Gay marriage salt thread

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Does anyone keep shitty people on their social media as friends, only to see what stupid shit they'll post for some masochistic sort of entertainment, like me? I think it may be a problem. Lol.
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The more friends they have the more people they think support them. It's much better to show them that there are less people that think like them than they think rather than staying quiet for entertainment IMO.
 
To be fair about the salt, this is basically America telling religious people their religion, something they base their lives around, is wrong. You'd expect them to be mad.

[---edit, maybe not quite that far]

It's also going to get blamed for unrelated incidents in the future, which is going to be nasty.
Of course you're going to get your usual wackos come out of the woodwork, but not all Christians are bent out of shape over this. I come from a very religious family and they aren't freaking out about this ( thankfully ) . .

Carry on with the fun laughing at the extremists by all means. Just know that there are plenty of level headed Christians as well.
 
To my fellow homos: is anyone else exhausted—like, physically and emotionally drained—by the onslaught of insane hyper-Christian (well, hyper-evangelical Tea Party Christian) garbage flooding the internet?

I'm being forced to be the spokesperson for all things queer and it's like, I just want to have some coffee or eat my lunch or dork around on GAF without having to be so incredibly political all the god damn time (and I love politics!).
 
How to blow gay marriage opponents' minds.

Step 1: Ask gay marriage opponent if they believe in the religious liberties of Episcopalians.
Step 2: Mention that the Episcopalians have voted to allow religious gay marriage ceremonies in their churches.
Step 3: Say that for gay Episcopalians, it is a sincerely held religious belief that they should be allowed to marry.
Step 4: Ask again if they believe in the religious liberties of Episcopalians.
Step 5: Observe insane attempt to rationalize.

Problem is, with many spouting that the US government's job is to uphold christian ideals, it seems they are outright saying seperation of church and state should not exist (and it should be their religion that dominates state). So I'm not sure they'd say they do believe in the liberties of any religion they view as wrong (if they fell for it and thought the Episopalians did not endorse gay marriage they'd probably turn around when you said they allowed it and say that they are wrong and that it is against God's word and they don't support it).
 
Problem is, with many spouting that the US government's job is to uphold christian ideals, it seems they are outright saying seperation of church and state should not exist (and it should be their religion that dominates state). So I'm not sure they'd say they do believe in the liberties of any religion they view as wrong (if they fell for it and thought the Episopalians did not endorse gay marriage they'd probably turn around when you said they allowed it and say that they are wrong and that it is against God's word and they don't support it).

Unfortunately there are a lot of people who don't understand or don't care that the US is a secular nation and is in no way obligated to uphold laws for religious reasons.
 
(if they fell for it and thought the Episopalians did not endorse gay marriage they'd probably turn around when you said they allowed it and say that they are wrong and that it is against God's word and they don't support it).

Like I said. Step 5 was to observe the insane attempt to rationalize. =P
 
Went to Chick Fil A today, and it was FULL. I brought my iPad to type on and sat in the only free spot, a booth. Now, I wasn't the only queer person there, but I wasn't wearing pride colors (I'm not fully out, so only for special occasions). A 20something girl asks if she can sit at my booth, and I tell her I don't mind at all. Then, 2 guys walk out of the bathroom, holding hands.

She looks at me and says "ugh, I can't get away from it; I thought this was a safe heaven from... That".

I asked her what she meant, and she clarified the gay people. "It's like, that corner is like a full-on gay booth, we shouldn't have to stand for it."

It was then when I noticed there was a bible on the seat next to me. You see, on Wednesdays a lot of people from a bible group come to that CFA since it is near the local churches. I think it was left behind and assumed it was mine. As she went on, while being involved in her convo a bit, she finally gave me the opening I wanted and asked "what do you think?".

I looked at her and said "best start believing in queer booths... You're in one!" And then I put on a shit-eating grin.

She just left. Left her food and left the restaurant; she didn't touch it either, so when I was positive she was gone gone, I asked for a bag and put the cool wrap and fries in it, and gave it to the hungry hobo outside.

At least a hobo got fed because of it.

Bravo good sir! There's no way I'd ever be so witty on the spot like that!
 
Probably too late but hit her with the clip from The West Wing where Martin Sheen absolutely destroys a talk radio bigot by quoting Leviticus chapter and verse. If fundamentalist Christians want to cite the old testament, they damn well better follow all of the prescribed rules. Not just the ones they conveniently pick and choose.

I think I'm finally going to start watching that show soon. I always wanted to, but never got around to it. Love that clip.
 
So I'm just confused as all heck now.

I changed my profile picture on FaceBook to the same one I have here and a friend of mine, who is the most Christian person you could ever meet, liked the picture. I don't know whether to think he genuinely thinks #MarriageEquality is a good thing (Least likely) or he just likes liking things. Or he actually has no idea what the rainbow even means. Or he just likes Abed.

I dunno.
 
Preface; I grew up in a VERY strict traditional Roman Catholic family. Latin masses and all that fun stuff. I have strayed away from it and was ecstatic for the Marriage ruling this past week. Unfortunately, I saw a lot of stuff like this from my family. This was my cousin's post :/ It feels really bad to be alienated from family over something like this.

 
Preface; I grew up in a VERY strict traditional Roman Catholic family. Latin masses and all that fun stuff. I have strayed away from it and was ecstatic for the Marriage ruling this past week. Unfortunately, I saw a lot of stuff like this from my family. This was my cousin's post :/ It feels really bad to be alienated from family over something like this.

It's so amusing to me when people say things like "I am not judging you, _____" then follow it up with something incredibly judgmental. Did you unfriend them?
 
Preface; I grew up in a VERY strict traditional Roman Catholic family. Latin masses and all that fun stuff. I have strayed away from it and was ecstatic for the Marriage ruling this past week. Unfortunately, I saw a lot of stuff like this from my family. This was my cousin's post :/ It feels really bad to be alienated from family over something like this.
Fortunately that would make it very easy for me to clean out my friends list. I only friend people who I know in real life, but if any of them were actually like this I'd be glad to be rid of them. And this would make it so easy. Cousin or not honestly.
 
It's so amusing to me when people say things like "I am not judging you, _____" then follow it up with something incredibly judgmental. Did you unfriend them?

I was EXTREMELY worried to post my opinions on the matter before that. But after I saw that post I rainbow'd up my profile picture and posted how happy I was for marriage equality. He unfriended me :P I just thought it was ironic for him to be so judgmental seeing as his own family (my aunt, uncle and cousins) didn't attend his wedding because his wife was a different sect of Catholicism and didn't want to convert. Really pathetic shit like that happens in my family all the time. Fortunately, my immediate family (brothers and sisters) are much more open minded.
 
I was EXTREMELY worried to post my opinions on the matter before that. But after I saw that post I rainbow'd up my profile picture and posted how happy I was for marriage equality. He unfriended me :P I just thought it was ironic for him to be so judgmental seeing as his own family (my aunt, uncle and cousins) didn't attend his wedding because his wife was a different sect of Catholicism and didn't want to convert. Really pathetic shit like that happens in my family all the time. Fortunately, my immediate family (brothers and sisters) are much more open minded.

Well it's a good thing your immediate family is more open minded. Sucks about the rest though. :( Pretty much only my brother and his wife are for gay marriage in my family - the rest are very... conservative and super religious.
They still have no clue I'm gay. :(
 
Well it's a good thing your immediate family is more open minded. Sucks about the rest though. :( Pretty much only my brother and his wife are for gay marriage in my family - the rest are very... conservative and super religious.
They still have no clue I'm gay. :(

It's sad because I loved growing up in such a HUGE family. From just my Nono and Nona (Italian for Grandpa and grandma) I have 3 aunts and 4 uncles. Minus my uncle who is a priest and my family who has 7 total children, all my aunts and uncles have 13+ children. The family is huge but events like this make it feel like that isn't so.

Fortunately that would make it very easy for me to clean out my friends list. I only friend people who I know in real life, but if any of them were actually like this I'd be glad to be rid of them. And this would make it so easy. Cousin or not honestly.

My brother said it best to me, "I don't have to be tolerant of intolerance." Really summed up how I feel about all this right now.
 
Went to Chick Fil A today, and it was FULL. I brought my iPad to type on and sat in the only free spot, a booth. Now, I wasn't the only queer person there, but I wasn't wearing pride colors (I'm not fully out, so only for special occasions). A 20something girl asks if she can sit at my booth, and I tell her I don't mind at all. Then, 2 guys walk out of the bathroom, holding hands.

She looks at me and says "ugh, I can't get away from it; I thought this was a safe heaven from... That".

I asked her what she meant, and she clarified the gay people. "It's like, that corner is like a full-on gay booth, we shouldn't have to stand for it."

It was then when I noticed there was a bible on the seat next to me. You see, on Wednesdays a lot of people from a bible group come to that CFA since it is near the local churches. I think it was left behind and assumed it was mine. As she went on, while being involved in her convo a bit, she finally gave me the opening I wanted and asked "what do you think?".

I looked at her and said "best start believing in queer booths... You're in one!" And then I put on a shit-eating grin.

She just left. Left her food and left the restaurant; she didn't touch it either, so when I was positive she was gone gone, I asked for a bag and put the cool wrap and fries in it, and gave it to the hungry hobo outside.

At least a hobo got fed because of it.

haha nice
 
Went to Chick Fil A today, and it was FULL. I brought my iPad to type on and sat in the only free spot, a booth. Now, I wasn't the only queer person there, but I wasn't wearing pride colors (I'm not fully out, so only for special occasions). A 20something girl asks if she can sit at my booth, and I tell her I don't mind at all. Then, 2 guys walk out of the bathroom, holding hands.

She looks at me and says "ugh, I can't get away from it; I thought this was a safe heaven from... That".

I asked her what she meant, and she clarified the gay people. "It's like, that corner is like a full-on gay booth, we shouldn't have to stand for it."

It was then when I noticed there was a bible on the seat next to me. You see, on Wednesdays a lot of people from a bible group come to that CFA since it is near the local churches. I think it was left behind and assumed it was mine. As she went on, while being involved in her convo a bit, she finally gave me the opening I wanted and asked "what do you think?".

I looked at her and said "best start believing in queer booths... You're in one!" And then I put on a shit-eating grin.

She just left. Left her food and left the restaurant; she didn't touch it either, so when I was positive she was gone gone, I asked for a bag and put the cool wrap and fries in it, and gave it to the hungry hobo outside.

At least a hobo got fed because of it.

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What a nice gesture of yours. KUDOS!
 
Where have been people getting rainbow-fied avatars again? :x Maybe Poro Ziggs would look swag with a rainbow tongue or something, idk
 
I grew-up in a pretty devout Roman Catholic family, too. Went to Catholic grade school and high school. I'm parran (godfather) to two of my nieces. My family has pretty much all moved on for this issue, remarkably. I think seeing me and my partner, along with a cousin and her long-term partner, has helped folks see things differently; the stereotypes and villification didn't match what their own eyes were seeing. And while other, traditional marriages formed and fell-apart, our couplehoods endured on over the years.

My Maw-Maw was oddly liberal about gay people, even back in the 90s. She was incredibly devout - that kind of devout where you know as soon as you walk into her living room. Crosses, Jesus portraits, TV mass, knitting relics for the local parish, etc etc. She was the spiritual matriarch of the family.

Despite this devotion, she always held that gay men had an important role to play in family life. The way she spoke of them reminded me of how Anthony Kennedy writes about "dignity." She had a friend whose gay son took really good care of her well into old age, and I think that helped her form a really strong, positive iimage of gay men in general. And though none of her 5 sons was, she frequently said that she would've loved it had one been gay. As spiritual matriarch of the family, she'd police us if anything too unChristlike was said about gay folks.

She passed years ago, and I still regret not coming out to her. She showed me that, yes, it is possible to be Catholic and hold a positive image of LGBT people. No coincidence that I'm thinking a lot about her over the past few days.
 
Preface; I grew up in a VERY strict traditional Roman Catholic family. Latin masses and all that fun stuff. I have strayed away from it and was ecstatic for the Marriage ruling this past week. Unfortunately, I saw a lot of stuff like this from my family. This was my cousin's post :/ It feels really bad to be alienated from family over something like this.

As someone who also grew up in an extremely strict catholic family, you have my sympathies. I have no family whatsoever that I can relate to on facebook or in real life. They're all pretty hardcore when it comes to god, guns and 'murica. Feels bad being the outsider. I can't go to any kind of family gathering without feeling like I'm some kind of freak for being as socially liberal as I am. Practically every conversation with them is a non-starter for me, unless I wanna hear them endlessly rant about how "them libs are destroying the country" every day.
 
Well speaking of family you can't really relate to. My two Christian half sisters (one I've recently met, the other I haven't yet) posted this comic on their page


On one hand, I'm glad they're not clutching their bibles and jumping on the whole "death to gays" bandwagon. But I'm sad that both they and this comic only see homosexuality as a lustful sexual relationship and not as loving partnership. Like they just can't seem to fathom the idea. I'm straight btw.
 
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