Wreck-It Ralph
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It's almost like people have different opinions about things.
Also I don't see how Iron Man 3 can illustrate all the issues you have with the MCU when it's so wildly different in tone and style from everything else in the MCU.
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It's almost like people have different opinions about things.
Also I don't see how Iron Man 3 can illustrate all the issues you have with the MCU when it's so wildly different in tone and style from everything else in the MCU.
Nemesis121
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I didn't like this movie, the villain is weak sauce, the Hulk vs Buster was fun scene, the final battle was shit, and
Quicksilver dies for the shitty Avenger, die saving Stark, not him..
I had those same issues.
That at I couldn't stand seeing Natasha and Banner. Felt so unnatural and she just had this weird slutty vibe. Now I know why Renner and Evans made
The IMAX treatment itself was great. Everything looked very crisp. If I had the option to see it in IMAX not 3D, that would be worth it.
It was worth it, movie looked and sounded fantastic. Added bonus of Superman vs Batman and Star Wars trailers on the IMAX screen.
I'd god with IMAX too. I went and saw a 3d and didn't notice one thing during the movie.
Zeyphersan
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You know, I was going to comment that calling a movie like Iron Man 3 "trash" is ignoring what trash-level movies are actually like, before I remembered that in a text I told a friend that Amazing Spider-Man 2 might be a film literally made out of pure, tangible garbage
I don't feel like being a hypocrite at the moment, so carry on
Jigolo
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Finding out if a friend likes iron man 3 is the best way to tell if they a movie lover... or they are only there to see comics move
Iron man 3 is best mcu other than winter
Edit :I forgot about guardians... okay im3 is third best
RadioHammer500
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the reviews for this movie according to IMDB have been pretty mixed...much more so then the ot thread
I would say that's more indicative of your tastes than the quality of the film.
RadioHammer500
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i don't know if anyone has the same feeling
but i feel like these marvel movies are becoming more about "setting up the future movies" then focusing on the movie itself
i guess the MCU, despite all its perks, has it's problems when you always have 1 continuous universe
but i feel like these marvel movies are becoming more about "setting up the future movies" then focusing on the movie itself
i guess the MCU, despite all its perks, has it's problems when you always have 1 continuous universe
Me and my wife just got back from the theater, and I really enjoyed the movie a lot. I think it's a better movie than the first in many ways, and not better in some ways.
Here are my NON SPOILER impressions:
Positives:
- Hawkeye! It was great seeing Clint get more fleshed out, and have a personality that was much more in line with comic book Hawkeye (a bit of a smartass, self deprecating sometimes, but still cocky). He had some great stuff to work with in this movie, so I'm sure Renner was pleased.
- Arrogant Thor! I love arrogant, sometimes clueless Thor, and he was back.
- Ultron! I thought Spader did a great job of being Ultron. I didn't find him a "weak Marvel villain" in the slightest. He had clear motivations and a plan, and was menacing, but also humorous and snarky, very much a "child" of Tony Stark. Speaking of...
- Not an Iron Man movie! I've always felt that Robert Downey Jr, as much as I love him, tends to take over the movies he's in, especially the first Avengers, which still felt like it was about Tony. This movie felt a lot more balanced in that regard. The film was just as much about Black Widow, Hulk, and Hawkeye than it was about Tony and Ultron. Considering that those three don't get their own solo flicks, this was a smart way to give us some depth with them in the context of the whole movie's main plot about Ultron.
- Vision! Hands down my favorite part of the movie. I wish there was more with him, as he is an intriguing character, and they did a great job bringing him to the big screen. He looks fantastic in live action, and has one of my favorite moments.
- Scarlett Witch! I wasn't sure how good Elizabeth Olsen would be in the movie, but I thought she did a great job, and her character was handled well. Quicksilver is also pretty good, but not as impressive as Scarlett Witch.
Negatives:
- Weird editing. I'm not talking about the action scenes, which I felt were actually really well done, with the exception of a few moments. but the scene transitions in some parts of the movie were very jarring. It really does feel like they had to cut a LOT of content, and entire scenes to make their intended run time. Personally, I wouldn't have minded a 2:45-3 hour long movie. It needed some of those bridge scenes that tied events together. Because of the editing, some portions of the movie felt like a bunch of scenes just stapled together. This wasn't throughout the whole movie, just a few transitions where you totally felt like a reel was missing.
- Black Widow/Hulk/Banner "romance." It just fell flat. Ruffalo and Johansson don't really have any chemistry in that way. I actually think she has better rapport with Chris Evans. Also, it always irks me when the only female member of the team just HAS to have a love interest on the team. She can't possibly date someone outside of the Avengers, she has to form a relationship with someone she works with, and always annoys me. The male characters can often date and have relationships with people completely removed from their work life, but the women never do. I'd have traded every single one of the awkward romance scenes in the movie for some of the missing transition/bridge scenes.
I don't do scores or letter grades in my reviews, but I definitely recommend it as a "Watch," especially if you enjoyed the first one. It's an overall more structured affair than the last one, despite some odd editing choices. I'm really hoping we get an extended edition.
Here are my NON SPOILER impressions:
Positives:
- Hawkeye! It was great seeing Clint get more fleshed out, and have a personality that was much more in line with comic book Hawkeye (a bit of a smartass, self deprecating sometimes, but still cocky). He had some great stuff to work with in this movie, so I'm sure Renner was pleased.
- Arrogant Thor! I love arrogant, sometimes clueless Thor, and he was back.
- Ultron! I thought Spader did a great job of being Ultron. I didn't find him a "weak Marvel villain" in the slightest. He had clear motivations and a plan, and was menacing, but also humorous and snarky, very much a "child" of Tony Stark. Speaking of...
- Not an Iron Man movie! I've always felt that Robert Downey Jr, as much as I love him, tends to take over the movies he's in, especially the first Avengers, which still felt like it was about Tony. This movie felt a lot more balanced in that regard. The film was just as much about Black Widow, Hulk, and Hawkeye than it was about Tony and Ultron. Considering that those three don't get their own solo flicks, this was a smart way to give us some depth with them in the context of the whole movie's main plot about Ultron.
- Vision! Hands down my favorite part of the movie. I wish there was more with him, as he is an intriguing character, and they did a great job bringing him to the big screen. He looks fantastic in live action, and has one of my favorite moments.
- Scarlett Witch! I wasn't sure how good Elizabeth Olsen would be in the movie, but I thought she did a great job, and her character was handled well. Quicksilver is also pretty good, but not as impressive as Scarlett Witch.
Negatives:
- Weird editing. I'm not talking about the action scenes, which I felt were actually really well done, with the exception of a few moments. but the scene transitions in some parts of the movie were very jarring. It really does feel like they had to cut a LOT of content, and entire scenes to make their intended run time. Personally, I wouldn't have minded a 2:45-3 hour long movie. It needed some of those bridge scenes that tied events together. Because of the editing, some portions of the movie felt like a bunch of scenes just stapled together. This wasn't throughout the whole movie, just a few transitions where you totally felt like a reel was missing.
- Black Widow/Hulk/Banner "romance." It just fell flat. Ruffalo and Johansson don't really have any chemistry in that way. I actually think she has better rapport with Chris Evans. Also, it always irks me when the only female member of the team just HAS to have a love interest on the team. She can't possibly date someone outside of the Avengers, she has to form a relationship with someone she works with, and always annoys me. The male characters can often date and have relationships with people completely removed from their work life, but the women never do. I'd have traded every single one of the awkward romance scenes in the movie for some of the missing transition/bridge scenes.
I don't do scores or letter grades in my reviews, but I definitely recommend it as a "Watch," especially if you enjoyed the first one. It's an overall more structured affair than the last one, despite some odd editing choices. I'm really hoping we get an extended edition.
excelsiorlef
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Yeah IM 3 was my fav when it came out, Tony Stark dealing with the fallout of almost being nuked in space by developing PTSD and panic attacks? Gutsy move, and it worked.
IM 3 was only supplanted by the two you mentioned WS is my favorite comic book movie ever.
RadioHammer500
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who are the confirmed characters so far for Infinity War... does anyone know
excelsiorlef
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Thanos 
I don't think anything has been released.
I don't think anything has been released.
MagicWithEarvin
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I thought it was a decent, kept my expectations in check and had a good time. The scene after the movie ended got me hyped, tho. Can't wait!
the biggest disappointment was not getting the Star Wars trailer at my theater((((((
This is actually what I'm most worried about. I'm sure I'll enjoy the movie but I really want to see the Star Wars trailer on the big screen.
TheWorthyEdge
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Guys, wth are some of you talking about? This was far and away the better Avengers movie, hell one of the best Marvel movies. Top 3 for me. Ultron was amazing, Vision was a badass, and the newbies were fantastic! Pacing was great, and the balance between characters, albeit Thor, was phenomenal. Also, some of you saying there was no setup may need their heads checked. This whole movie was setup but to a point that everything cohesively crafted into this movie.
Watching it recently, I started to view the film like if Shane Black made a Bond film and the Iron Man suit is Bond's coolest gadget yet.
After the backlash over Iron Man 2 for just doing more of the same as Iron Man but ramping it up ( I actually liked IM2), it's not surprising they took a completely different direction and tried to remix a lot of the formula. It's a bit of a bummer that they didn't go full on with a Mandarin adaptation of some sort, but I've definitely warmed up to both Trevor Slattery and Aldrich Killian, especially when I view the movie as some sort of alternate universe Bond film.
Ninja Scooter
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Went and caught an early showing this afternoon to try and beat the crowds. My instant reaction was pretty mixed. I did like how they jumped right into the action without any unnecessary set up, really felt like it was a part of a continuity, but other than that I didn't care for most of the beginning. It felt like they were really rushing through story and character development, Ultron in particular, all the way up until the scene
, which I just found cheesy as fuck. It felt like they were trying to force things way too much there in terms of character with Hawkeye and the whole
which didn't come across well at all to me. I think they also did a poor job of conveying just what/how/why Ultron was doing what he was doing. The movie picked up when Vision appeared though. He was a cool ass character, especially visually.
I think we are starting to see the blessing and the curse of having a huge, constant movie universe for these movies. It's cool to be able to revisit characters over the course of multiple movies, but I feel like the formula is starting to get stale. The end battle consisting of a bunch of quick shots of the team destroying a bunch of disposable baddies while trying to get to/stop the macguffin is getting old too.
And my god, the fucking one liners. I mean, I know the "no jokes" thing has sort of become a meme with regards to the Marvel and DC movie universes, but it almost felt like a parody at times. Every character had some sarcastic one liner to deliver after nearly any and every moment of action.
It was a bit much. Leave that stuff to Tony Stark, and even then tone it down a little.
All said, after Winter Soldier and Guardians this was a bit of a let down for me, but I think it's mostly because the formula is getting a bit stale with these characters. The movie mostly felt like a filler to me. The fact that Vision was, for me, probably the best part of the movie leaves me with some hope that adding new characters like Black Panther, Dr. Strange and Spiderman is exactly what the MCU needs though.
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Natasha/Bruce relationship
I think we are starting to see the blessing and the curse of having a huge, constant movie universe for these movies. It's cool to be able to revisit characters over the course of multiple movies, but I feel like the formula is starting to get stale. The end battle consisting of a bunch of quick shots of the team destroying a bunch of disposable baddies while trying to get to/stop the macguffin is getting old too.
And my god, the fucking one liners. I mean, I know the "no jokes" thing has sort of become a meme with regards to the Marvel and DC movie universes, but it almost felt like a parody at times. Every character had some sarcastic one liner to deliver after nearly any and every moment of action.
There was even a one liner delivered by Quicksilver when he fucking died!
All said, after Winter Soldier and Guardians this was a bit of a let down for me, but I think it's mostly because the formula is getting a bit stale with these characters. The movie mostly felt like a filler to me. The fact that Vision was, for me, probably the best part of the movie leaves me with some hope that adding new characters like Black Panther, Dr. Strange and Spiderman is exactly what the MCU needs though.
I agree.
It doesn't always have to be thrown in our faces that *this* film changes everything. Winter Soldier took that approach to 11 and it worked well because we never saw such a status-quo change. But now that we have seen that sort of film with Winter Soldier, I'm pleased that AoU took a more subtle approach to it's effect in the larger MCU.
bodine1231
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I thought it was ok,a little long in parts but the action was good. I have it as the 6th best Marvel movie.
1. Avengers
2. Winter Soldier
3. Guardians
4. Iron Man 1
5. Cap 1
6. Avengers 2
1. Avengers
2. Winter Soldier
3. Guardians
4. Iron Man 1
5. Cap 1
6. Avengers 2
I had the same reaction when I watched it. I didn't even know so much of the movie got cut, but it made a lot of sense when I thought back. "Oh, that was probably explained in a deleted scene" or "Oh, that almost mid-sentence cut probably wasn't there originally".
brandonh83
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This was fucking great. Way better than the first one. Most of the problems I've read about didn't ring true for me thankfully. Legitimately excited for the 2-parter.
BenjaminBirdie
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THE BEST. FUCKING MOVIE. EVER.
Stevetopsy
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I hope your not serious. There are plenty of reasons for a person to not have liked IM3 and none of them have to be because they aren't a movie lover and just want to see pretty colors.
- Didn't like how Extremis was portrayed. Usually the tech in MCU is somewhat believable but rando soldiers being able to turn themselves into molten lava and regrow limbs felt and looked silly.
- Tony's new suit was cool except he never gets to fully use it. The "house party" suits were made of paper and even worse, made it look like Tony doesn't even need to be in the suit anymore.
- They abandon and waste the PTSD thread about halfway through which could have been really interesting to explore.
- The Mandarin twist was clever but you need to replace him with an actual villain. Fooling fans into thinking we were getting something to do with the 10 rings, the rings or the group, was shitty and thankfully something they sort of fixed with the "All Hail the King" short.
- Iron Patriot and no Warmachine.
- The whole ending with super Pepper who is now a lava women who knows kung fu saving Tony while he sits there suitless as the big bad is defeated.
- Pepper is cured with a throwaway mention during the outro and Tony's iconic chest piece is removed (why?) and thrown away to go along with all of his suits.
- The movie leaves you with an Iron Man with no suits, no home, no arc reactor, making it seem like he is leaving that life behind. It was the equivalent of letting the air out if the Avengers balloon for me right before the credits roll.
I was beyond excited for Phase 2 after Avengers and IM3 is the only MCU film that i've been disappointed, at least as a whole. I get that they were trying to show that he is more than just a suit or armor but there was absolutely no balance to it. I feel like people give IM3 a pass just because it was directed by Shane Black. I really can't think of anything it did all too well besides the 1999 flashback.
One of these days I'm going to have to stop watching these things. It's a totally okay movie, just like most of Marvel's productions. Not awful, not great, just more mindless entertainment. It tries to inject some forced and surface level character development during exposition time, but it never really resonated with me emotionally. I never really cared for anyone or anything in this movie. Were there stakes in this movie? Who gives a shit. It's kinda sad because this movie does present interesting ideas, primarily
But what does Avengers 2 do with these concepts? Fuck-all. It's not really wroth discussing the plot in this movie on any major level. It's like, whatever.
The action scenes are all right, they never rise beyond that. They're not presented or executed in a particularly creative or inventive manner. It's usual comic book fare.
And that's what Avengers 2 is in a nutshell. Usual comic book fare.
I really liked A1 when it came out due to the novelty of seeing all these disparate superheroes working together in a single movie. It was something new, and more amazingly, it worked really well. But the genie is out of the bottle, and that feeling is impossible to be replicated again. What I liked most about A1 is the humor, and it's not that this one didn't deliver there, I just didn't find it as funny I guess.
It was all right, a good time, unless you're a crazy person expecting some sort of masterpiece, you'll probably have a good time as well.
the creation of an all-powerful rogue AI and a new godlike artificial lifeform.
The action scenes are all right, they never rise beyond that. They're not presented or executed in a particularly creative or inventive manner. It's usual comic book fare.
And that's what Avengers 2 is in a nutshell. Usual comic book fare.
I really liked A1 when it came out due to the novelty of seeing all these disparate superheroes working together in a single movie. It was something new, and more amazingly, it worked really well. But the genie is out of the bottle, and that feeling is impossible to be replicated again. What I liked most about A1 is the humor, and it's not that this one didn't deliver there, I just didn't find it as funny I guess.
It was all right, a good time, unless you're a crazy person expecting some sort of masterpiece, you'll probably have a good time as well.
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BenjaminBirdie
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One of these days I'm going to have to stop watching these things. It's a totally okay movie, just like most of Marvel's productions. Not awful, not great, just more mindless entertainment. It tries to inject some forced and surface level character development during exposition time, but it never really resonated with me emotionally. I never really cared for anyone or anything in this movie. Were there stakes in this movie? Who gives a shit. It's kinda sad because this movie does present interesting ideas, primarilyBut what does Avengers 2 do with these concepts? Fuck-all. It's not really wroth discussing the plot in this movie on any major level. It's like, whatever.the creation of an all-powerful rogue AI and a new godlike artificial lifeform.
The action scenes are all right, they never rise beyond that. They're not presented or executed in a particularly creative or inventive manner. It's usual comic book fare.
And that's what Avengers 2 is in a nutshell. Usual comic book fare.
I really liked A1 when it came out due to the novelty of seeing all these disparate superheroes working together in a single movie. It was something new, and more amazingly, it worked really well. But the genie is out of the bottle, and that feeling is impossible to be replicated again. What I liked most about A1 is the humor, and it's not that this one didn't deliver there, I just didn't find it as funny I guess.
It was all right, a good time, unless you're a crazy person expecting some sort of masterpiece, you'll probably have a good time as well.
Lol drop the gifs bro. I said movie. Best film is always magnolia. You can relax now.
Naughty_Doge
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I liked it but my god why must there be a joke every 3 minutes? The "humour" was too much. It's not about the presence of comedy itself, I like comedy... but this was full of bad jokes and TERRIBLE one-liners.
BenjaminBirdie
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I thought it was hilarious. Adam McKay ghostwrite for sure.
Nothing makes me laugh harder than when Iron Man 3 haters cry bitter salty tears. It's like you guys just can't accept that someone actually made a good movie out of what would have basically been a trash-tier villain who was a racist stereotype from days gone by. Lololol.
It's really not. In fact a couple of my major complaints about it have been echoed in the complaints in this thread. One-liners out the wazzoo and a laughable villain.
Nothing makes me laugh harder than when Iron Man 3 haters cry bitter salty tears. It's like you guys just can't accept that someone actually made a good movie out of what would have basically been a trash-tier villain who was a racist stereotype from days gone by. Lololol.
LOL
Iron Man 3's real villain is even more trash than the Mandarin would've been. You'll have to forgive me if I don't find yet another corporate CEO with piss poor development enticing. When part of your villain's motivations stem from being embarrassed at a New Year's Eve party a decade earlier by the main character, you done goofed. The third act is a trainwreck, it spends more of its time trying to be funny than making you care about what's going on, and it squanders the best cast of all three movies. I don't care how much the "Shane Black saved it from being a disaster" and "lol you guys still salty bout that twist!" crowd try to convince me otherwise. The movie is garbage.
holy fuck what a shit fucking movie. the story was all over the place, the only real character arc was kinda banner and nat....and that's it. terrible cinematography and I dunno if it was my theater, but the sound mixing was fucking horrible, there was no impact...to well anything. At least I got to see it for free.
Winter Soldier takes a crap on it from great heights.
Winter Soldier takes a crap on it from great heights.
YesNOnoNOYes
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I liked iron man 3. I think it was fresh and endearing. The pepper solution at the end was a bit janky, but other than that it was really really really enjoyable.
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BenjaminBirdie
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The sound in my theater was also garbage. Can't wait to see it again tomorrow somewhere loud.
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