Street Fighter V Roster Discussion: P-P-P-P-PATTERN BREAKER
- Thread starter IntelliHeath
- Start date
- Status
abstract alien
Member
Everything about Alpha outside of a few characters is trash, especially the loose ass gameplay. Stop liking what I don't like and support Oro and Necro for Street Fighter V!
Maybe they're not downright SF2 characters, but IMO they'd feel more out of place along with... Twelve, Gill, Necro, Remy, etc.
I love Alpha but I think Oro in SFV would be awesome. Is that ok ?
Move design, no, but aesthetically Fuerte, Abel and Hakan work.
Abel is a straight up Fedor clone w/ visual design, like Tyson/Lee.
abstract alien
Member
This...is acceptable.
Troubled Bat
Member
Guile isn't cool at all. The only thing great about him is his theme.
Joe = Cody
Good!
Avatar quote.
If you doubt it take the bet to skip the game if she's in.
Just like everyone else who didn't change their outfit in 4? And the SF3 characters who arent even supposed to exist in the game? She's still 16 in that game, it was an all stars game with no real basis in story.
I'd take an avatar bet, or even a ban bet that if Sakura does show up in this game, she will be looking like this.
They aren't scared to change her look.
I could have sworn we had almost this exact same discussion yesterday. I am not saying there is absolutely no way they will change her look, I am saying that there is basis to the claim that they are too scared to change it.
SF4 is a canon SF game, as much as I'd prefer Seth didn't exist in the main story and if she was 16 in it the justification for having her wear the uniform and particularly the Eternal School girl coment make no sense.
Anyway if you want to put a bet on it that's fine, you can set the terms and as long as it's fair and nothing crazy I'll accept. I think a ban is a bit overkill and I'm not sure if that'd be enforcible (Nor do I have any particular desire to see either of us banned) but if that's what you'd like to go for, I'll accept.
Yup, that's about right
For what is worth, not counting the SF2 cast, my favorite newcomers were indeed the Alpha
and EX
abstract alien
Member
Saw this posted about Necalli in the comments on SRK:
Pretty interesting if true. Side note, how many characters do we have now that use a V reversal of sorts?
Pretty interesting if true. Side note, how many characters do we have now that use a V reversal of sorts?
The Lone Dragon
Member
Free the series to do what? SF4 came out and all it did was basically tread water and retell SF2.
In fact, I think SF3 is the only force compelling the SF series to actually progress forward.
Capcom might remain in SF2-ville forever if it weren't for SF3 reminding them that, "yes, Shadaloo isn't the only plot-line you can explore, and yes classic characters are capable of getting older."
Isn't the V-reversal a universal thing ala Zero-counter, meaning everyone has one ?
Pure_Phazon
Member
Yep. It's a unversial mechanic, although not everyone hits the the opponent after they use it(Nash teleports away)
Rufus was an unfunny mean spirited stereotype, considering the other American characters in the game.
Wasn't it enough for Sodom to be the ignorant Japanophile/Weaboo American?
Well, in any case, that was 6 years ago that those comments were made. I dont really think such a mindset carries over to a game where they are intentionally being bold with some of the more set characters like Ken. They may have been hesitant with all the characters in 4, but in 5 i dont think it particularly hold water.
I think we were talking past each other a bit. I thought you were arguing that they were scared to change her look and she would stay a schoolgirl in SF5 because of that. But if your not saying such a thing, then there's no need for a bet really
Wasn't it enough for Sodom to be the ignorant Japanophile/Weaboo American?
Well, in any case, that was 6 years ago that those comments were made. I dont really think such a mindset carries over to a game where they are intentionally being bold with some of the more set characters like Ken. They may have been hesitant with all the characters in 4, but in 5 i dont think it particularly hold water.
I think we were talking past each other a bit. I thought you were arguing that they were scared to change her look and she would stay a schoolgirl in SF5 because of that. But if your not saying such a thing, then there's no need for a bet really
I just really hope Capcom learned there lesson and are putting much more thought into the story this time. The hell with anime stills for intro and outro 1 minute clips. Capcom can do better and give it a full fledge story like MK9 or MKX if they really put time into it.
I understand as a fighting game mechanics and gameplay come first for competition and that's fine but, Im sure a story mode is possible. I shouldn't have to read Udon comics all the time for "canonical" story or what took place between this and that no disrespect to the creators.
I understand as a fighting game mechanics and gameplay come first for competition and that's fine but, Im sure a story mode is possible. I shouldn't have to read Udon comics all the time for "canonical" story or what took place between this and that no disrespect to the creators.
Stiflers Mom
Banned
SF4 did not re-tell SF2.
abstract alien
Member
Ah, I thought they were referring to his V-Skill. My fault.
What i'm curious to see is how the non original roster characters get treated storywise.
If the story comes with the first release, does that mean the DLC characters are not apart of the story?
I'll back this. Sf4 honestly feels less like a reunion and more like a dream match: characters who were dead are suddenly alive for no real reason, time doesn't matter, and everyone is ageless. The story using Seth as the main villain and linchpin doesn't help it feel anymore legitimate.
Maybe they can make the story seasonal along with the characters released and it wouldn't end till the final character is released so that they all get in. Or they could take the MK route and just do the story with future DLC characters in the story and use them to flush it out and release them later like Rain,Tanya ect.
Agreed. And like many said before, having a really solid solo side to their game could really help selling it to the less hardcore audience.
Good point. DLC chars could probably have their own short story mode, which is not really something new, but it would be difficult to implement them in the global scenario... Unless they have a 5 years-plan of DLC ahead and every NPC that show in stills or CGI or anime or whatever in the story mode is supposed to be released afterwards as a playable char, like Kokonoe in BB for instance.
Ban Puncher
Member
Story canon and adhering to strict timelines really shouldn't matter in a game about punching each other in the face over and over again.
With DLC costumes people can play dress up with their favourite characters all day long so if school uniforms or banana hair make you tremble with white-hot rage, Capcom has you covered.
With DLC costumes people can play dress up with their favourite characters all day long so if school uniforms or banana hair make you tremble with white-hot rage, Capcom has you covered.
Captainbob
Member
The issue Capcom faces is that SF3 was actually some kind of 'soft reboot' of the series, they wanted to start a new with a new cast, new protagonist, new plot, new vilain etc.
Problem is SF3 games werent a financial success and as a result SF series went into hibernation for years.
They came back with SF4 and tried to reignite the flame by returning to the popular traditionnal SF era and as we know it was a massive success and brought the series back from the dead.
So I doubt they will ever do a legit SF3 followup, but rather they will go for an incorporation of SF3 in the 'classic' SF, and that's actually what they have been doing since SF4, and so far it seams the same with SF5.
I think they will keep the classic setting with Ryu, Ken, Chun etc forever struggling against an immortal Dictator who will eventually keep coming back, but they will add new characters, new story arcs to it (S.I.N, Illuminati etc).
So eventually I think we will move beyond SF3 timeline but keeping everything the series has established so far, I doubt there will be and 'end' to anything.
Scrapping SF original setting like they did with SF3 turned out to be a bad idea, at least commercially, I doubt they will reiterate.
Just like everyone else who didn't change their outfit in 4? And the SF3 characters who arent even supposed to exist in the game? She's still 16 in that game, it was an all stars game with no real basis in story.
I'd take an avatar bet, or even a ban bet that if Sakura does show up in this game, she will be looking like this.
They aren't scared to change her look.
Like this?
riskybusinesstomcruise
Member
Speaking of Abel as a Fedor clone, did they ever give a reason for making him french instead of russian? Seems like a weird decision.
abstract alien
Member
I love Hakan so much.
You're a good person.
yurinka
Member
Yep, it's perfect. I'd give her this new costume as the main one in SFV and I'd offer as alternative outfit the classic one.Like this?
Captainbob
Member
Like this?
Looks nice.
So far SF5 has shown they are keen to redesign character.
If Sakura is in she would be a good candidate, would add some sense of progression to the character. They could also go for her gi version from SF4:
Or even go further with satsui no hado sakura, like this year Udon's comic:
That would be the smart thing to do, her sailor fuku as DLC would sell a shitload.
b&jy77VjiKn$#F
Member
The love for Cody in this thread ;_;
Dr. Buni
Member
Personally, in terms of roster at least, Street Fighter started getting interesting from Alpha onwards to me, with 3 having the best roster of new characters. The SF/2 roster isn't bad, of course, but my favorite characters are all from Alpha/3/4.
Agreed, the hate Viper gets surprised me. In fact, I didn't know she was hated until a few days ago. I mean, I never expected her to be Juri levels of popular, but hated? :v She is IMO one of the best characters in the series.
Hakan's great. I want him back and his wife playable as well.
I made a list of the 12 returning I think it will be.
REALLY tough cuts imo - with a number like that it's going to have to happen...
I maybe got stuck on the X from this series approach but looking back at the 4 roster it was a lot like that...
One missing I would love to see as DLC: Sean, Makoto, Hakan.
Long shots: Skullomania, Yun/Yang as one character V-Trigger swaps between them.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KzBVlsf2zlkOrNaG6r782w8UW9VX2RVlb7CKD71Vfg0/edit?usp=drive_web
REALLY tough cuts imo - with a number like that it's going to have to happen...
I maybe got stuck on the X from this series approach but looking back at the 4 roster it was a lot like that...
One missing I would love to see as DLC: Sean, Makoto, Hakan.
Long shots: Skullomania, Yun/Yang as one character V-Trigger swaps between them.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KzBVlsf2zlkOrNaG6r782w8UW9VX2RVlb7CKD71Vfg0/edit?usp=drive_web
hooijdonk17
Member
If one of Dudley, Makoto or Abel are in, I won't have to main Ryu.
KidA Seven
Member
Pls no
I don't want SF to just be about shoto super saiyans. Not every shoto needs that. Ryu and Akuma are enough.
Troubled Bat
Member
Goutetsu would be hype though. He can actually control the Satsui no Hado.
Tizoc
Member
Was that mentioned in the canon?
- Status