More Americans watched Women's World Cup final than the NBA Finals or the Stanley Cup

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Think his point was that Soccer can draw big for one night but people will go back to treating Women's Soccer as something they don't care about for the next 3 years and 11 months. Which is unfortunately true. Even in here people are hoping for a boost to MLS...

The timing of the game couldn't have been any more perfect either. July 4th weekend is the perfect time to get some ratings for a USA final in any sport. Still awesome to see though.
 
Think his point was that Soccer can draw big for one night but people will go back to treating Women's Soccer as something they don't care about for the next 3 years and 11 months. Which is unfortunately true. Even in here people are hoping for a boost to MLS...

The timing of the game couldn't have been any more perfect either. July 4th weekend is the perfect time to get some ratings for a USA final in any sport. Still awesome to see though.

I was making a jab at his dismissive first part of his post.
 
I mean I really do hope soccer gets a little push in this country. I just don't see it being anywhere close to any major sports. It's like WNBA tier.
 
Great news overall. Now maybe we can stop with the "no one in the US cares about soccer."

Of course there are people that care. The problem is that there just aren't many of them. That's why people always ask "Will this change things for soccer in the US?" after every World Cup. Last years MLS finals had fewer than 2m people watch it. And that's actually an improvement over previous years. The biggest women's league in the US only has a couple of their games televised a year, while most of them are only available to watch in Youtube. No one doubts that soccer can put up big ratings during the World Cup. The doubt comes in when it comes to it putting up big numbers outside of those events.
 
The Winter Olympics averaged 20M+ viewers.

Does that mean snowboarding is going to emerge as a popular competitive sport?
 
Think his point was that Soccer can draw big for one night but people will go back to treating Women's Soccer as something they don't care about for the next 3 years and 11 months. Which is unfortunately true. Even in here people are hoping for a boost to MLS...

Aren't the matches during the Olympic games well watched?
 
Seems like getting an MLS team to places like St Louis should be high on the agenda.

It'll happen the question is how long it'll take. This is our first year in the USL and while the stadium only holds 5,000 it's basically been sold out the entire season.
 
The Winter Olympics averaged 20M+ viewers.

Does that mean snowboarding is going to emerge as a popular competitive sport?

Your point?

Who exactly are you arguing with here?

If someone posted that the NBA finals had record viewership, would you question of the d league attendance is going to improve? Of course not because nobody is taking about that.

Why do some of you look at a fact and try to make it into a fight, like it's insulting your honor?

The fact is, a women's sport match had enormous viewership. Let's celebrate rather than fight strawmen.
 
Football (soccer) is my favorite sport, but to be fair, what other event lends itself so well to just watch the final without having followed it other than World Cups. It's not team vs team, is country vs country, that's all you need to know.

edit; plus the national team was playing on top of that.
 
NBA Finals and Stanley Cup are best out of 7. World Cup final is just one game.

Bad comparison.

Also soccer beating hockey isn't saying much in America.
 
The Winter Olympics averaged 20M+ viewers.

Does that mean snowboarding is going to emerge as a popular competitive sport?

The Olympics has multiple events at the same time though. It's not like all 20M+ were watching snowboarding.

Perhaps a better comparison would be the Canada/U.S. gold medal hockey match at the Vancouver 2010 Winter Olympics. It was a single match (rather than a series), the tournament final, only happens every 4 years, and a U.S. national team was playing. Average viewership was 27.6 million according to NBC.
http://sports.espn.go.com/olympics/winter/2010/icehockey/news/story?id=4957570

Anyways, it's very impressive that women's soccer cracked 20 million.
 
Your point?

Who exactly are you arguing with here?

If someone posted that the NBA finals had record viewership, would you question of the d league attendance is going to improve? Of course not because nobody is taking about that.

Why do some of you look at a fact and try to make it into a fight, like it's insulting your honor?

The fact is, a women's sport match had enormous viewership. Let's celebrate rather than fight strawmen.

i don't know, i would assume he's arguing with the OP, or the actual title of the thread? Things that should be pretty clear to most anyone, although i guess that assumption was wrong.
 
I am not an expert on the sport but I have to say the lack of people randomly rolling around on the ground after being grazed by a shoulder is rather refreshing when watching the women. It's like men's soccer has ragdoll physics.

Men's soccer is mostly garbage for that reason imo. Watching the Brazil - Germany game last year was just sad. The Brazilian team looked like such a bunch of little crybabies. I mean grow the fuck up and play the game, don't act like a pathetic little shit just because you're losing badly. "The beautiful game" my ass. Japan was getting dominated and their goalkeeper was understandably upset, but the team wasn't acting like they were about to be executed at dawn. The women players just seem tougher overall. That girl from Germany had blood streaming down her face but she kept fighting. There were a lot of times where there was contact and the players would just keep going or help each other up as opposed to flopping on the ground every time and howling in pain every time someone breaths on you.
 
You can kinda tell who actually knows and watches soccer and the casual fans who only watched because the US was in the final. Aint nobody trying to watch regular season women's soccer.
 
Women's soccer is not bad to watch.

For tennis I like both men and women. For volleyball I actually prefer women (longer rallies).

Women's basketball is definitely less good.
 
You named the few women's sports that are actually watchable. Soccer is def better than WNBA just because the gap isn't as obvious.
 
Patriotism... People watched becuase it had a flag attached to it not because of the sport. Soccer isn't going to grow from this if anyone thinks that.

I'm glad I didn't watch a second.
 
Patriotism... People watched becuase it had a flag attached to it not because of the sport. Soccer isn't going to grow from this if anyone thinks that.

I'm glad I didn't watch a second.

Considering this doubled the 2011 World Cup Final, I'd say it's growing just fine.
 
Yesterday's game was quite competitive. Helped that both teams played a great game.

You could say that about most women's sports though. I mean the college World Series is pretty damn competitive too if you don't mind them throwing softballs. Women's soccer is a big big step down in speed, power and skill level. That doesn't mean it can't be entertaining. I just don't see this as some indicAtor that soccer or women's sports in general should be optimistic.
 
Great news overall. Now maybe we can stop with the "no one in the US cares about soccer."

Why is that? Because people watch a game or two every couple of years when the team is doing well?

Where's the big MLS boost we've been hearing about for 20 years? Where's the massive anticipation for the Gold Cup?

Considering this doubled the 2011 World Cup Final, I'd say it's growing just fine.

Maybe if that was the only thing that mattered this would make sense.
 
You could say that about most women's sports though. I mean the college World Series is pretty damn competitive too if you don't mind them throwing softballs. Women's soccer is a big big step down in speed, power and skill level. That doesn't mean it can't be entertaining. I just don't see this as some indicAtor that soccer or women's sports in general should be optimistic.

Key in your statement is "throw softballs". As far as I am aware, there is no difference in rules between mens and womens soccer. That's what makes it all the more interesting. Maybe WNBA is same way. Would have to check. But to answer your point, only other women's competitive sport I watch is Olympic/X-Games stuff.
 
Uhhh NBA Finals and Stanley cups are 4-7 games

World cup finals & Super bowl are 1 game

easier to watch and plan

Well, NBA finals and Stanley cup are a series, world cup final a single game and it's not anual

Saying it did better than the NBA finals is generous. It averaged nearly 20 million viewers for six games, most of which were during weekdays.

I don't get it. Surely there were more games in this tournament than this, why not compare average viewership instead of this one game versus the average of a 6-7 games series.

Stat seems cherry picked.

That's awesome. But the comparison isn't completely fair. If the NBA Finals was one game the viewership would inflate, and if the WC final was a best-of-seven series the average would be lower than a one game total.

NBA Finals and Stanley Cup are best out of 7. World Cup final is just one game.

Bad comparison.

I hope no one compares the Superbowl to the MLB World Series ever again.
 
Apparently, people become sports media journalists when they fail statistics.

Apples, meet oranges.

Anybody wanna guess what the US overnights would have been had the final been Germany vs. Japan?
 
Quite a few people keep ignoring the fact that this match up was the same teams as the previous final but it doubled the viewership. That is a sign of notable growth, regardless of comparisons to other sports.

It's a marathon, not a sprint.
 
Is it my imagination or do various newspapers that seem to give the Superbowl winners half of the front page any given year seem to only give this win maybe a little space in the corner of the front page redirecting you to a quarter page somewhere else in the paper?
 
Comparison chart:

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http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/201...-largest-soccer-audience-ever-single-network/
 
Is it my imagination or do various newspapers that seem to give the Superbowl winners half of the front page any given year seem to only give this win maybe a little space in the corner of the front page redirecting you to a quarter page somewhere else in the paper?

I'm going to chalk this up as: Women's sports outside of an Olympic context
 
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