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[gossi]

To clarify, you will need a unique game registration code in order to play the game, and used copies will not be eligible to receive a key if the code has already been redeemed.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/1801851/#Comment_1801851

Not really a surprise considering it's an MMO, although I think it may be news for some console Elder Scrolls players as they're used to the game media being the game media, not the box basically being a license.

UPDATE -- U-Turn! - Bethesda have clarified Zenimax's original statement was incorrect - the game does NOT need a key to use and the media can be resold. ""The physical console version of The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited does not require a one-time game code, as with any other boxed PS4 / Xbox One game only the game disc is needed for verification," Bethesda said in a statement this afternoon. "Any previous statements counter to this were incorrect."

 

[Demoskinos]

Eh, its a MMO not entirely surprising. I hope people are aware of this fact and don't get suckered into buying used copies.

 

[Reluctant-Hero]

Welp, time to take this out of my Gamefly Q.

If they offer a timed trial, I'll try it. But I'm not interested in coughing up $60 without playing it for myself.

 

[statham]

might as well get it digitally then.

 

[ironcreed]

might as well get it digitally then.

Yep, that is what I am doing. Already pre-ordered on PS4.

 

[Bessy67]

Interesting. Has there ever been another console game that you couldn't buy used, or is this a first?

 

[Kwansu Dudes]

Hmm. Redbox should probably take this out of their "Coming Soon" games then.

 

[gossi]

For the record I think the game is great and looks fantastic for an MMO - so digital is way to go if you're considering. ~60gb download though.

 

[DirgeExtinction]

Hopefully places like Gamefly and Redbox remove them from their inventory. Same with stores that sell preowned games.

 

[Kinthalis]

Welcome to a brave new world.

 

[Demoskinos]

might as well get it digitally then.

Now just say that about all of your games and you're on the road to freedom my friend. Shed those physical chains holding you down and soar like an eagle into the digital future.

 

[The Real Napsta]

Ugh, get this PC gaming stuff off my consoles.

 

[cheststrongwell]

FFXI was the same I think.

 

[georly]

Interesting. Has there ever been another console game that you couldn't buy used, or is this a first?

Every mmo ever released on console.
Ffxi. Ffxiv. That PS2 everquest.

 

[Pagusas]

I wonder what will be the first single player game to do this and return us to microsofts vision of the future. I don't believe ms or Sony said anything about preventing third parities from doing such a thing.

 

[Ape]

If I'm the first person on my Redbox to rent it, will it still work for me on the Xbox One

 

[Pastry]

FFXI was the same I think.

Yeah, Gamestop won't buy used copies. I didn't know and tried to sell back lol

 

[cheststrongwell]

If I'm the first person on my Redbox to rent it, will it still work for me on the Xbox One

Key is probably in the manual.

 

[HowZatOZ]

Ugh, get this PC gaming stuff off my consoles.

Okay...? I'm not sure how people thought MMO's would work on consoles. They have to stop you from just buying the disc secondhand and getting a cheaper account, plus it wouldn't make sense to tie the account to disc if you happened to sell it down the track; the buyer would get an account already played.

 

[The Faceless Master]

Interesting. Has there ever been another console game that you couldn't buy used, or is this a first?

PSOv2 on Dreamcast iirc

 

[Reluctant-Hero]

Ugh, get this PC gaming stuff off my consoles.

edit: Ah, I understand what you mean now. Just imagine if the original vision for the Xbox One had come to pass. Codes are inevitable in the console space. Sooner or later, every game will have a key.

 

[Bessy67]

Okay...? I'm not sure how people thought MMO's would work on consoles. They have to stop you from just buying the disc secondhand and getting a cheaper account, plus it wouldn't make sense to tie the account to disc if you happened to sell it down the track; the buyer would get an account already played.

Why can't it be like every other online game on consoles? I mean, what's the reasoning why MMOs can't be resold but online MP shooters can?

 

[Breakfast at Noon]

I'm buying digotally for my ps4 as i have 2 machine for me and my lad, does this mean i only get 1 key and he can't play it? Because if so fuck that.

 

[HowZatOZ]

Why can't it be like every other online game on consoles? I mean, what's the reasoning why MMOs can't be resold but online MP shooters can?

Honestly I have no clue. I understand where you are coming from in that games like Destiny or CoD are tied to your PSN or Live account, but I guess MMO's are just so tied to the PC platform that porting them over means developers will just take what works on PC.

 

[Noobcraft]

Interesting. Has there ever been another console game that you couldn't buy used, or is this a first?

There was the weird period last gen where games came with unlock keys for multiplayer. So you could technically buy them used, but you couldn't play multiplayer without buying the pass.
https://support.us.playstation.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2496/~/playstation-online-pass

PlayStation Online Pass is a new program where you must first enter a voucher code to unlock multi-player online game play. First-party games that feature multi-player online, will include a voucher on the back of the software manual that will unlock this feature for the consumer. Consumers who purchase "used copies" of games that feature online multiplayer can unlock this feature by purchasing the entitlement through the PlayStation Store.

 

[SmoothRunningGun]

Redbox has it listed as coming soon. Going to have some pissed customers.

 

[TheFurizzlyBear]

Why can't it be like every other online game on consoles? I mean, what's the reasoning why MMOs can't be resold but online MP shooters can?

Because you are really buying the key and the disc is just a delivery medium for the client

 

[Iacobellis]

So... basically Xbox One before the DRM reversal?

 

[lazygecko]

Why can't it be like every other online game on consoles? I mean, what's the reasoning why MMOs can't be resold but online MP shooters can?

Probably don't like the metamarket of selling accounts with max level, high geared characters (or even positions in prestigious guilds). That kind of culture gets pretty detrimental for other players as well when you end up with high level players ruining dungeon runs for others because they just bought the account and have no idea what they're doing.

 

[TheFurizzlyBear]

So... basically Xbox One before the DRM reversal?

Or every like mmo that is not F2P currently

Probably don't like the metamarket of selling accounts with max level, high geared characters (or even positions in prestigious guilds). That kind of culture gets pretty detrimental for other players as well when you end up with high level players ruining dungeon runs for others because they just bought the account and have no idea what they're doing.

That can still happen though, just like all other console MMO's you have an account for the game that is separate from your XBL/PSN account. The key is tied to the game account and they can still easily sell that.

 

[Ashodin]

It's probably going to drive even more people to play Xbone's Neverwinter.

 

[Breakfast at Noon]

It's probably going to drive even more people to play Xbone's Neverwinter.

This will effwct so few people you'd be surprised.

 

[jesu]

Will probably wait for it to go on sale then(if it ever goes on sale)

 

[SEGAvangelist]

So... basically Xbox One before the DRM reversal?

No. You could trade licenses once with original drm or trade in to select retailers.

 

[BabyFaceKillah]

Guess I'm out.

Till its either f2p or a cheaper price.

 

[RobbieNick]

"Shrugs shoulders" It's an MMO. Kinda goes with the territory. Maybe they'll have a trail version first.

 

[tim_pkmn89]

So like a lot of older online games

 

[Zen Mu]

Every mmo ever released on console.
Ffxi. Ffxiv. That PS2 everquest.

Even DCUO on PS3 had cd-keys back when it first came out as P2P.

PSOv2 on Dreamcast iirc

Did v2 have one? Been so long I can't remember.

edit: Dug it up, and yup there is a cd key.

 

[HowZatOZ]

It's probably going to drive even more people to play Xbone's Neverwinter.

You'd be surprised how little people care about this situation. Hasn't stopped people enjoying MMO's in the past.

 

[PunishedReaver]

Have some of y'all never played an mmo on console? They had this sort of thing since the original Phantasy Star Online.

 

[atomsk]

Considering they ditched sub fees, I find this move a bit puzzling.

Oh well, didn't care for it much when I played the beta, would have only rented out of curiosity.

 

[GifGafIsTheBestGaf]

Damn, I would guess it is also account bound like Final Fantasy on the PS4. Meaning you can't play the game if it isn't with the account you bought it. /Digital version

 

[SRTtoZ]

You can't re-sell the discs of any MMO's if I recall correctly. My DCUO and FFXIVARR discs are good coasters though.

 

[Requiem]

I'm buying digotally for my ps4 as i have 2 machine for me and my lad, does this mean i only get 1 key and he can't play it? Because if so fuck that.

I'd like to know this aswell

 

[Dega]

Welp, time to take this out of my Gamefly Q.

If they offer a timed trial, I'll try it. But I'm not interested in coughing up $60 without playing it for myself.

I actually hope they don't remove it from their website because of this. I have it on my Q just so I can install it without downloading 65GB.

 

[SRTtoZ]

I'm buying digotally for my ps4 as i have 2 machine for me and my lad, does this mean i only get 1 key and he can't play it? Because if so fuck that.

If you have 2 machines you can install it on both but you can only play using the same account you create in game. Meaning two people can't play the game at the same time because that would be like getting 2 games for the price of 1.

 

[gossi]

I'm buying digotally for my ps4 as i have 2 machine for me and my lad, does this mean i only get 1 key and he can't play it? Because if so fuck that.

Sort of. Digital versions only get one account creation. Only one person can be signed into account concurrently.

 

[d9b]

Aaaaand...I'm out.

 

[MrGerbils]

I was super surprised to see it listed on Gamefly as coming soon. Imagine they'll be taking that down.

 

[Big Green Anus]

Had little interest, but now it's completely away!