything about it screamed "There is another Avengers movie coming out in the near future!"
Ehhhh, its climax was more like a Doctor Who tame finale episode with a way bigger budget (made funnier by the fact that Eccleston was in it). Didn't feel grand at all.
On the other hand, MoS did wwaaaaay too much of the exact opposite, especially for a first movie. The levels of destruction porn and casualties they went to in that film should've been saved for a sequel.
Raitosaito
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Nolan needs a 2nd unit director yo.
Action so bad it hurts
Action so bad it hurts
Fox Mulder
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MoS just sucked. Guardians of the Galaxy was surprisingly fun for something I've never even heard of until the film. Winter Soldier was better than the avengers.
Marvel might be pushing it a bit with all their upcoming releases though.
roflwaffles
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Really? I thought Begins was almost universally enjoyed.
Ah, Guardians was good - forgot about that one. Definitely different than the other films of that ilk.
There was a DC vs Marvel poll not long ago and it was 40% to 60%
Not when it came out. The reaction was mixed and I wasn't really high on it either because the movie betrayed my initial expectations.
SpoonyBard
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Man of Steel was worse. Maybe Rises felt worse, because you usually expect Batman movies to be decent, but with Superman movies you have lowered exceptions already. And Thor 2 would have been so much better without all those SciFi elements.
Zeyphersan
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Why is Thor 2 on the poll when Amazing Spider-Man 2 is clearly worse. Thor 2 is boring, ASM2 is offensively bad. Not just to comic movies, but to movies as an art form
MoS is the worst, though. Maybe not worse than ASM2, but definitely worse than TDKR/Thor 2
Plus I thought Thor 2 was still better than Thor 1, so *shrug*
MoS is the worst, though. Maybe not worse than ASM2, but definitely worse than TDKR/Thor 2
Plus I thought Thor 2 was still better than Thor 1, so *shrug*
The hate for the Amazing Spider-Man movies has always baffled me. Besides the standard corporate meddling they're by far the best live action Spidey we've ever had. The car thief scene alone is better than 2 and 3.
The DC crowd is often, though not always, antagonistic and defensive. There's more Marvel fans on the board overall for sure though. DC films outside of the Nolan trilogy get shit on a lot by everyone, so those fans feel they're most persecuted. Lots of people take cheap shots when unnecessary, Marvel fans and casual comicbook movie fans alike. I think a lot of the people who tend to lean DC and dislike large parts of the MCU subconsciously feel they have to be extra loud in order to compensate for their fewer numbers and persecuted mentality.
Zeyphersan
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Disagree heavily. I don't hate ASM1, just the second. It has the best on-screen interpretation of Spider-Man as a character yet, but everything surrounding it might actually be literal garbage
Plus the Doc Ock train fight in 2 and the opening Harry/Peter fight in 3 blow everything in ASM1/2 out of the water
Edit: Except maybe the fight in the school in ASM1. That was fun.
Nappuccino
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All I see is a bunch of CGI.
That 7/11 was really there.
HoodWinked
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Theres a big difference between the marvel and dc movies.
marvel studio movies all are fairly consistent where there are no highs or lows it just consistently above average so you get a film with less things to nitpick but the movie just ends up feeling a bit formulaic and something they made for the lowest common denominator.
MoS has some flaws which are easy to shit on mostly screenplay/david goyer but the highs like the intro on krypton, and snyder's ability to show action so visceral and in a grand scale is unmatched.
but if we are talking worst comic book movies its ASM2
marvel studio movies all are fairly consistent where there are no highs or lows it just consistently above average so you get a film with less things to nitpick but the movie just ends up feeling a bit formulaic and something they made for the lowest common denominator.
MoS has some flaws which are easy to shit on mostly screenplay/david goyer but the highs like the intro on krypton, and snyder's ability to show action so visceral and in a grand scale is unmatched.
but if we are talking worst comic book movies its ASM2
The first ASM film was by all means fine. Didn't feel refreshing in regards to narrative, but it was still pretty straightforward and I ended up loving the cast a lot more than I though I would.
The second one though? Good lord, almost all the technical and creative faults I found with it could be said the same for Transformers 2, and the only reason I haven't seen it as stooping that low was because again, the performances, and that it didn't have any insanely immature toilet humor TF2 had.
Agree to disagree. The train fight got retro actively downgraded by the end scene, where doc has a change of heart, killing the stakes. Not to mention his poor motivations and inability to understand why Pete turns up when he's looking for Spider-Man.
The way ASM moves is the best we've ever gotten. Even the chase scene in the beginning of ASM2 is better than a good portion of 1.You have to admit Garfield crushes it as Spidey.
There are some plot holes, but I loved Jamie Foxx and Dehaan so much. Especially loved his love of Spidey and Spidey playing on that. Again Garfield is the sole reason any of it worked. And Emma said she signed up to die, so it was really cool seeing them do it.
Say what you will about its plot, but lazy is out of the question.
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My thoughts exactly. MoS wins easily. Man just looking at that Batman gif makes me cringe at the combat..
Agree to disagree. Maguire portrays Parker as a shy awkward geek, like he's supposed to be. Garfield's skater-hipster-douche is as far removed from who Parker is as I can possibly imagine.
Zeyphersan
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I did admit that. I said that's the only good thing about that movie
Pretty much. The second movie should be studied in how not to make a major motion picture. It got almost everything wrong
roflwaffles
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All I see is a bunch of CGI.
Surprise, a scene with a godlike being in action involves CGI.
brickarts295
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Neither, both had their ups and down but I was entertained by both films. I'm just glad I got too see Batman, Superman and Thor on the big screen and definitely ready for more superhero films. This is the golden age of superhero films, enjoy it while you still can.
You might be projecting that. He plays an outsider, just because he's good looking means nothing. Shy nerd is cool now, so not like it's any less relatable than coming from a messed up background that makes it hard for you to interface with others. And comic Spidey is anything but shy, makes Johnny jealous.
Daffy Duck
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ASM2 is awful, the most disjointed movie I have ever watched, it just feels like nothing is holder my it together.on topic I like both TDKR and MoS.
Comic Spidey isn't shy cause he's been spider-man for decades now. If the movies insist on having an origin story every damn time (which I fucking hate but thats a whole other issue entirely) they need to start PArker as shy and awkward and then have him GROW INTO the the wise-cracking spidey we know.
Character Development. Something BOTH the new and Rami franchises sorely lacked.
The Dutch Slayer
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I'm in the minority but I love TDKR yeah its not AS good as TDK but few movies are.
Team Filler
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That's a rich statement, considering the amount of threadshitting that happens in the DCCU threads here.
I enjoyed Man Of Steel and enjoyed TDKR.
That being said, both had way more potential than they showed and were held back by laziness. I think TDKR is the better movie since not only does it have the better villain who actually feels like a true menace but also because the overall plot had less holes than MoS - yeah, less holes, because there are bunch of them in TDKR as well.
Still glad they both exist and expecting perfection from every movie is dumb. Looking forward to Bats vs Supes.
That being said, both had way more potential than they showed and were held back by laziness. I think TDKR is the better movie since not only does it have the better villain who actually feels like a true menace but also because the overall plot had less holes than MoS - yeah, less holes, because there are bunch of them in TDKR as well.
Still glad they both exist and expecting perfection from every movie is dumb. Looking forward to Bats vs Supes.
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