E3 2015 | Nintendo Digital Event

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Pizza

Member
When you put it that way it doesnt look bad for the rest of the year. Really want that tennis, devil's third, yoshi and

But no to the animal crossing boardgame and metroid balls. I really want Mario Maker, Wooly World, Starfox reboot, Devils Third, MARIO TENNIS, a Mario&Luigi x Paper Mario game.

That is a lot for 6 months.


I forgot all about metroid not-actually-anything, I like some of the design ideas (chibi characters are easier to read on a handheld) but it looks like fun? Not for me but someone will like it. I think the metroid prime branding is the most worthwhile thing from that game, they wouldn't call it prime unless 4 was in the works!

I don't get the knee-jerk Nintendo is dead reactions, all that was for *6 months* Sony's was for who knows how long in advance.

Actually "Nintendo is dead" is probably what would have happened no matter what this year looks pretty damn sweet as far as I can tell, a lot to look forward to!

Fucking Mario tennis, man. That got me.

And starfox using an hd version of the 64 aesthetic? Divine!
 
NX is DOA with the way Nintendo is destroying their rep. I can't see a sane person going to buy their new system when the customers got burned on previous one. We'll just be paying more money for the same thing to happen.

What's so bad about it, is that the Wii U was finally doing good again.

I feel the same exact way. I'm a Wii U owner. I'm like fuck Nintendo AND NX. Nintendo keeps disappointing me.

But if they were to announce a Splatoon sequel for NX, I know I would cave and be mad at myself for supporting Nintendo. It's just that the heroin of that game is too strong. I'm an addict.
 

idwl

Member
yeeeesh, i just finished watching it. I'm so glad i got a ps4 two weeks ago. i was really looking forward to zelda to come out this year and then it getting delayed hoped star fox would look good, but nothing really did it for me.
 
I can understand wanting new stuff and being frustrated by animal crossing

However, Nintendo made it abundantly clear that they were only showing the next ~8 months of releases. Not sure how realistic everyone's expectations were.
I don't see why this is relevant. I'm having flashbacks to the excuses given for the poor 2009-and-onward Xbox 360 conferences where every year it was the same prayer: "Microsoft always shows off a last-minute title" (except they never did).

Nintendo could make it abundantly clear that they were only showing the next 6 months, or the next 4, or whatever. The purpose of E3 is to excite your fans, give confidence to current owners of your platforms, and attract new buyers. I'm sure this Direct pleased some Nintendo fans, but for the most part it seems like people are disappointed. Taking that a step further, in what way does this attract new buyers or give owners of the system confidence? Not at all.

Only showing off the next ~8 months is on Nintendo. If it was a choice between showing off a few prototype/far-away games or only showing off games releasing in the next year, I'd definitely take the former in this case because the gaming landscape on Nintendo platforms looks hella sparse.
 

Iryx

Member
Alright, my thoughts:

-Star Fox
I've never really cared for StarFox, and there was nothing here that made me interested in this one, I guess it's looks alright but ehhh, no buy.
-Skylanders Reveal
Not into Skylanders or Amiibo, so don't care
-Zelda Triforce Heroes
Didn't get to really see anything about solo play, just that the other two characters would be statues and you switch between them, I'll be waiting for more footage of solo play before I make a decision, I don't want to play multiplayer Zelda.
-Hyrule Warriors 3DS Port
Looks alright I guess, dunno if getting all the DLC for free if going to make it worth buying the 3DS version over the Wii U version though, I'm leaning more towards Wii U.
-Metroid Prime Federation Force
Looks like absolute garbage, I'm just going to pretend this doesn't exist and that 3DS will never get a Metroid game.
-Fire Emblem Fates Footage
Didn't get any important new information about if western release is going to differ from the japanese split version, nothing but a '2016'.
-Fire Emblem x SMT
Going to keep my eye out for mor info on this. All japaense trailer with no dub sucks.
-Xenoblade X
Got no real info except a release date.
-Animal Crossing Home Decoration
Home decoration is one of my favourite parts of AC, but not enough to buy a whole game just focused around that.
-Animal Crossing Amiibo Party
It's Mario Party but it requires amiibos to play, WTF.
-Yoshi’s Wooly World
This dragged so long, but the more I'm seeing of YWW, the more I like it.
-Paper x Mario and Luigi
Hooray, something I actually liked, most likely going to buy.
-Mario Tennis
Don't care
-Mario Maker Montage
Zzzzzzzzzzz.
 

Cindro

Member
Did they show ANY minigames for that Animal Crossing thing? A fully fleshed out board-style game in the AC universe could be cool, but it looked like there was just the one map and no gameplay besides rolling the dice and losing bells. SURELY there's more to it than that.
 

213372bu

Banned
Did you watch EA? It was worse than Nintendo.

I think I'm going to have fun with Battlefront, Mirrors Edge, Garden warfare 2, and Fifa than I will with the lineup presented here today.

Sure their conference was shitty, but they had the games.

This conference was shitty but they had the most disappointing lineup they ever had.
 

Aostia

El Capitan Todd
one of the worst presentation in my memory, similar to the 08 one.
probably to balance one of the best ever, the sony one :p
even worst than it actually is, considering fatal frame, devil third and the general lineup of exclusive games I'm gonna buy
 
Wish I hadn't gotten up at 1AM for this... What were Nintendo thinking?

I guess they really have moved on to the next console if that's all they had to show?
 

Chitown B

Member
And they also seem desperate to prolong the 3DS' lifespan with all those new announcement for a system which has been on its way out for a while. A fact the new 3DS doesn't seem to be able to change.

Hang on now. The 3DS is a great system. And it just got an upgrade. It hasn't been out that long. Only 4 years, when the original was out for 7. It hasn't been "on its way out for awhile"
 

Vanillalite

Ask me about the GAF Notebook
Y'know, the info like Star Fox being Platinum, stuff like Fatal Frame getting Fall confirmation, made me realize just now that this could have been a good conference if they just prioritized the correct information and games.



Miyamoto confirmed in a post-conference IGN interview that Zelda is still Wii U.

This is the same crew who "confirmed" Zelda was 2015.

It could or couldn't happen, but I am not gonna take what Nintendo says about it to the bank.
 

Dr. Buni

Member
NX is DOA with the way Nintendo is destroying their rep. I can't see a sane person going to buy their new system when the customers got burned on previous one. We'll just be paying more money for the same thing to happen.

What's so bad about it, is that the Wii U was finally doing good again.
Exactly. First they gave zero fucks to the Wii during its final years, now they are doing the same but worse with the Wii U. I don't trust Nintendo enough to buy the NX.
Did you watch EA? It was worse than Nintendo.
EA had Unravel, Mirror's Edge and Garden warfare 2, at least.
 
Well, opinions, off course.

For me it had one good game, and that was MK8.

Even with other consoles in my flat and more games on them then I will be ever able to play, the 350 Euro I spent for the Wii U is a joke in hindsight.

I expected great things, and got two sub par Mario games, a mini game collection "with fireworks", an HD port of a 13 year old Zelda game, and Pikmin 3, which is kind of okay..

I am happy that you enjoy your Wii U.

I didn't.

So you bought it out of hype and was disappointed? who's fault is that? I bought a vita out of hype and while I blame sony for not properly supporting it and pretty much ignoring it now I'm also to blame.
 

Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
Star Fox Zero: 6/10. Looked decent, the transformations looked nice, Platinum is a nice dev. Interested in knowing the business model, it seems plainly not a full price retail title. Would like to see a bit more.

Zelda: Triforce Heroes: 6/10. It looks OK, I'll play it, and thank heavens it has online play. But this is very much an end-of-life title for the 3DS. It's the fourth Zelda game for the system, and it looks like a minor project. No interest in the fashion mechanic at all.

Hyrule Warriors Legends: 0/10. No interest in the original, no interest in a downport of the original. Not my kind of game. Glad some people like it though.

Metroid: Federation Force: 4/10. Didn't visually look very good, and I'm not convinced I want to play a co-op shooter on a handheld, especially not with the strong aim lock / assist that seemed to be present in both this and Blast Ball. This might be interesting, I guess, but it didn't premiere well.

Metroid: Blast Ball: 5/10. I was at the NWC and the reveal of this was exciting. The gameplay less so. Aiming locked on the blast ball, sort of wonky physics, not very intuitive powerup system. I think this might be a fun side mode to try but also didn't really demo well.

Fire Emblem 3DS: 5/10. This is Nintendo's version of a CG trailer. I guess I'm mildly interested in the game, but the tw version / DLC business model is kind of not something I am interested in, and just showing it as CG doesn't really excite me. I'd like to see the game.

SMTxFire Emblem Wii U: 0/10. Boobs and vocaloids, this represents everything shitty about Japanese game development in 2015, and you can't even tell what the fuck is going on in terms of the game itself. At the initial re-reveal there was some interesting looking footage of Tokyo, but it's straight downhill here. Repulsive.

Xenoblade Chronicles X: 5/10. Too many mecha. The open worlds look great. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little disappointed with the reception I've heard out of Japan so far. Hope it turns out great.

Animal Crossing: Happy Home: 9/10. This is an awesome extension of the Animal Crossing concept and I really look forward to see how it works with the card-based Amiibo (which they didn't mention). Really cool, and a great way to release more than one AC game on a platform.

Animal Crossing: Amiibo Festival: 2/10. When they first started I was like "AC Mario Party? Cool. I'll buy that." And then the minigames never came, it was just random dice roll text vignettes, and then it became obvious they want you to buy a bunch of Amiibo. Meh. If it's more of a game I'll play it.

Yoshi's Woolly World: 7/10. Presentation was mostly a recap of stuff we saw before. I'm going to buy the game. I like the idea that the Amiibo design came out of someone making a craft for the team. That was a cute touch.

Yokai Watch: 3/10. It looks OK, I guess, but I don't really get into the "collect 'em all" franchises and if I did it'd be Pokemon, not this. Gotta sell the TV show, though?

Mario & Luigi Paper Jam: 6/10. Cautiously optimistic. The game didn't look very good in their trailer and I didn't much like Sticker Star and never got the last M&L. But this could be cool.

Martio Tennis Ultra Smash: 3/10. I like Mario Tennis. I don't see it sustaining a console retail title. The main gimmick of the game seems to be mushrooms that make your characters big. Snooze. Wish they'd bring back RPG mode.

Mario Maker: 8/10. Game looks really cool, the dev docs from Mario 1 were great, and I can't wait to play it. Definitely the best thing Nintendo showed. And I'm impressed that the little interim videos featuring Mario turning into other Nintendo characters were actually Mario Maker footage, that was a neat surprise.

All in all it was clearly a "goodbye to 3DS/Wii U... wait for what's next" year. What they showed was OK, but nothing exciting or really new or fresh to me. I'll buy a few of the games. It's hard having a transition year, but it's necessary if you want the big guns next year. Of the non-demoed games on their press site only Fatal Frame really interests me so I'll check out that trailer in a bit.
 

PsionBolt

Member
I missed the Nintendo conference.. Had to take a relative to the Doctor.. Can someone summarize for me?

They showed a bunch of fun-looking games, including several that we had never or barely seen before. Zelda, Metroid, Paper Mario, Fire Emblem, Star Fox, and Animal Crossing made appearances, among others.

But none of those were Zelda U or NX, which means Nintendo is officially all washed up.
 

Zero²

Member
Eh this reaction is completely expected, specially after yesterday sony's press.
That new Zelda looks nice, too bad I dont have a 3ds. dammit
I wonder when the next Direct will be xD
 

AndrewPL

Member
Reading these comments are really frustrating.

The games shown are all releasing this year and early 2016.
They could have created cg trailers and had playable sections of Zelda and had a selection stronger than sony and microsoft (which are mostly just 3rd party anyway)
Maybe them focusing on the next 8 months was a mistake and they should have spent development time creating a trailer that would look nothing like the actual game that would release in 18 months time.

I'm also really disapointed to not see fzero and metroid or anything new and decent on the wiiu.
 
How did customers "get burned"???

Wii U has had the best and most diverse line up of exclusives since the Gamecube. You people are out of control, trolls, or are just plain stupid.

The Gamecube is my all-time favorite system in 35+ years of gaming. The Wii U is...not bad.

F-Zero, Wave Race, Monkey Ball, 1080, Baten Kaitos, Custom Robo, Eternal Darkness, REmake, Fire Emblem: POR, Ikaruga, Metroid Prime 1&2, Wind Waker & Twilight Princess, Mario Golf, Paper Mario, Star Fox Adventures, Wario World, and a handful of Japan-only games are all examples of exclusive Gamecube games that the Wii U can't answer to (or not yet).
 

Daweex

Banned
Well, opinions, off course.

For me it had one good game, and that was MK8.

Even with other consoles in my flat and more games on them then I will be ever able to play, the 350 Euro I spent for the Wii U is a joke in hindsight.

I expected great things, and got two sub par Mario games, a mini game collection "with fireworks", an HD port of a 13 year old Zelda game, and Pikmin 3, which is kind of okay..

I am happy that you enjoy your Wii U.

I didn't.

Wonderful 101, Bayonetta 2, Hyrule Warriors, Smash Bros, Splatoon, Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze etc...
These are some of the games you missed that I can think about at the top of my head
''Beaten housewife'' my ass, this conference wasn't that great but the WiiU has still a pretty good lineup.
And lol at 3D World being subpar
 

vin-buc

Member
Nintendo needs a serious managerial shake-up. All these old men are extremely out of touch. Also, every game looked extremely low quality with better looking phone games for a couple of dollars. How/why would people pay $30/$40 for the types of games shown??

Everything is amiibo - it's getting milked. It's obvious this is Nintendo's sliver of a silver lining in this gen.

I said in another thread a week or so back that Zelda wouldn't release exclusively on Wii U and I'm confident that is the case after today's show.
 

Not

Banned
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lol
 

Kai Dracon

Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Expectations for "hype" can be misleading and unrealistic, even unhealthy. I do think Nintendo could have stood to throw people a bone in the form of whatever Retro is working on, or a full confirmation of a Wii U Metroid game if it does exist.

However, other than that, there was nothing out of the ordinary here. Nintendo still focuses most of their attention on products that are coming out in the near future vs what is coming out in 2 or 3 years.

Nintendo needs a serious managerial shake-up. All these old men are extremely out of touch. Also, every game looked extremely low quality with better looking phone games for a couple of dollars. How/why would people pay $30/$40 for the types of games shown??
.

Good luck finding a 99 cent Android game that actually has the content or design quality of the average first party Nintendo title. Though I am reminded of a traditional effect that seems to happen when Nintendo reveals a new game - it doesn't typically focus on impressing with raw production values, is dismissed as "cheap", lazy, backwards, or boring. Six months later after people have forgotten initial impression based around exaggerated negativity, the game is released to positive reception for its quality.
 

NotLiquid

Member
People are as usual, exaggerating. It wasn't a great showing, but it had some solid stuff.

Fire Emblem
Mario Maker
Xenoblade
Yoshi
Mario Tennis
Youkai Watch
Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam
Star Fox

And don't give me that "Yeah well half that stuff is stuff we already knew about." shit if you were one of the people cumming in their pants last night over Sony's conference last night and typing in all caps while they were showing Uncharted 4, Horizon, Street Fighter V, No Man's Sky, or the reintroduction of a game that's been in development for eight years. Because you'll look pretty damn hypocritical. Something doesn't need to be unknown to be worth getting excited about.

While I wouldn't put it so bluntly, yeah I kind of agree.

Nintendo is one of the worse ones thus far but tensions easily run high. At the end of the day this was just another fairly perfunctory conference that is mostly underwhelming on account of what we didn't get, and also the knowledge that even though games like Star Fox and Mario & Luigi are pure quality, they're not necessarily show stoppers.

I think Sony's killer showing yesterday kind of inflated everything imaginable in terms of expectation.
 

Scoot2005

Banned
Starfox was decent looking. The rest was an absolute shit show in my opinion. So disappointing.

Well, Super Mario Maker looked pretty damn good. That will appease some people.
 
So like I get that they didn't want to show NX games because then everyone would say they're abandoning the Wii U.

But now people are saying that anyway and are also disappointed with what they showed.
 

Coda

Member
Nintendo still has not gotten a grip. The only hope is NX now. I'll buy Star Fox Zero even though the graphics were pretty bland. The fact that it was the highlight of the show was very telling of the future of the Wii U.
 

213372bu

Banned
Wonderful 101, Bayonetta 2, Hyrule Warriors, Smash Bros, Splatoon, Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze etc...
These are some of the games you missed that I can think about at the top of my head
''Beaten housewife'' my ass, this conference wasn't that great but the WiiU has still a pretty good lineup.
And lol at 3D World being subpar

The NES,SNES,64,GC, and Wii all had better lineups.

I have a hard time a Nintendo fan would disagree unless they were born until mid-way through the Wii cycle.
 

krizzx

Junior Member
Nintendo still has not gotten a grip. The only hope is NX now. I'll buy Star Fox Zero even though the graphics were pretty bland. The fact that it was the highlight of the show was very telling of the future of the Wii U.

What they are doing is destroying hope for the NX.

This makes 2 systems where they could have done so much, but didn't. Really, I must know, what are they expecting to come from this? Who thought this digital event was a good idea?
 
People are as usual, exaggerating. It wasn't a great showing, but it had some solid stuff.

Fire Emblem
Mario Maker
Xenoblade
Yoshi
Mario Tennis
Youkai Watch
Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam
Star Fox

That's basically "fanservice" and it only appeals to the Nintendo hardcore fanbase. None of showed titles have a significant appeal outside of the Nintendo echo chamber.
 

oxacillin

Banned
Overall, pretty underwhelming. The games coming out this year look too be fine, but the problem is the lack of unknowns on the Wii U, which is removing consumer confidence especially with the known release of the NX in a year or two (I'm still leaning toward 2).

There were also reveals of 3DS games in series that people are not happy with (Metroid and Paper Mario). However, Next Level does fine work, and I actually liked Dream Team and Sticker Star, so I guess I'm in the minority. I also see a lot of potential with the 3DS Zelda game, and I know I'll have a lot of fun with some friends.

FE: Fates being 2 games is a bad idea in my opinion, but it is how it is. If the games are long enough to be good and justify the cost, then fine. However, I have a feeling that isn't 100% the case. Especially with the supposed 3rd DLC/path or whatever.

SMT x FE just reinforces to me that Atlus is going down a path I do not want to follow. It has been fun Atlus, but the direction you are taking is no longer for me. Persona 5 looked like a return to form, but this completely turned all of that around.

Anyway, the actual releases for this year look fine. It is next year that I'm really concerned about.
 

Mr Swine

Banned
Wow, this was a really big disappointment for me :/ and what the hell is Nintendo thinking on Metroid Prime Galactic Federation? It looks even worse than the Metroid Prime DS game :(( I want a real Metroid game, not this $%#! Fest -_-
 

iori9999

Banned
No console metroid games? Just 3ds? Holy fuck that's bad.. Another Fire Emblem only on 3ds? They are shitting on Wii U already?
 

DECK'ARD

The Amiga Brotherhood
This is the same crew who "confirmed" Zelda was 2015.

It could or couldn't happen, but I am not gonna take what Nintendo says about it to the bank.

I fully expect Zelda to have 'outgrown' the Wii U at E3 next year, it will be presented as a positive for the game and NX.
 

Jazz573

Member
What are you guys complaining about? The Digital Event was AMAZING!

Star Fox
Two new Zelda games
Two new Metroid games
Fire Emblem
SMTxFE
Xenoblade X
Two new Animal Crossing games
Yoshi's Wooly World
Youkai Watch
New Mario & Luigi game
Mario Tennis
Super Mario Maker

That's FIFTEEN games. FIFTEEN GAMES PEOPLE!

And you're complaining. WOW.
 
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