MAYWEATHER VS. PACQUIAO Official May 2nd

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Ali never ducked anyone. Floyd ducked Paq. That's a fact and it invalidates him from any list of greatest ever. He's great but the best don't duck fights. They take on all comers.



Ah ok never mind then.

It's not a fact. Bob Arum insured that the fight didn't happen years ago, because he didn't want his cash cow to dry up before it had too.
 
Thoughts on Danny Garcia as Mayweather's last opponent before retirement?

A young, talented, up and coming undefeated boxer.

Edit: He beat Khan as well, a GAF favorite.
Love Danny great fighter best guy at 140, and performs well as an underdog but is looking too small for welterweight , Floyd will eat him alive
 
"This is interesring, Paquiao was the Red corner, Mayweather was the Blue corner, official judges appeared to have given the points to Paquiao yet
result was a reverse, look what is hand written in the bottom of the score card on the right?"

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I'm guessing this has been posted?

You know what's really weird? They all have the same handwriting!
 
It's not a fact. Bob Arum insured that the fight didn't happen years ago, because he didn't want his cash cow to dry up before it had too.

Exactly, if Floyd had fought Pac 5 years ago the same thing would've happened, May outclassing him. This would have reduced Pac to instabum status and killed his PPV drawing power. I mean look how many people claim floyd "cherry picks" his fights or ducks fighters. They give no credit to the caliber of fighters Floyd has thoroughly outclassed in his career. Floyd has feasted on champions and HOFers and gets no credit for it, people act like he hasn't fought anybody.

That's what would've happened to Manny if he had fought floyd back then. Casual fans, like a lot of the people in this thread, would have instantly claimed Pac isn't that great instead of giving Floyd his due for beating a great fighter. Arum knew this and wanted nothing of it
 
Ali missed 4 years in his prime. Ali knocked out his biggest competitors (Fraizer, Foreman). Floyd beat his by decision (Oscar, Pac). The defining image of Ali is:

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Mayweather's will be a hug:

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Ali never knocked out Frazier. Ali arguably never beat Smokin Joe.

That defining image of Ali you posted is of a fight where his opponent Liston almost certainly took a dive, and Ali's reaction is either him being angry realizing that Liston was throwing it, or Ali was in on it to and was pissed that Liston was being to obvious.
 
Sorry but on a business standpoint, this fight felt rigged... I mean...

1. First, it felt like a sparring match between the two. I know Mayweather is gonna do his thing but Manny didn't even do his usual uptempo all-in style.

2. They dragged it out and earned their money and all smiles after the fight still.

3. The fight felt like choreographed where Mayweather will still keep his streak while Manny still "look good" by actually trying, and earning people's respect.

4. The talks Floyd saying when hugging Pac...

It's a C-O-N-SPIRACY! lol

But seriously though... I definitely know both sides didn't go all in. I don't care about the other details, but this fight definitely isn't about showing who's the best of both fighters.
 
Ali never knocked out Frazier. Ali arguably never beat Smokin Joe.

That defining image of Ali you posted is of a fight where his opponent Liston almost certainly took a dive, and Ali's reaction is either him being angry realizing that Liston was throwing it, or Ali was in on it to and was pissed that Liston was being to obvious.

Hey hey, quit crushing his argument, that's just mean
 
"This is interesring, Paquiao was the Red corner, Mayweather was the Blue corner, official judges appeared to have given the points to Paquiao yet
result was a reverse, look what is hand written in the bottom of the score card on the right?"

10632840_10152794513413045_5524611406974723287_n.jpg


I'm guessing this has been posted?

"And here come the pretzels asinine conspiracy theories!"
 
Ali never knocked out Frazier. Ali arguably never beat Smokin Joe.

That defining image of Ali you posted is of a fight where his opponent Liston almost certainly took a dive, and Ali's reaction is either him being angry realizing that Liston was throwing it, or Ali was in on it to and was pissed that Liston was being to obvious.
Thriller in Manila was a TKO. Ali won that.

Liston took a dive 'cos he was scared of Ali

:P kidding, that's a fair point about the image

Hey hey, quit crushing his argument, that's just mean

lol, why don't try your own arguments?
 
And excluding the 148 punches landed by Mayweather somehow

Could have fooled me, looked like neither guy did much of anything. Manny swinging around at air a couple times and Floyd landing some soft ass jabs for points.

Like I was saying, look at that picture without knowing anything about it and tell me if that was before or after the fight.
 
Thriller in Manila was a TKO. Ali won that.

Liston took a dive 'cos he was scared of Ali

I adore Ali as a boxer, I think he truly is The Greatest, but he never convincingly beat Frazier to the point that he was a clear cut above him. The first fight was definitely Frazier's, no doubt about it. The second was Ali's. Their third and final bout could have gone either way. Ali was ready to forfeit when Frazier's corner threw in the towel despite Frazier still wanting to go despite barely being able to see in one eye.

Ali and Frazier were clearly evenly matched throughout the entirety rivalry. I think Frazier was the only who Ali admitted to being impervious to his mindgames.
 
Exactly, if Floyd had fought Pac 5 years ago the same thing would've happened, May outclassing him. This would have reduced Pac to instabum status and killed his PPV drawing power. I mean look how many people claim floyd "cherry picks" his fights or ducks fighters. They give no credit to the caliber of fighters Floyd has thoroughly outclassed in his career. Floyd has feasted on champions and HOFers and gets no credit for it, people act like he hasn't fought anybody.

That's what would've happened to Manny if he had fought floyd back then. Casual fans, like a lot of the people in this thread, would have instantly claimed Pac isn't that great instead of giving Floyd his due for beating a great fighter. Arum knew this and wanted nothing of it

Yep this is exactly what happened. If people cared more about boxing and less about narratives they would all be appreciating the technical skill Mayweather uses to beat all of his opponents.
 
I thought the fight last night was .. what I expected. My trainer Tafari Lawton broke it down to me a few years ago, saying that Floyd was just too fast and that Manny wouldnt be able to get in and do damage ... and he was right. To the untrained eye it may look like Floyd was just running around, but he connected on twice as many punches, had some great counters and didnt show any openings throughout the 12 rounds. Nothing Manny could do unless he was willing to take a lot more risks, which he clearly wasnt.

Disappointing? Sure, but I had a good time watching, it was flawless execution by one of the best fighters ever. Terrible human being, mind you.
 
The fight was boring and not worth the PPV cost, but everyone expecting it to be a slug-fest with a knockout were sadly mistaken and got pulled into the "ESPN baloney-train hype."

Never trust ESPN
 
Yep this is exactly what happened. If people cared more about boxing and less about narratives they would all be appreciating the technical skill Mayweather uses to beat all of his opponents.

You can appreciate his skill and find it boring as shit. It's all a matter of opinions which type of boxer one prefers. It doesn't make one viewpoint casual unless that person is claiming there is no skill involved with what Floyd does which would be a stupid argument. I hope the same people who come to Floyd's defense come to Klitchko's after they get shit on for being boring fighters and killing the HW division.
 
It was a shit fight, stop denying it. And it was because your boy Mayweather decided to run and grab during must of the fight. He is faster, stronger, taller and heavier than Pacquio and he decided to fucking run. Is not that hard to see why a lot of people are disappointed about the fight.
A runner doesn't throw more punches than his opponent, especially when that opponent is known for throwing lots of punches. Floyd nearly doubled him up in shots landed, connecting at nearly twice the percentage of Manny's output. If you're upset, you should direct your anger towards Manny for simply getting outboxed.
 
What if we don't think they're facts? It's just an opinion that it was a boring match. Boring =/= unskilled, non-technical, not a great boxer, "box should only be one way", etc. - it's just a result of people generally finding upbeat, flashy matches more entertaining.

It´s mind boggling to me how anyone can respect someone who ''fights'' like that.
Are you fucking kidding me dude.Floyd should be a stationary target for biz opponents punches, what a dumb ass strategy.
 
Doesn't disprove my point.

Cause he's black and black domestic offenders are worse than others, let's just be frank about it. That's why it keeps coming up.


Plus rich, arrogant, undefeated, and famous.
I won't root against Money Mayweather for this reason, too much hatred of him feels shady as fuck to me. "Nigger" is on the tip of too many muhfuckas tongues for me to jump on the hate train.
 
"This is interesring, Paquiao was the Red corner, Mayweather was the Blue corner, official judges appeared to have given the points to Paquiao yet
result was a reverse, look what is hand written in the bottom of the score card on the right?"

10632840_10152794513413045_5524611406974723287_n.jpg


I'm guessing this has been posted?

Red corner is champion and blue corner is challenger. Has nothing to do with the actual color of the corner.
 
Lmao bunch of clowns at the party I was at saying boxing is a joke all dancing no punching, mayweather didn't do shit etc

This fights results were all manny's fault. It looked like he couldn't keep up with Floyd nor did he up the tempo beyond the two rounds he won

Breh jabbed like 10 times in total too lol. Floyd's footwork and speed is still pretty tight, and he kept jabbing and countering when he could. If it was to go to a decision it was pretty clear who would (and should) win

...maidana was a bigger challenge
 
Reading through this thread and by god, I hope future fights aren't hyped up like this to get the casual fans and "Just Bleed" types interested and talking. So many embarrassing posts.

Fight was great to watch for me. Lots of technique happened in that ring, and yes, that includes the clinching. Pac played Floyd's game the entire match and it was great to see Floyd baiting Manny to do it the entire fight. That's what I love to see in fights. A boxer just imposing his will and seeing if the other guy can oppose it.

Pac didn't, and that's why he lost by every metric of the fight other than pleasing the crowd.
 
In the meantime, there's another technically brilliant boxer up at heavyweight, as dominant as Mayweather, but you probably can't even spell his last name, because he doesn't flash money and act like a moron to incite the suckers into praising him like he's some God, while his actual fighting style is effective but boring as shit.
I like Wlad, but counting his whole career, he hasn't been nearly as dominant as Floyd. The two most obvious reasons being that one, he's been knocked out badly on multiple occasions by relatively mediocre fighters. Two, Welterweight has been stacked while the Heavyweight division has been historically bad in Wlad's time. Not his fault, but it is what it is.
 
I won't root against Money Mayweather for this reason, too much hatred of him feels shady as fuck to me. "Nigger" is on the tip of too many muhfuckas tongues for me to jump on the hate train.

Can't say I'm with you on this one. There's genuine dislike, although to me he's one of the best fighters ever. He fought the best of the best and won every single time.
 
Can anyone explain to me why 'old' boxers are dominating the scene? Floyd is 38, Manny 36, Klitchko + 35 too. Is age less important in boxing compared to for example football? Or just not enough new young talent? If so, why aren't they there? Looking at the huge money that can be made, why isn't the sport more popular to take up?
 
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Sorry but on a business standpoint, this fight felt rigged... I mean...

1. First, it felt like a sparring match between the two. I know Mayweather is gonna do his thing but Manny didn't even do his usual uptempo all-in style.

2. They dragged it out and earned their money and all smiles after the fight still.

3. The fight felt like choreographed where Mayweather will still keep his streak while Manny still "look good" by actually trying, and earning people's respect.

4. The talks Floyd saying when hugging Pac...

It's a C-O-N-SPIRACY! lol

But seriously though... I definitely know both sides didn't go all in. I don't care about the other details, but this fight definitely isn't about showing who's the bes
t of both fighters.
I agree 10000%
 
Can anyone explain to me why 'old' boxers are dominating the scene? Floyd is 38, Manny 36, Klitchko + 35 too. Is age less important in boxing compared to for example football? Or just not enough new young talent? If so, why aren't they there? Looking at the huge money that can be made, why isn't the sport more popular to take up?

Canelo was dominating till he faced Mayweather :(
 
Lmao bunch of clowns at the party I was at saying boxing is a joke all dancing no punching, mayweather didn't do shit etc

This fights results were all manny's fault. It looked like he couldn't keep up with Floyd nor did he up the tempo beyond the two rounds he won

Breh jabbed like 10 times in total too lol. Floyd's footwork and speed is still pretty tight, and he kept jabbing and countering when he could. If it was to go to a decision it was pretty clear who would (and should) win

...maidana was a bigger challenge

Same here I've been ethering people on Facebook and Instagram saying the same stupid shit.
 
i know nothing about boxing but it was pretty obvious floyd one. idiots on facebook acting like it was fixed or the judges were biased… just shut up. don't act like an authority on something you clearly know nothing about.
 
Can anyone explain to me why 'old' boxers are dominating the scene? Floyd is 38, Manny 36, Klitchko + 35 too. Is age less important in boxing compared to for example football? Or just not enough new young talent? If so, why aren't they there? Looking at the huge money that can be made, why isn't the sport more popular to take up?

Well, you have young fighters dominating, however they don't have the same large fan base. Also the three guys you listed aren't the normal for the sport either. It'll be a long while before you have multiple fighters in the division being at the top for so long.

Also Mayweather style benefits largely because of his ring IQ not just what he is able to do physically.
 
Sometimes I wonder if there were a black serial killer, if some of you guys would say, "Well of course the outrage is worse, it's because he's black!"

Their are and have been black serial killers and no one said what you thought they were gonna say so I guess you got your answer. Anymore ridiculous questions? Like what if their were a black terroist I wonder if some of you guys would say, "Well of course the outrage is worse, it's because he's black!"


In the meantime, there's another technically brilliant boxer up at heavyweight, as dominant as Mayweather, but you probably can't even spell his last name, because he doesn't flash money and act like a moron to incite the suckers into praising him like he's some God, while his actual fighting style is effective but boring as shit.

You fell into floyd's bs he is a great boxer and an even better promoter because people like you will pay money to see someone try to beat him because you hate who he is and how he acts.
 
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