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Avengers: Age of Ultron |Spoiler Thread| Thanos Dies in This
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Scarlet Witch did more damage to the Avengers than Ultron. Ultron seemed weaker than everyone.
Scarlet Witch is a reality warper who caused House of M to happen.
Shes fucking OP as shit.
Did she really? She didn't really damage them, just force them to confront their fears which sidelined them. She did unleash the Hulk so I give you that.
I honestly think the twins were kinda' weak overall. With Scarlet Witch being a little bit better. I get the feeling that Magneto was meant to be the big bad but Marvel had to scrap it because they couldn't work something out with Fox.
I seriously doubt that that was ever the case.
Ya' never know. Maybe Marvel wanted to work out a deal with Fox to use Magneto? It could happen.
SCULLIBUNDO
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But didn't. Marvel really doesn't seem to be in a cooperative mindset with Fox when they're tanking all the comic properties of their own that Fox has film rights to.
It's incredibly petty, but then Fox owns one of the biggest moneymaker properties Marvel has in X-Men and are never going to give it back since they're killing it unlike Sony.
Ultron even outright said that. Can't quote it, but basicly, Quicksilver and Ultron can harm them, but only Scarlet Witch can defeat them.
I wonder if that will make the movie more popular?
In Germany the Captain Ameica movies were the least successful ones.
(except Hulk)
I want to have it in my hands, now
pel1300
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Ultron even outright said that. Can't quote it, but basicly, Quicksilver and Ultron can harm them, but only Scarlet Witch can defeat them.
I wonder if that will make the movie more popular?
In Germany the Captain Ameica movies were the least successful ones.
(except Hulk)
I want to have it in my hands, now
Why are Germans so anti-american? Even more so than British/Australians/Canadians. It's something I noticed in the backpacking circuit.
Depends on your interpretation.
Due to the lopsided agreements with Sony/Fox, it makes financial sense for Marvel to devote resources to IPs that are more monetizable, hence the character creation efforts to be focused on Marvel Universe rather than X-Men.
If they self-destructively want to tank their own X-Men IP, they just get Frank Miller to write it.
Marvel pulled an Iron Man 3 with this movies marketing. As a non-comic book reader I find it funny how much contempt Marvel seems to have for their hardcore fan's. Marvels like we know you guys want a serious movie but you'll see it anyway and we want our mainline MCU movies to be family friendly.
As a whole the movie was forgettable. Ultron seems to have taken a page from Family guy for his joke delivery. Ultron's Megatron design was terrible. The amount of nerfing they have to pull so everyone can play together really eliminates all the tension. I was much more afraid of Cap dying from a bullet of hydra agents in TWS then an army of Ultron drones. I'm trying to think of things I liked but the memory of this movie is fading away as I write this.
As a whole the movie was forgettable. Ultron seems to have taken a page from Family guy for his joke delivery. Ultron's Megatron design was terrible. The amount of nerfing they have to pull so everyone can play together really eliminates all the tension. I was much more afraid of Cap dying from a bullet of hydra agents in TWS then an army of Ultron drones. I'm trying to think of things I liked but the memory of this movie is fading away as I write this.
I thought they wouldn't have liked them because the antagonists in both captain america movies were nazis/neo-nazis
Only mid credits.
Black_Stride
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Actually the complete opposite is being setup.
During Civil War, Hulk is supposed to be in space with the Planet Hulk storyline running pretty much concurrently.
In the MCU the excuse for no Hulk during Civil War is that he went into self imposed exile......they deliberately dodge the Planet Hulk and World War Hulk storyline.
I was really curious how they would handle Hulk during Civil War, after watching Age of Ultron i see how they will have Hulk be quiet for further movies.
Shame really I would have liked to see more Hulk sooner rather than later...but he isnt even getting a Solo movie, and probably wont feature in anything till Avengers Infinity War.
Me too, I thought the whole time i was watching the movie i was hoping Tonys plan was gonna be to override the boosters and have them just send the town into space and bruce was a sacrifice.
RadioHammer500
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so what im getting from the impressions..and hopefully this is exaggeration, but
Whedon ruined Ultron?
Whedon ruined Ultron?
Not caring about a american comicbook figure does not equal antiamericanism, obviously. Its fairly obvious why a guy explicitly fighting for America/representing America has less pull outside America.
Lol no.
James Spader elevated Ultron from a Brainiac expy to interesting character for me. But I admit I'm very biased.
Yeah in retrospect it was a gross over-simplification on my part.
His characterization was fine, the problem was he accomplished nothing.
He's a snarky, smart ass, quippy robot. Very disappointing to me.
In the film it is mentioned how he has all of humanity's knowledge and information, and the best plan he can come up with is lift a piece of land into the sky and drop it like a meteor. He could access all these networks and create robots all over the world. I think he should've spread his terror in many different places at the same time to disperse the Avengers. It's just so disappointing to think about what could have been.
pel1300
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I wasn't just referring to CA. I was talking about how in general, Germans seem to be pretty anti-american. As I said I noticed this in the BACKPACKING circuit. They are very vocal about their distaste for things American, more so than other nationalities.
block tower
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I had to leave the film early. What were the post credit scenes? Anything worthwhile? I enjoyed the cameos marvel characters had in AoU, especially war machine and agent carter.
Banjotanooki
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Thanos picking up the infinity gauntlet.
block tower
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Ah so nothing good. Thanks!
RadioHammer500
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does Tony ever hint about registration near the end of this movie? leading to Civil War?
It was hilarious how Banner was all "no no no we can't do the whole AI thing again tony no no no it is an evil idea no no no OK I AM ON BOARD". Reminds me of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBw02xJkkJM&feature=youtu.be&t=417
Not exactly the best written part.
Also hilarious, Thor going to drink the ultra holy water like Goku, and then Frankesteining Vision to life.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBw02xJkkJM&feature=youtu.be&t=417
Not exactly the best written part.
Also hilarious, Thor going to drink the ultra holy water like Goku, and then Frankesteining Vision to life.
longdi
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Anyone thinks we will be seeing something like this: "everything wrong with A2" once the BR is out?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H53183mVc2o
one too many coincidences, just because..
wasted Ultron, weak end of world plan
would it be better screening Antman before AoU? Loki had a full movie to develop while Ultron just appeared after Tony calls him out.
did Cap/Tony make up in the end?
messed up power levels
teasing Thanos again, for nothing. GoTG had more Thanos development.
is Marvel showing signs of strain as they expands the MCU on the big screens? Not all have watched their TV series...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H53183mVc2o
one too many coincidences, just because..
wasted Ultron, weak end of world plan
would it be better screening Antman before AoU? Loki had a full movie to develop while Ultron just appeared after Tony calls him out.
did Cap/Tony make up in the end?
messed up power levels
teasing Thanos again, for nothing. GoTG had more Thanos development.
is Marvel showing signs of strain as they expands the MCU on the big screens? Not all have watched their TV series...
peanutbutterlatte
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Making a really enjoyable sequel. Or were you being facetious.Well, saw it.
Joss, what you doin'
Noisepurge
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Nope
was thinking that if they would have destroyed the meteorcity and everyone in it, that could have been the incident in the MCU that started the registration act.But now it's all roses and happiness as apparently zero civilians died?
Dirtyshubb
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Ffinally saw it yesterday, loved it and would say overall it was better than the first avengers film by quite a bit.
Movie was funny, but also had a lot of dark moments that helped not only bring them together to defeat Ultron but also plant the seeds for civil war.
I would say the only 'negative' was that Ultron was a lot more humorous and crazy compared to the marketing but I think it was better for the character to be an almost crazy and evil version of Tony since he was basically his dad so I still enjoyed him.
Also I really enjoyed his plan on taking out mankind, creating his own asteroid was unique and a really cool way to show how the team priorities saving humans and sacrificing themselves in the process.
Hulk buster right was fantastic, some great moments and some real clever ones to with how Tony had developed the suit to counter possible attacks plus replacing parts on the fly since there was no way he couldn't avoid damage.
Vision was handled amazingly, when he casually handed thor mjolnir the entire audience grasped when it clicked on the significance of the action, that was an amazing way to show that not only was he trustworthy but also something special. Also I loved the characters joking about it afterwards, especially the lift analogy from cap.
Finally the thanos clip was not only great, seeing him finally decide to take shit into his own hands but as soon as he had said his line, someone in the audience shouted "BEEAAAAAAASSSSST! Which made everyone laugh.
Sad to see gag being negative bit I can't say I'm surprised since it was bound to happen with a film as anticipated as this.
Movie was funny, but also had a lot of dark moments that helped not only bring them together to defeat Ultron but also plant the seeds for civil war.
I would say the only 'negative' was that Ultron was a lot more humorous and crazy compared to the marketing but I think it was better for the character to be an almost crazy and evil version of Tony since he was basically his dad so I still enjoyed him.
Also I really enjoyed his plan on taking out mankind, creating his own asteroid was unique and a really cool way to show how the team priorities saving humans and sacrificing themselves in the process.
Hulk buster right was fantastic, some great moments and some real clever ones to with how Tony had developed the suit to counter possible attacks plus replacing parts on the fly since there was no way he couldn't avoid damage.
Vision was handled amazingly, when he casually handed thor mjolnir the entire audience grasped when it clicked on the significance of the action, that was an amazing way to show that not only was he trustworthy but also something special. Also I loved the characters joking about it afterwards, especially the lift analogy from cap.
Finally the thanos clip was not only great, seeing him finally decide to take shit into his own hands but as soon as he had said his line, someone in the audience shouted "BEEAAAAAAASSSSST! Which made everyone laugh.
Sad to see gag being negative bit I can't say I'm surprised since it was bound to happen with a film as anticipated as this.
Angry Fork
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Why did Stark retire? Does this happen in the comics? Does Hulk retire and come back in the comics or is this just a thing for the movies?
8BitsAtATime
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Yeah it was enjoyable but also a complete waste of time. Like someone said before...releasing the list of the Phase 3 movies hurts this one a ton.
peanutbutterlatte
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Iron Man doesn't completely retire, but he takes a back seat and focuses more on the politics/business side of things for a while. Even becomes head of SHIELD at one point.
Hulk actually gets blasted off into space by the Illumanati (Dr. Strange, Black Panther, Professor X, Iron Man, and Namor) after causing a lot of collateral damage. He spends some time away on a gladiator planet, but finds a way to return to Earth and turns New York into his own arena, punishing those that sent him away. Doesn't look like they're going that way in the films mind.
If you enjoyed it, it wasn't a waste of time. I agree I was looking forward to Phase 3 MCU movies more, but it's still a really good movie.
I don't get why Ultron didn't straight up kill Black Widow when she was in custody. Maybe he was trying to lure the Avengers into a trap, but damn they would have come no matter what. And if they didn't then mission accomplished since he will have successfully summoned meteor.
Also I don't get why Thanos suddenly decided to wield the gauntlet. Does he automatically know when an infinity stone is revealed? Why does he care that Ultron is defeated? He has zero stones, you'd think he would get on that.
Also I don't get why Thanos suddenly decided to wield the gauntlet. Does he automatically know when an infinity stone is revealed? Why does he care that Ultron is defeated? He has zero stones, you'd think he would get on that.
The underlying creation of Ultron with Stark just deciding to create this AI with the help of something he just found within 30 seconds was a big problem I had with the movie.
It just felt like a incredibly cheap leap to make.
peanutbutterlatte
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Real BW answer: Because Scarlett Johansen's character is incredibly popular and they're not going to kill her off
"In universe" answer: I don't think Ultron cares about destroying the Avengers individually. He'd rather play games with them, and he's convinced his city-lifting plan will succeed, so they'll all die anyway.
And as for Thanos... he clearly prefers to play puppet-master.
I think they gave him justification with the vision SW gave him.
Secret Fawful
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So what I'm hearing in this topic is that Whedon basically saw the comic where Ultron is hanging out in a bar listening to the blues trying to "FEEL, MAN, FEEL", and decided to make an entire movie based on that Ultron. I see no problem with this. At least he's not another generic scary robot villain.
Angry Fork
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Is the Natasha/Banner romance a thing in the comics?
And do you mind telling the names/issues of the comics where the Illuminati sends off Hulk (and when he comes back)? Interested in reading that.
Yeah this was my main worry going into the movie.
He basically is. His overall goal is to kill all humans. Yes he and Bender had the same story arc at one point. I liked the idea that he constantly changes his body and that he doesn't die until all his minions are dead, but outside of that he just wants to blow up the world. At least Loki wanted to be God-Emperor Supreme of Earth, which is a more understandable and interesting goal.
I don't see why people are mad that Hulkbuster more or less won that fight. Hulk needed to be taken down a peg anyways. Plus Hulk would have won if Stark didn't have replacement parts.
peanutbutterlatte
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No, that's a creation of the movies. Though Natasha has relationships with everybody from Cap, to Iron Man, to Hawkeye in the comics. Pretty much everybody else.
And it's part of the Civil War arc, I'll look for the specific issues... Incredible Hulk 88-91 apparently. But there's also New Avengers: Illuminati Special No. 1, which is the group discussing what to do with Hulk.
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