Robot Pants
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So this is always possible later despite whatever bullshit PR Sony and MS throw at us?
Xbox One adds Xbox 360 backwards compatibility
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I would probably go with the first option if it means no work for the developers. Or the 3rd option and Microsoft has made some fancy conversion tools.
The hardware is powerful enough to run 360 games. The reason why PCs can't at the moment or very poorly is due to people having to reverse engineer how the 360 worked, where as if you have the engineers and source code to how they work ported it to Xbox One is highly possible!
I'm guessing it has taken a lot of work to run 360 games natively either way so good on Microsoft for adding it and making it a free feature
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
I'm curious how this actually works. Are they packing an emulator with these downloaded versions or are you downloading the emulator to run off the disc?
You can't possibly be downloading the whole damn game again... Are you?
It's interesting how they are going about it but the conditions to get it out there depending on publishers -- why would they allow it if they are planning on doing a re-release?
Trying to figure this out as well, haven't seen any preview updates or anything yet
Delusibeta
Banned
I suppose you can argue PS2 Classics was the first, but that was re-buying games and not proper backwards compatibility. There's also Xbox Originals, which operates on the exact same model as this, but was announced before the release of the 360.
The only real downside to this (other than publishers screwing us over in order to sell remasters) is that dead games stay dead. So something like Sega Rally Revo wouldn't become BC, because Sega likely doesn't have the permission to give.
AgentOtaku
Member
This was by far my favorite announcement (^____^)
I have a feeling that's exactly what will happen. Publisher approval kills this.
And so far we don't know if the region lock will stay in place.
For instance, the probability that any Japanese 360 niche titles become playable on Xbone seems slim.
Daffy Duck
Member
Sony are too far down the PS Now path to do this.
dehalcyone
Banned
Raiden iv is the one 360 game I still own. I hope quoting you somehow affects the cosmos in a way that pushes ms to get that one going
I mean, espgaluda, dodonpachi 1.5, etc would be sick too. But how many people really imported those?
Deadpool_X
Banned
They supported and continued to add games monthly until November 2007, which was 2 years after the launch of the 360.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
And the ever growing virtual console on Nintendo hardware.
The Abominable Snowman
Member
The day someone confirms UMvC3 working, I will buy an Xbox One. I was trying to hold off for Phantom Dust or Scalebound but BC could get me to upgrade same-day
Phoenix944
Member
That is really cool. I wish Sony would follow but with that PS now I guess they won't :/
gamechanger87
Member
You always download the game. Disc serves as a key if you don't have it digital.
dcx4610
Member
Impossible. Xbox One hardware is different than the 360. It's either going to be emulation, streaming or a recompiled version.
https://twitter.com/majornelson/status/610488682173194240
Odd. 360 guide pops up within the game, within the Xbox One guide...
Odd. 360 guide pops up within the game, within the Xbox One guide...
That's exactly what is happening by the sound of it.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
They can always make it more attractive by lowering subs, or even have a monstrous discount for Plus members to counter this.
Catatafish
Banned
This is awesome, never owned a 360 so that's exactly what I need.
Awwwwwww yiss
VibratingDonkey
Member
Still have my 360, which I barely use, so not of a whole lot of personal interest currently.
Delusibeta
Banned
True, but that was at launch, and PS2 Classics has the asterisk of the first run of PS3s being backwards compatible with the PS2.
riskVSreward
Member
For the billionth time, streaming PS1 or PS2 games would cost them way more in bandwidth than just porting the emulators. PS Classics will come to PS4, bank on it.
How is the timing perfect when both of those games aren't offered?
I wouldnt hold my breath
Kamina
Golden Boy
Software emulation is always possible. What Nintendo does with WiiU's Wii Mode is hardware emulation.
Ape Gone Insane
Member
Yup, this is pretty much all I've wanted. One console for all the new games + all the 360 ones I want to replay (Skyrim, Mass Effect, Bioshock, Oblivion).
cm osi
Member
streaming ps one games isn't worth the bandwith. just keep selling them at 5$. dunno for ps2
yeah, disc emulation is not happening anyway.
Pixel Samurai
Member
Hey where can we beg for preview invites?
Wait. Not all games are working? Where can I see a list of games?
Eduardboon
Member
yes, where can we beg for preview invites?
BLUElightCory
Member
I think it's pretty huge. Anything that brings more people into current-gen consoles is a good thing overall.
It's smart on Microsoft's part. If a 360 player is trying to decide between moving to an XBox One or a PS4 and the XBox One will play their old games too, it's a huge selling point.
If Sony announced backwards compatibility as well then it wouldn't be such a big deal in the big picture, but as it stands it's a huge selling point considering how similar the two consoles are otherwise.
It's smart on Microsoft's part. If a 360 player is trying to decide between moving to an XBox One or a PS4 and the XBox One will play their old games too, it's a huge selling point.
If Sony announced backwards compatibility as well then it wouldn't be such a big deal in the big picture, but as it stands it's a huge selling point considering how similar the two consoles are otherwise.
Microsoft has incredibly talented engineers. They've been able to pull it off twice now, but that doesn't mean it's always possible.
For example... if any game uses the crazy EDRAM logic of the 360 GPU combined with the data in EDRAM to wide effect, i'd have to imagine said games may not be able to make the jump
ASSauLTxMasTER
Member
Damn, sucks, I'm not part of the preview program.
http://compass.xbox.com/assets/c6/4...ard-compatability-available-games-june-15.pdf
http://compass.xbox.com/assets/c6/4...ard-compatability-available-games-june-15.pdf
Would be nice if they listed more than a bunch of Rare games and a few indies that people likely got in Humble Bundles anyway. And, uhh, Hexic, Mass Effect is the biggest deviation there and technically that's an MGS title in that incarnation. Do something like list a bunch of Microsoft Game Studios titles like the Halo/Forza/Gears/Fable games at least.
Nah, not really. Makes no sense to stream PSX or PS2 games. It would cost them more than the service would give them in return. Actual emulation makes a lot more sense.
jim-jam bongs
Member
True, I guess they're worried that if they include the tech in a firmware update someone will reverse engineer it and they'll lose control over the feature.