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Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice - Comic-Con Trailer

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That shot of Bruce watching the building being torn from the inside by Zod as he screams on the phone is one of my favorites in the whole trailer. Just awesome.
 
Superman letting thousands of people die though has never been a thing. You can still have him make tough choices without him failing to be a super hero.

There are tons of stories about how Superman can't save everyone and every few years there's some comic event where Superman can't save the Earth or Universe and countless people die.

Even his encounters with characters like Darkseid or Mongol end at best in a draw 9/10 and result in them continuing to kill, maim or hurt hundreds of thousands. Same for plenty of his other bigger threat villains.
 
Tell em Snyder

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This just looks like shit from Man of Steel.
 
Oh it all makes sense in the more realistic context of the film, but I think it's a horrible decision to make a film like that in the first place. You could have still made a movie where he's just beginning and managed to save everyone anyway, and it wouldn't exactly have ruined the movie. You can even still add in choices about who to save for tension and still not have thousands of people die!
Now I understand the term armchair directing..
 
I like that it links back to MoS and the destruction Superman caused. It retroactively makes MoS more meaningful because it actually sets up the next film and shows how his actions have consequences.

Its a great refresh for those who may not remember what happened in MoS and snips out Superman's origin story quite well while giving you the needed details. I think they'll do the same for Batman as well with just a quick flashback, showing that Batman has already been in Gotham for some time.
 
Probably mentioned already but the shot at 2:55 is straight out of The Dark Knight Returns. The iconic shot with the lightning silhouetting Batman in that leaping crouch pose with left arm up, right arm straight down. Such a nice touch! (not my avatar. the other iconic image)
 
Those same people will be asked to suspend their disbelief and take large leaps in logic to enjoy this film.

I mean, you can just hear the "while strolling through the park one day..." tune play on as Bruce is casually and conveniently walking amidst the last movie's battleground.

Even my wife asked "doesn't bruce live in Gotham?"

Apparently Gotham and Metropolis are twin cities, literally right next to each other separated by a bridge (I think). That's not how it is in the comics, but they are making it like this in the movie to make it work. The upper class tend to stay in Metropolis while the lower class tend to stay in Gotham -- it would make sense for Bruce to have a lot of his corporate buildings in Metropolis under this idea, so it would make sense for him to be visiting Metropolis as it happened (or for him to travel to Metropolis once he hears about Superman being revealed to the world).
 

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Apparently Gotham and Metropolis are twin cities, literally right next to each other separated by a bridge (I think). That's not how it is in the comics, but they are making it like this in the movie to make it work. The upper class tend to stay in Metropolis while the lower class tend to stay in Gotham -- it would make sense for Bruce to have a lot of his corporate buildings in Metropolis under this idea, so it would make sense for him to be visiting Metropolis as it happened (or for him to travel to Metropolis once he hears about Superman being revealed to the world).

Bruce Wayne goes to Metropolis for business all the time, so even if they were twin cities, Wayne would still have a reason to be there.
 
The classic Superman problem has never ever been that he can't save everyone. The classic Superman problem is that he has the potential to save everyone or do anything, so he has to always do the right thing.


There's always a way. Unless the writers don't make one because they want to write in destruction.

Serious question. Do you read superman comics regularly? What is your knowledge of his comic book stories? The theme that he can't save everyone comes up quite often in the comic books
 
I really hope there's a lot more practical action for Batman. Because he moves like a cartoon, not a man.

Based on this trailer and that leaked clip of him charging superman a while back.

Yeah totally agree.

The trailer isn't selling me on the movie yet and I'm getting the feeling Irons will steal the show like Costner and Crowe did for me in MoS.
 
That's true haha, but this tone is bleeding into the whole new DC films too. It's a shame that DC is afraid to put super heroes in their super hero movies.

Superman was pretty super in Man of Steel. So much so he saved billions. He literally saved more people in MoS than Reeves Supes did. Shit, he save the world twice in MoS.

Apparently Gotham and Metropolis are twin cities, literally right next to each other separated by a bridge (I think). That's not how it is in the comics, but they are making it like this in the movie to make it work. The upper class tend to stay in Metropolis while the lower class tend to stay in Gotham -- it would make sense for Bruce to have a lot of his corporate buildings in Metropolis under this idea, so it would make sense for him to be visiting Metropolis as it happened (or for him to travel to Metropolis once he hears about Superman being revealed to the world).

They're not that far from each other in the comics. Maybe 50-100 miles.
 
Serious question. Do you read superman comics regularly? What is your knowledge of his comic book stories? The theme that he can't save everyone comes up quite often in the comic books
I've read all of the best Superman books, but I stopped reading his newer ones because I don't think they're very good. My favorite stuff is Grant Morrison's take as I'm sure you've guessed.

Superman was pretty super in Man of Steel. So much so he saved billions. He literally saved more people in MoS than Reeves Supes did. Shit, he save the world twice in MoS.
I really don't think it counts as a super hero is thousands of people die haha
 
Have Bat-extended-family runs ever do well? I know DC tried many times (e.g. Batman Inc).


Anything is an improvement over condom-head.

So far, I've only read Red Robin in the first volume of Batman Inc and I thought his take on the cowl, if that is what you're talking about here, actually looked really cool, and set him apart visually from the rest of the bat family. The little eye masks always seemed dorky to me, I like them well enough on DIck and Damian, 2 is enough for me !
 
I've read all of the best Superman books, but I stopped reading his newer ones because I don't think they're very good. My favorite stuff is Grant Morrison's take as I'm sure you've guessed.


I really don't think it counts as a super hero is thousands of people die haha

As long as he try and give it his all, he is my super hero :).


Grant Morrison "All Star Superman".

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Reeves actually resurrected people by turning time back, can't beat that.

Man, they were straight making nutty stuff with the Reeves Superman files. Remember the random cellophane S in 2? Or rebuilding the Great Wall of China with his eyes in 4? What the heck kind of powers are those?!
 
That shot of Bruce watching the building being torn from the inside by Zod as he screams on the phone is one of my favorites in the whole trailer. Just awesome.

Agreed-its one of the things that sold me on the trailer/movie. Great idea to tie it back to Bruce being there.

As long as he try and give it his all, he is my super hero :).


Grant Morrison "All Star Superman".

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Oh God. Why did you do this to me.
 
Bruce Wayne goes to Metropolis for business all the time, so even if they were twin cities, Wayne would still have a reason to be there.

That's true. Bruce Wayne does have buildings in Metropolis, and it would make sense for Bruce Wayne to expand into cities like Metropolis anyway. I even think Bruce Wayne may not be
active as Batman -- he's retired, essentially
as of yet by the time of MoS, so it would make sense for him to take more passive roles.

They're not that far from each other in the comics. Maybe 50-100 miles.

I never knew how far or close they were in the comics, even if I read them. I can't really recall any comics that I've read that deals with that issue, but I don't read many team books. Mostly just Batman (for DC).
 
So does Perry know Clarke is Supes? Hell the rest of the Daily Planet? I can buy Perry and Louis keeping things under wraps, but I don't know if that scene with Perry in the trailer goes along those lines.
 
I never knew how far or close they were in the comics, even if I read them. I can't really recall any comics that I've read that deals with that issue, but I don't read many team books. Mostly just Batman (for DC).

If I remember the map DC published in the 90's Gotham is in the Southeast of Jersey and Metropolis is in the Northern part of Dalaware.
 
What the hell does the weight of the characters have to do with anything?

If anything it makes it easier to introduce them in the same film.

Pretty much. It is easier to introduce characters that are well known to the average person than introduce five characters that most people have never heard of.

Everyone knows Batman's origin, they know Superman and Clark Kent, they get the general concept of Wonder Woman.
 
Autocorrect HATES her name! How a famous Daily Planet reporter keeps getting confused with a balding ginger comic

I believe Perry knows who he is. I'd imagine anyone standing next to/near Lois when the ship goes down can see who he is pretty clearly. The idea that people at the Planet are basically his cover is a pretty clever one.
 
Affleck has like a significant shot at easily being the best Batman/Bruce Wayne and maybe the first to truly be amazing as both.

Every shot of his face during the Metropolis parts are amazing, when he's hugging that kid, the rage, the anger, everything that made him become Batman was right there on his face.


Not enough Gadot to judge but there was something sublt about the way she shrugged off getting thrown into that wall, as if to say ok you've done it now mister and I loved it, I hate her costume though but then again I just really like WW in pants so I probably won't be easy to win over there.


Also since they're going with a younger Lex Luthor I absolutely dig his presence in this trailer.

Everything looks like it's going to be a worst a fun holy fuck ride and at best an actually great movie.
 
So does Perry know Clarke is Supes? Hell the rest of the Daily Planet? I can buy Perry and Louis keeping things under wraps, but I don't know if that scene with Perry in the trailer goes along those lines.

I doubt it. It was obvious that Lois was the only one who knew who Clark really is at the end of MoS.
 
Yes it is. It's be a recurring theme in Superman for a good 40 years. Even in the first Chris Reeve film his ultimate dilemma was being unable to save everyone. Happened with his father with the heart attack and toward the end with Lois when he had to stop that Earthquake machine. Happens in plenty of Superman comic and cartoon stories as well. Even with all his power Superman is ultimately just one person.

Even BATMAN tells him "You can't save them all"

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Eh...trailer didn't really do anything for me. I just can't buy the idea of Batman getting in a fight with Superman and not getting his ass handed to him within seconds.
 
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