Bam Bam Baklava
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What's there to fight?
More Americans watched Women's World Cup final than the NBA Finals or the Stanley Cup
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What's there to fight?
American Eskimo
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The strawman you've created apparently
Squirrel Killer
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Right, because running distance is the best measure of "wear on body."
terrisus
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Indeed.
No one has said anything about revolution.
Except New England.
And the 4th of July.
Bam Bam Baklava
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You mean there isn't 100 articles during every world cup about how soccer is finally gonna get popular? Gets pretty old after a while seeing the desperation.
terrisus
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So take it up with them, not the posters in this thread.
No one here's talking about a "revolution" except you.
Bam Bam Baklava
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I suppose if we're gonna harp on semantics we may as well take an official roll call and get people to go down on paper whether they are or not talking about a revolution.
Soccer has been growing steadily world cup year or not. MLS is gaining every year is both fans and quality, there is more and more access to the highest level European leagues on cable/dish and many of the kids I know would far prefer to watch Chelsea or Barcelona than some random baseball game. That would have never been the case when I was growing up.
It might be a bit hyperbolic to latch on to one event that "puts soccer on the map!" but the current gains seem to point an inevitable conclusion...
terrisus
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How is it not popular?
MLS ratings don't exemplify the general popularity of the sport.
Bam Bam Baklava
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It's only a strawman because people decided to harp on a word used as an exaggeration because apparently there's nothing better to respond with? A strawman of your own creation I suppose. But I'm done with nonsense as well. Good luck fellas.
terrisus
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You say you want a revolution?
Well, you know, we all want to change the world.
Got to get to Revolution 9 first.
Anyway, back to discussing Football.
SlickShoesRUCrazy
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I didn't watch either
But they don't. Americans only watch events where they're playing, are favored in, or finals because of their importance, for example, more watched the US Canada ice hockey finale in Sochi or Vancouver Olympics than the Stanley Cup finals that year. Overall, very few Americans watched any of the other soccer matches or watch MLS.
They even discussed this during 2010. Canadians tuned in en masse to watch a Sweden Vs Russia hockey match, but unless the US was playing, there wouldn't be the same level of engagement amongst Americans for any sport. Only hardcore basketball fans might watch a Spain Vs Argentina match, hardcore baseball fans a Cuba Vs Japan etc.
All this proves is, when the US is in a finals and AR heavy favorites, they tune in, which we knew.
The Sarcastic Dude
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This. If it wasn't the US, barely any Americans would give a flying fuck about the game.
terrisus
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So neither of you read the thread beyond the OP then?
andthebeatgoeson
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I'm impressed. Soccer is on the rise and will pay dividends with the young generation now. I could see it challenging one of the big 4 on 20 years time.
Hell, with current immigration patterns, 20 years is conservative. And with more kids not playing football, soccer has to play it's cards right. Here's hoping.
Alligatorjandro
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I only watched because of it was America
Delicious Waffles
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But you're both wrong. Just because your opinion of it is negative doesn't mean it holds true for others.
Here's my opinion: I think basketball and hockey are boring as sin. People like to mock soccer because of the "flopping." Watch an NBA game and you'll see just as much, if not more, over its entirety. At least NHL has fighting to liven it up. If it didn't, I'd see players pressed up against the boards trying to dig the puck out more than actual action.
Should my negative opinion of both sports deem it less worthy of interest for others? Of course not.
orthodoxy1095
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I'm a Japanese-American so I would have watched it if it was only Japan, but if it was neither Japan or the USA, I might not have watched. I know the only reason I could get my family to care as because of the USA
Alex_Mexico
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If argue it's already beating hockey but yeah in 20 years soccer will be a powerhouse in the U.S.. I not only see Soccer as the country's second most popular sport in 20 years but I see the MLS growing to be one of the top leagues in the world giving Spain, England, Italy and Germany if not something to fight against, at least something to be worried about.
terrisus
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With Steven Gerrard coming over, the Sky's the limit! :þ
Alex_Mexico
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Seriously. The MLS is doing everything right and setting the foundation for a powerhouse of a league in a decade or two. It'll only grow more rapidly if the U.S. gets the 2022 or 2026 Men's World Cup (which I'm willing to bet they'll get one of those).
Compare that to 1994 when there wasn't even a professional soccer league to speak of. It will be an interesting comparison to see the U.S. Evolution between their two WCs.
Speaking of Canada, listening to the radio this morning. Sounds like the final did 2.2 million viewers. Game 6 of the Stanley Cup playoffs was something like 2.6-2.7. Playoff games between Ottawa-Montreal was around 3.2.
The Canadian Quarter Final match had 3.8 million people watching, which was similar to last years Grey Cup (CFL Final)
Holy shit, this.
Why do so many more men dive during soccer matches compared to the women?
Aeriscloud
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Oh, so that's what the google banner was.
massivekettle
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Same phenomenon in Canada as well, by the way. Didn't the last Canada match have twice the ratings as the WC Final?
I bet the Stanley Cup ratings would be much, much higher in Canada if it involved one, if not two Canadian teams too...
makingmusic476
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It's already gaining on some other prominent leagues in average attendance.
Here's MLS's four years of highest average attendance:
Here's MLS's average attendance from last season compared to other leagues throughout the world:
So far this season, MLS has averaged 20,979 per game across 20 clubs, thanks to the contraction of Chivas USA and the addition of NYCFC and OCSC. That puts it quite close to Seria A and Ligue 1.
It won't be long before MLS eclipses both those leagues and starts gaining on Liga MX in average and total attendance, as new teams are added (Atlanta, LAII, Miami, Minnesota), new stadiums are built (DC, Boston), and the sport's popularity in general continues to grow.
More attendance means more money to attract international stars and more money to spend on our academy system and grow talent here at home. As MLS's talent level matures, it will probably one day be able to capitalize on the fact that it's an English-speaking league, allowing it to attain more lucrative international broadcasting deals like the EPL, which currently enjoys more international attention than the Bundesliga, et al. And hell, pre-existing Spanish language broadcasts and convenient timezones may allow the league to achieve a notable presence throughout the rest of the Americas as well.
Is there a USL or NASL team near you? A lot of the MLS expansion teams come from one of those leagues and they're also expanding.
Le_Samourai
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Exploitations of the rules, and since they play at a way higher level they take all the advantages availables to them.
How often do 350lb men with the acceleration of a freight train (literally) smash into the average soccer player?
Football is the most brutual team sport on the planet. Nothing else even comes close. So much so there's a decent chance the game won't even be around for too much longer (or if it is, in an unrecognizable form).
Turbowaffles
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All this does is make me feel shame for my fellow Americans who didn't watch the Stanley Cup. :/
Hockey is fucking great. What's wrong with you, America?
Hockey is fucking great. What's wrong with you, America?
Retromelon
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Did we americans win? I didnt catch it
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