More Americans watched Women's World Cup final than the NBA Finals or the Stanley Cup

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Cherry picking stats: America's greatest sport of all.

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Comparison chart:

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http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/201...-largest-soccer-audience-ever-single-network/

Makes me wonder what the numbers on that Portugal / USA game would have been had it been on ABC rather than ESPN.

It's good news for women's soccer - don't get me wrong, you're not going to have a league form up, etc etc. But it's good for growth of the game in the US on an amateur level. EA adding the teams to the latest version seems like a fairly brilliant move.
 
It's good news for women's soccer - don't get me wrong, you're not going to have a league form up, etc etc. But it's good for growth of the game in the US on an amateur level. EA adding the teams to the latest version seems like a fairly brilliant move.

A league already exists.
 
Cool news. I couldn't bring myself to watch it, however. I think I watched a total of 20 seconds :) I was really into the men's WC though.
 
To everyone saying comparing the two doesn't make sense since the NBA finals and Stanley Cup finals are a series of games, what if you were to average them out?

I think this game would still top both.
 
To everyone saying comparing the two doesn't make sense since the NBA finals and Stanley Cup finals are a series of games, what if you were to average them out?

I think this game would still top both.

The argument is that there's less interest in watching 4-7 games rather than a 1-game winner-take-all match.
So, the theory would be, that if the NBA or NHL finals were just 1 game (and not just a Game 7 situation, since that involves an investment for the 6 games prior), it would be higher.

Yet people have no problem comparing the Superbowl to the MLB World Series.

'Muricans gonna 'Murica
 
To everyone saying comparing the two doesn't make sense since the NBA finals and Stanley Cup finals are a series of games, what if you were to average them out?

I think this game would still top both.

What if we averaged total playoff ratings vs total tournament viewership? How many people watched England v Japan?
 
What if we averaged total playoff ratings vs total tournament viewership? How many people watched England v Japan?

Could do that too. How many people sat through those earlier round 4-0 blowouts in the NBA playoffs this year?

I find it astonishing why people get so defensive about soccer gaining traction here.
 
Well, NBA finals and Stanley cup are a series, world cup final a single game and it's not anual

Real talk: why aren't the soccer finals a series, even if it's just best of 3 or 5? It's not like it's that much wear on your body, especially if hockey and basketball guys can do 7 game series. I'm happy USA won but it feels kinda like a bit of a fluke.
 
Real talk: why aren't the soccer finals a series, even if it's just best of 3 or 5? It's not like it's that much wear on your body, especially if hockey and basketball guys can do 7 game series. I'm happy USA won but it feels kinda like a bit of a fluke.

When it comes to certain tournaments, they have a home and away leg throughout.
 
Real talk: why aren't the soccer finals a series, even if it's just best of 3 or 5? It's not like it's that much wear on your body, especially if hockey and basketball guys can do 7 game series. I'm happy USA won but it feels kinda like a bit of a fluke.

Real talk: why aren't the American Football finals a series, even if it's just best of 3 or 5? It's not like it's that much wear on your body, especially if hockey and basketball guys can do 7 game series. I'm happy WhoeverTheHeck won but it feels kinda like a bit of a fluke.
 
Real talk: why aren't the American Football finals a series, even if it's just best of 3 or 5? It's not like it's that much wear on your body, especially if hockey and basketball guys can do 7 game series. I'm happy WhoeverTheHeck won but it feels kinda like a bit of a fluke.
No wear on your body?

Ok.
 
Real talk: why aren't the American Football finals a series, even if it's just best of 3 or 5? It's not like it's that much wear on your body, especially if hockey and basketball guys can do 7 game series. I'm happy WhoeverTheHeck won but it feels kinda like a bit of a fluke.

The New England Patriots

And I would be all for a Super Bowl series, or Floyd-Mayweather best of 3, but it really just isn't possible for some sports. I think soccer is one sport where it would be possible.
 
I think soccer is one sport where it would be possible.

Because you don't watch a lot of professional soccer at the highest levels.

Hockey and Basketball courts are several times smaller than soccer fields, they take more breaks and they play for a lot less minutes.

The fluke thing was called when Fifa/Uefa decided to try the silver and golden goal rule, now that was bulls*.
 
Slowly but surely I've been more and more interested in soccer/football. Largely thanks to some friends of mine and moving to Seattle. It's a pretty great sport.
 
Real talk: why aren't the American Football finals a series, even if it's just best of 3 or 5? It's not like it's that much wear on your body, especially if hockey and basketball guys can do 7 game series. I'm happy WhoeverTheHeck won but it feels kinda like a bit of a fluke.

The NFL has extreme wear on your body. More than most sports. So much that the average player only lasts 3 seasons. Or are you saying this ironically in that soccer has a lot of wear as well? Cause I would agree with that.
 
Well who would want to watch the Golden State Warriors win a championship?

For real though, as someone who played a lot of soccer through college I'm so happy it is picking up steam in the U.S. And women's soccer is a joy to watch.
 
I was at a Dave and Busters, and it was packed. It was a great atmosphere, with everyone yelling USA, USA, USA after each goal.
 
Where's the big MLS boost we've been hearing about for 20 years? Where's the massive anticipation for the Gold Cup?

For what it's worth, I'll probably watch the Gold Cup for the first time ever after enjoying the 2014 and 2015 World Cups so much.

Maybe if the closest MLS team wasn't 300 miles away I'd care about that, too.
Even though I don't watch, I know several people who have become big fans in the past few years, whereas before 2010 or so I never knew a single person who gave a rats ass about soccer.

I guess I'll have to start going to the local college women's soccer games. I've heard a lot more about them in the past few years as well.

Sure, these numbers aren't some sort of slam dunk but interest does seem to be trending upwards.
 
Doesn't really surprise me. National team vs. local ones. Easier to get behind. You'll have a lot of people tune out once their local team is out of the playoffs.

Guess the Super Bowl is the exception, though. Football is just crazy popular.
 
Mm. Show me the advertising air-time cost between this game and the NBA finals.

NBA and NHL 1 game playoffs. Do it!
I wouldn't mind seeing that at least once. Love the playoffs, but having a crazy one night atmosphere would be something.
 
I read that half of all worldwide registered female soccer players are from the USA.

They really should be dominating female soccer more.
 
The NFL has extreme wear on your body. More than most sports. So much that the average player only lasts 3 seasons. Or are you saying this ironically in that soccer has a lot of wear as well? Cause I would agree with that.

Quick Google search:
Football: 1.25 miles for receivers and cornerbacks
Football players don’t have a lot of time to travel very far. According to the Wall Street Journal, the average NFL game includes only 11 minutes of actual playing time. Receivers and cornerbacks run the most at just over one mile a game. That’s still an impressive feat considering 11 massive and highly trained athletes would prefer they run as little as possible.

Soccer: 7 miles
A large field, a fast moving ball, and rare substitutions mean soccer players can expect to log some heavy mileage over 90-plus minutes. Midfielders tend to run the most, sometimes reaching nearly 9.5 miles, according to SportVU.

http://www.runnersworld.com/newswire/distance-run-per-game-in-various-sports

Great news for USA, hope you guys join to the Joy of the beautiful game
 
Could do that too. How many people sat through those earlier round 4-0 blowouts in the NBA playoffs this year?

I find it astonishing why people get so defensive about soccer gaining traction here.

I could ask why people are so desperate to remind us all about the runaway momentum of soccer in the US for the last 20. I find that equally astonishing. Like repeating it enough times is going to make it come true.

1994, 1999, David Beckham, 2014. We get it, the revolution is happening any minute now.
 
I could ask why people are so desperate to remind us all about the runaway momentum of soccer in the US for the last 20. I find that equally astonishing. Like repeating it enough times is going to make it come true.

1994, 1999, David Beckham, 2014. We get it, the revolution is happening any minute now.

You're the only person in this thread bringing it up....
 
I could ask why people are so desperate to remind us all about the runaway momentum of soccer in the US for the last 20. I find that equally astonishing. Like repeating it enough times is going to make it come true.

1994, 1999, David Beckham, 2014. We get it, the revolution is happening any minute now.
I'd imagine they are excited about it. There's a difference between that and putting people excited about it down by comparing it to establish Leagues.
 
You're the only person in this thread bringing it up....

The entire article exists simply as something to wag around as proof of something. Otherwise it would just say how many people watched the game and end it there instead of comparing it to the NBA or NHL.

I'd imagine they are excited about it. There's a difference between that and putting people excited about it down by comparing it to establish Leagues.

lol, tell that to the person who wrote the article.
 
I could ask why people are so desperate to remind us all about the runaway momentum of soccer in the US for the last 20. I find that equally astonishing. Like repeating it enough times is going to make it come true.

1994, 1999, David Beckham, 2014. We get it, the revolution is happening any minute now.

The entire article exists simply as something to wag around as proof of something. Otherwise it would just say how many people watched the game and end it there instead of comparing it to the NBA or NHL.



lol, tell that to the person who wrote the article.

If people wouldn't disagree with it/dismiss it (of which there are a bunch of examples in this thread of people doing just that).



Also:

1994, 1999, David Beckham, 2014. We get it, the revolution is happening any minute now.

It already happened.

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Soccer is on a big rise in general in the states. Soccer has become the 3rd most attended sport in the US. I mean the odds of it passing Football is slim but it will continue to grow as it expands across the country and could eventually be neck and neck with Baseball averages.

Success breeds success. The Women's team winning it all will have its impact. The men's team at least being competitive has its impact.
 
The entire article exists simply as something to wag around as proof of something. Otherwise it would just say how many people watched the game and end it there instead of comparing it to the NBA or NHL.

Comparing it to the NBA or NHL is to put the numbers into perspective. Saying 20+ million people watched it doesn't mean much until you can compare it to something.

You're one of the only people taking issue with it, and it's actually funny to watch. They are good numbers for a women's sport, and for a sport that isn't anywhere near the overall popularity of the other sports in this country.

We get it. You don't like it. Get over it.
 
Now we're just in a chicken/egg debate. Who started what and when. All I know is what the article is trying to do.

In the beginning: Soccer isn't popular in the United States
<stuff happens>
Some time later: Hey, Soccer's popular in the United States now!

That would then be the end of it.


Instead we get:

It's not that popular
Well, it's more popular now
Still not that popular
How about now?
That's not popular
Is this popular enough?
No, that doesn't count because reasons
lol at your reasons
Yeah, well it's still not popular
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Stop talking about it so much
 
Comparing it to the NBA or NHL is to put the numbers into perspective. Saying 20+ million people watched it doesn't mean much until you can compare it to something.

You're one of the only people taking issue with it, and it's actually funny to watch. They are good numbers for a women's sport, and for a sport that isn't anywhere near the overall popularity of the other sports in this country.

We get it. You don't like it. Get over it.

Just pointing out cherry picking and flawed statistics. But, like I said, the revolution is coming any minute.
 
I could ask why people are so desperate to remind us all about the runaway momentum of soccer in the US for the last 20. I find that equally astonishing. Like repeating it enough times is going to make it come true.

1994, 1999, David Beckham, 2014. We get it, the revolution is happening any minute now.

What do you even mean by revolution though? Like, nobody is expecting soccer to overtake football or anything. But you have to admit soccer has grown immensely in the last 20 years.
 
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