Bungie defends Destiny: The Taken King's £/$40 price tag (Eurogamer)
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Yeah my first time was probably 6-8 but had the advantage of knowing kind of how the fights went by then though it was still early.
And I'm not poo-pooing VOG too much, it was pretty good content but that contrasted sharply with the rest of the game.
Production values and shooting mechanics were fantastic but lack of variety of content really shortened its lifespan for me. And that's having a 30 titan and high 20s hunter/warlock lol.
If others feel VOG justified a full-game's purchase good on them. To me that's a small amount of quality content for the price. It lays foundation on what the game could be if it were bigger, but at the expansion's asking price I'm more than a bit hesitant.
I'm not excusing it, I'm just saying anyone who plays the game, and avoids the community thread on the forum they frequent make no sense to me.
MrGreencastle
Member
This is my issue with the Expansion. Not that it's $40, or even that the digital Collector's Edition is the same price as the physical Collector's Edition and it has considerably less content. It makes no sense at all.
XANDER CAGE
Member
DeeJ's comment about "it'll probably sell for even more thank we're asking on eBay" is probably the dumbest response to this possible.
HalfBakedProphet
Member
All my friends still play and a new raid is enticing but the whole thing feels slimy
Woah man, stop by the OT, there is a massive community that has no problem playing mic-less. Hell half the time people are playing on their Vita, can't communicate, and basically don't even contribute since they are laggy as hell (;
If you have fun with the game, stop by, not one person in that thread would rule out playing with you.
Deej always came across as incredibly fake and sleezy.
Bungie seems like it has one of the worst community teams in the industry with people like him at the helm. Cannot believe he thought it'd be cool to pour kerosine on an already raging fire by comparing the value of a sold-out product based on ebay prices.
Exclusivity is what causes shit to be expensive on ebay, Deej. Not value.
Bungie seems like it has one of the worst community teams in the industry with people like him at the helm. Cannot believe he thought it'd be cool to pour kerosine on an already raging fire by comparing the value of a sold-out product based on ebay prices.
Exclusivity is what causes shit to be expensive on ebay, Deej. Not value.
This is my issue with the Expansion. Not that it's $40, or even that the digital Collector's Edition is the same price as the physical Collector's Edition and it has considerably less content. It makes no sense at all.
Exactly
It's insane
I had no problem with the Collector's Edition until I realized they didn't even make enough of them to satisfy demand. For them to put intentional supply constraints on the CE, and then charge $80 for the digital version is pretty slimy.
I may try to hit up a brick & mortar Gamestop tomorrow and see if they still have any pre-orders available.
I may try to hit up a brick & mortar Gamestop tomorrow and see if they still have any pre-orders available.
TheOctodad
Member
I play destiny a few times a week and other games as well. I'd be happy to play with you and I'm sure my friends would as well. Add me on PS4: The_Octodad
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
Yea, bragging about whales and scalpers wasn't exactly smart.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
For the 20 dollars you get to play the game a year earlier and enjoy things like hunting for relic iron and moving your single icebreaker/gjallarhorn back and forth between your characters by loading the tower over and over again.
This is my issue with the Expansion. Not that it's $40, or even that the digital Collector's Edition is the same price as the physical Collector's Edition and it has considerably less content. It makes no sense at all.
Yeap.
I just wanted to say VoG is better and bigger than a lot full games I already played in my life.
I could pay $60 just for it... so much fun and enjoyment.
And Destiny is not just VoG... it is a game by itself.
? What friggin games have you played that are under an hour? And how old are you? One raid in Destiny bigger and better than most games you have played in your entire life? What games? Flash games on PC?
I went to a GameSpot this Sunday and the employees there were talking about Destiny and had no idea that the CE was for sale.
Totally fair. We liked to go into the raids blind, it was a lot more fun that way, took longer but it was very rewarding. I wasn't insinuating that you were crapping on VoG. I was just providing context since it actually did take a whole weekend for the first clans to beat it. Trying to cool some people's jets on the $60 game not having the content, it did, if you enjoyed it. If you didn't enjoy it then its no different than someone buying any other $60 game and not enjoying it. Destiny gets more hate for being $60 than any other game than I can remember (besides The Order) and I think it is mostly unjustified. It wasn't this 200 hour epic people wanted, but a 20 hour game is still worth $60 to most people. And 20 hours would be speed-running all the content with one character and putting it down forever.
Totally agree the content was pretty feeble and grindy when the game first came out. The expansions were just OK. Crota's End was pretty fun, probably not worth $20, but the 5 different PoE arenas and the ToO PvP mode were worth $20 in HoW. So I think they are definitely righting the ship and am hopeful for TTK. I'll be there day one, but people that are on the fence should wait it out a month, but there's nothing wrong with being there day one.
I'm not a huge Jeff fan, but he is totally on point with this
shaunLEGEND
Member
I keep checking this thread to see if Luke replies. Count me in the group that's just disappointed and in disbelief. Keep toeing that company line Luke.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one completely confused by his claim that most games he plays are less than one or two hours.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
MrGreencastle
Member
For the 20 dollars you get to play the game a year earlier and enjoy things like hunting for relic iron and moving your single icebreaker/gjallarhorn back and forth between your characters by loading the tower over and over again.
What? I already paid $90 to do that. That doesn't make any sense.
Vire
Member
I'll be glad to play the new raid/strikes with you when the expansion comes out. Send me a friend request.
PSN: audioandy
I probably won't be playing too much Destiny till then though. Batman is gonna keep me busy.
x24hrs2livex
Banned
As much as I love me some Kate Upton, her presence in Destiny advertising would absolutely ruin the pristine image I have of her
You are right that Destiny has limited content (especialy story missions) compared with more established MMOs and that everyone starts on the same area. We can still speculate why this happened. I guess that Bungie wanted a simpler MMO design, easy to play by new people to the genre (console gamers), with light use of MMO and rpg mechanics with solid shooting (Cod and Halo gamers), a game basically to be appealing to console shooter fans.
We can say that Destiny is the Call of Duty of MMOs, easy to play and get hooked and that its designed for players that like to do the same things again and again, without caring for background story or lore or character progression (except damage upgrades)
firehawk12
Subete no aware
People are saying year 2 people get a discount on all the old stuff, but Luke's point is that they also missed out on all the year 1 stuff that will never happen again.
It's the same guy, he's just using his snark against journalists. It's funny to watch. lolI can't believe that this is the same Luke Smith from the 1UP Podcasts.
MrGreencastle
Member
Yeah, they get the old stuff for $20. That's fair. I'm not sure what you're getting at. That's not the point of that picture I made.
It's mostly frustrating, because the core elements are there for an amazing universe and experience...oh well.
SmartWaffles
Member
PR trainwreck after PR trainwreck for a mediocre game, what do you know.
Grinchy
Banned
Another annoying thing is that I can't pre-order the Legendary edition today to immediately start using the first two expansions while I wait for Taken King.
Why can't I do that? Because it would be $60 and it would save me $20 on the content.
However, I can buy the $80 pre-order and use the first 2 expansions right away, because that doesn't save me a dime. It's quite a coincidence that it's set up this way.
Why can't I do that? Because it would be $60 and it would save me $20 on the content.
However, I can buy the $80 pre-order and use the first 2 expansions right away, because that doesn't save me a dime. It's quite a coincidence that it's set up this way.
Princess Carl
Member
I'm still waiting to find out who the fuck decided to scrap Staten's story.
I Love destiny, and its the only game in the last few years that has kept my attention.
All my friends play it, and its such a social game.
This interview has left a bad taste in my mouth. I won't be pre ordering, but I'll wait and see what Bungie do to right this wrong.
TTK DLC is $69.95 AUD in Australia! I paid $60 for the base game!
All my friends play it, and its such a social game.
This interview has left a bad taste in my mouth. I won't be pre ordering, but I'll wait and see what Bungie do to right this wrong.
TTK DLC is $69.95 AUD in Australia! I paid $60 for the base game!
I can't believe that this is the same Luke Smith from the 1UP Podcasts.
Yeah, Luke from 1Up was never snarky or obstinate about his opinoins! Such a gentleman.
This seems like exactly the same guy to me.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
You're meant to just buy the TTK by itself. The CE is meant to convince people who, by virtue of not buying Destiny in year 1, have shown little interest in the game. They're assuming that everyone who is committed to Destiny is going to buy TTK anyway, whether or not they get some emotes.
Deej and Luke Smith also made it clear that they think that stuff is worth 40 dollars, and it's up to you to decide if you want to pay that.
It is, which is why it's funny.
WrenchNinja
Member
Have they ever had the expansion pass on sale?
Cheat Code
Member
I want to throw money at his face. When I say money, I mean a cannonball. When I say throw, I mean fire out of a cannon.
PapaEmeritus
Member
I find it hysterical that Luke Smith had to answer questions with answers like these. Back in the 1up days he would've been the one going on a rant of what bullshit this is. Money is money though, gotta do what you gotta do for a paycheck.
piratethingy
Self professed bad raider
Every word.
StUnNeR H2K
Member
I'm not happy with the price point and the treatment of players who have been playing/paying since day one. At the moment my money is going to other games this fall. Heck I've stopped playing Destiny after the announcement cause as someone who enjoys collecting/obtaining the maximum experience in the game I feel like that without repurchasing the content I already own that I'm missing out.
I know with Destiny 2 that I will just wait for the year one content to cut back on price.
I know with Destiny 2 that I will just wait for the year one content to cut back on price.
BeforeU
Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
This game was a biggest example of false marketing. Like seriously.
Different types of games and all funded differently but WoW has had mid expansion patches with more added content than Destiny has combined.
I would say that 150-200 hours of gameplay is good value for the asking price. The shooting in Destiny is solid and the game runs rock solid without any serious server issues since launch. In most popular MMOs the first two months of launch is a nightmare to play.
Bungie obviously removed the grinding with every expansion in order to help new players to achieve max level faster, so they can play together with their maxed friends. Its a mechanic that is used on every MMO and it is used with Destiny.
But with 450 hours on the game I think that you got your money worth my friend!
ethomaz
Banned
33 years old... not most but a lot of game I played was worst or small than VoG and I can make a big list of < 1 hour retail games (not all are bad games btw).
Destiny's VoG was really a unique experience for me... love it.
MrGreencastle
Member
Yeah and a result they're going to get a bunch of bitter people buying the $40 edition instead of a $60 one - if that. Some people won't buy it at all, and some people will buy the $80 one regardless. It's needlessly irritating a lot of people, though. Bad press for poor management of freaking bundlings. Makes no sense.
For the 20 dollars you get to play the game a year earlier and enjoy things like hunting for relic iron and moving your single icebreaker/gjallarhorn back and forth between your characters by loading the tower over and over again.
Johnny come lately buyers getting the game on the cheap should NEVER be given content that is locked away from existing players.
There getting the game on the cheap. That is their reward for waiting. Exclusive content should never be offered without letting existing players get it. Even if they charge a couple bucks to existing players. It's better than making them rebuy the game.