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[d9b]

Perhaps the time has come for the Greek military to re-establish a bit of "sanity" in the Greek political system, at least temporarily.

 

[vinnygambini]

Wouldn't that be called blackmail?

Got damn

 

[oti]

Perhaps the time has come for the Greek military to re-establish a bit of "sanity" in the Greek political system, at least temporarily.

What is wrong with you.

 

[Theonik]

These are clearly the results of austerity. Malnutrition and bad living conditions have lowered the decision making ability of the Greek government. Merkel should take responsibility.

 

[oti]

Confused? Here's a short summary:

 

[Pennywise]

What is Varoufakis gonna offer tomorrow ?
Half Life 3 ?


Fucking hell...

 

[Des0lar]

What is Varoufakis gonna offer tomorrow ?
Half Life 3 ?


Fucking hell...

Well he did work at Valve.....

 

[d9b]

So from tonight at midnight there will be no more financial support for Greece... Am I getting that right?

 

[Pennywise]

Well he did work at Valve.....

That's the reason for my remark

 

[Theonik]

What is Varoufakis gonna offer tomorrow ?
Half Life 3 ?

Debt relief or no Half-Life 3.

 

[darkwing]

wait, they were using the referendum as some sort of blackmail?

 

[Deleted member 231381]

History shows us that it is extremely likely that Greece will suffer hyperinflation if it defaults and leaves the Euro. To pretend otherwise is foolish.

Let's play "spot the default":

And no, I didn't imply that there was a "right" answer in this case, but I did say that Tsipras should LEAD. His personal opinions should not absolve him of the responsibility of running the country.

His responsibility is to the people who elected him. They didn't elect him to lead for the sake of leading, they elected him to lead Greece against austerity. If he cannot do that, he should NOT lead.

 

[Coriolanus]

Let's play "spot the default":

Truly, all examples that a default would harm greece for far longer than the 15+ years of austerity needed for the alternative.

 

[sflufan]

The chief of Austria's central bank (who sits on the ECB governing council) has called the impending non-payment of the IMF funds a "delay" rather than a "default".

 

[sflufan]

wait, they were using the referendum as some sort of blackmail?

Blackmail is such a harsh word to use.

Instead, think of it as a "flexible incentive".

 

[Theonik]

The chief of Austria's central bank (who sits on the ECB governing council) has called the impending non-payment of the IMF funds a "delay" rather than a "default".

It was never going to be a default today.

 

[Deleted member 231381]

Truly, all examples that a default would harm greece for far longer than the 15+ years of austerity needed for the alternative.

I know, right? You can clearly see how Nigeria's inflation rocketed after their default to inprecedented highs of 7%. If they'd just stayed on their current path, then all they'd have had would have been 76% inflation, a clearly manageable figure.

 

[Hammer24]

I'll say again: the first possible date Greece can default is July 8th. That's when they need money to pay a large chunk of privately held bonds.

 

[petran79]

Perhaps the time has come for the Greek military to re-establish a bit of "sanity" in the Greek political system, at least temporarily.

There is hardly money even for that! But we have Golden Dawn, dont worry....Same outcome really. If they get elected, Greece will be ousted from the EU anyway.

Truly, all examples that a default would harm greece for far longer than the 15+ years of austerity needed for the alternative.

All bank accounts savings will be withheld by the creditors and the EU funds as well.
We're not that far away really.

 

[chadskin]

NickMalkoutzis: Greek Deputy PM Dragasakis tells ERT he advised Tsipras to accept lenders' offer & suggests referendum could be called off #Greece #euro

https://twitter.com/nickmalkoutzis/status/615965893735120896

 

[ElTorro]

There is hardly money even for that! But we have Golden Dawn, dont worry....

That's one way to refinance Greece: wage a Blitzkrieg against the Turks in the east and secure Lebensraum for the people. Golden Dawn would dig that. Also another reason to keep dat defense budget.

 

[d9b]

That's one way to refinance Greece: wage a Blitzkrieg against the Turks in the east and secure Lebensraum for the people. Golden Dawn would dig that. Also another reason to keep dat defense budget.

 

[Theonik]

That's one way to refinance Greece: wage a Blitzkrieg against the Turks in the east and secure Lebensraum for the people. Golden Dawn would dig that. Also another reason to keep dat defense budget.

Finally the dream of recapturing Constantinople and east Thrace is fulfilled.

 

[oti]

Finally the dream of recapturing Constantinople and east Thrace is fulfilled.

The poli will be ours once again.

Spoiler

Which was the plan all along HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

 

[Nivash]

Gold for Gold! Golden Horn for the Golden Dawn!

 

[Ether_Snake]

Tsipras' reason for giving hints that the referendum could be cancelled is so that the Troika make the cancellation of the referendum conditional to further talks, at which point it would boost the no vote intentions.

 

[Ted Striker]

Finally the dream of recapturing Constantinople and east Thrace is fulfilled.

I'm not satisfied with anything less than the revival of Alexander's the Great empire.

 

[Negotiator]

But we have Golden Dawn, dont worry....Same outcome really. If they get elected, Greece will be ousted from the EU anyway.

Nah.

Hungary and their "dictator" (that's how Juncker calls their prime minister when he's drunk) say hi.

Perhaps the time has come for the Greek military to re-establish a bit of "sanity" in the Greek political system, at least temporarily.

Last time Greece had a coup d'état, it was approved by Uncle Sam. Not gonna happen this time.

 

[Theonik]

In other news that Greek Bailout fund is already at 350k and is getting so many hits IndieGoGo had to take down the page.

 

[mnz]

https://twitter.com/nickmalkoutzis/status/615965893735120896

Tsipras' reason for giving hints that the referendum could be cancelled is so that the Troika make the cancellation of the referendum conditional to further talks, at which point it would boost the no vote intentions.

This sounds like they are using the voice of their people as blackmail. Insanity. I really hope we get this stupid vote now.

 

[Ether_Snake]

This sounds like they are using the voice of their people as blackmail. Insanity. I really hope we get this stupid vote now.

It's the least they could do, the deal is bad, period.

 

[Tacitus_]

What the fuck is the Greek government smoking?

 

[Deleted member 231381]

This sounds like they are using the voice of their people as blackmail. Insanity. I really hope we get this vote now and nobody falls for that bs.

Why's it blackmail? It's not like Germany suffers if Greece goes through with this (well, the Euro gets rocked, but Germany has been pretty complicit in that).

 

[Theonik]

I'm not satisfied with anything less than the revival of Alexander's the Great empire.

I dunno, India has nukes and so does Pakistan.

 

[SymbiantXenos]

In other news that Greek Bailout fund is already at 350k and is getting so many hits IndieGoGo had to take down the page.

Plot twist, it's a secret additional fund for Shenmue 3.

 

[Nivash]

I'm not satisfied with anything less than the revival of Alexander's the Great empire.

Hey, why not? That would settle the Palestine question, deal with Isis, prevent Iran from getting the bomb and make Pakistan get along with India. That's got to result in support from the entire world.

I mean, what could go wrong? Oh sure, the inevitable cold war between Great Macedon and China or the battles on the plains of Germany-that-was with EuRussia will be nasty but that's for Future World to deal with.

 

[Ted Striker]

Appropriate pic

 

[oti]

Hey, why not? That would settle the Palestine question, deal with Isis, prevent Iran from getting the bomb and make Pakistan get along with India. That's got to result in support from the entire world.

I mean, what could go wrong? Oh sure, the inevitable cold war between Great Macedon and China or the battles on the plains of Germany-that-was with EuRussia will be nasty but that's for Future World to deal with.

Now-me ain't don't care about future-them. Let's do it.

 

[mnz]

Why's it blackmail? It's not like Germany suffers if Greece goes through with this (well, the Euro gets rocked, but Germany has been pretty complicit in that).

Well atleast Varoufakis and Dragasakis seem to think that the Eurogroup (please don't make this only about Germany) would prefer not to have the referendum. Even to a degree that V thinks he can get a debt haircut if he calls it off. But apparently that's not working out for them at all.
I feel like the Greek people should be pissed off at the fact that they're used like this.

 

[petran79]

That's one way to refinance Greece: wage a Blitzkrieg against the Turks in the east and secure Lebensraum for the people. Golden Dawn would dig that. Also another reason to keep dat defense budget.

Better leave those east regions be. With us to rule them, they would be doomed!

 

[Deleted member 231381]

Well atleast Varoufakis and Dragasakis seem to think that the Eurogroup (please don't make this only about Germany) would prefer not to have the referendum. Even to a degree that V thinks he can get a debt haircut if he calls it off. But apparently that's not working out for them at all.
I feel like the Greek people should be pissed off at the fact that they're used like this.

I mean, of course the troika don't want the referendum to happen. If the vote is a no, they've been pretty definitively rejected and they can't spin it as "ideological government driving country over the edge" when it has democratic backing. The Greek people aren't being used. They voted in this government to get them the least austere deal. Tsipras is doing everything in his means to acheive that.

 

[ramuh]

It's time Greece.. It's time to break the chains that's holding you back from your full potential. Drachma..Drachma...Drachma... listen to those chants and vote No.

 

[hydrophilic attack]

Let's play "spot the default":

His responsibility is to the people who elected him. They didn't elect him to lead for the sake of leading, they elected him to lead Greece against austerity. If he cannot do that, he should NOT lead.

These graphs, to me, look like an argument in favour of default.

 

[Ted Striker]

I dunno, India has nukes and so does Pakistan.

We'll use our mighty spears to intercept them

 

[Deleted member 231381]

These graphs, to me, looks like an argument in favour of default.

Hmm, that's odd. They do rather, don't they? ¯\_(&#12484_/¯

 

[kiguel182]

Can someone explain to me what happens with hyper inflation and how does that compare to the 15+ years of austerity?

Some of this economics talk is totally going over my head.

 

[Theonik]

Plot twist, it's a secret additional fund for Shenmue 3.

Damn. EXPOSED.

 

[ElTorro]

We'll use our mighty spears to intercept them

In a 2006 history documentary by Zack Snyder I learned that Greece only needs 300 men to defeat an enemy anyway.

 

[roytheone]

These graphs, to me, look like an argument in favour of default.

How so? You really think prices of products increasing by 50% within a year is in any way good?

 

[oti]

Damn. EXPOSED.

Code OMEGA, I repeat, Code OMEGA.
You know what that means fellow Greeks. Go to the predetermined location and DON'T forget to put Tsatsiki on your important body parts. Remember your training.