Yeah... dude is legit scary.
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Hulk Hogan sex tape included racist tirade - WWE cuts all ties
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Yeah... dude is legit scary.
Still love, Hulk Hogan. Met quite a few wrestlers, and he was by far the nicest. His problem now is, A. Racist, B. He isn't a very smart or progressive individual despite where he attempts to be popular.
He made awful comments when he was suicidal lashing out, and continues not to get it. It's going to take a while, BROTHER.
For people trying to get really mad, he is not a lifelong harmful racist, and not even in his own profession.
He made awful comments when he was suicidal lashing out, and continues not to get it. It's going to take a while, BROTHER.
For people trying to get really mad, he is not a lifelong harmful racist, and not even in his own profession.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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How do you know? He basically ran WCW and TNA at different times.
Sure. In neither of those instances, blacks were put down greater or less than prior.
It's undeniable that WWE has a multi-national, multi-ethnic fan base and because of that hires a multi national, multi-ethnic group of performers.
However ask yourself this question: How many groups of people other then white Americans have been WWE champion in a quantity greater then 1? I can only count 2: Hispanics and Canadians and even counting Canadians is stretching it.
Didn't Hulk Hogan refuse to drop the belt to Bad News Brown?
MJ? The FBI investigated him for decades and found nothing. Inform me if I am missing something.
Hogan refused to lose to a lot of people.
It was his one trait that transcended, race, religion, creed or sexual orientation. In that all were equal.
Hogan refusing to lose the belt was the smart thing to do, for himself. Nobody prior could do that, he paved the way for creative control.
Ninja Scooter
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The only person he put over was Bubba's wife.
I think it was his friend's wife.
This is weird because it's a step beyond social media or even a recorded voicemail.
We are stepping into territory where a public figure could be taking a shit, and just happen to say "nigger" (for some reason) and they're done.
Do racists deserve to get fired? Unquestionably.
Does everyone deserve to be taped?
We are stepping into territory where a public figure could be taking a shit, and just happen to say "nigger" (for some reason) and they're done.
Do racists deserve to get fired? Unquestionably.
Does everyone deserve to be taped?
I know that, but the way he seems to be pouring his heart out to her, seems like a lot more than a freak friend.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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The way he just casually goes right into "I am a racist to a point, fucking n-words" is like every time in the south I've been with a group of shitty old white business dudes or in a house full of assholes. The clear implication that the other white people must agree with this viewpoint and talk about it all the time because it's a common thing. Everyone denying racism in 2007 or 2015: racism is real as fuck.
Hogan had been rumored to be in the swapping scene for some time. The sex tape kinda backs that up some. Unknown to the Hulkster this little one on one was recorded by his good friend and said good friends wife he had just sexed so one day if they needed the cash they'd have something to fall back on.
Eventually Hogan was divorced by his wife who took him to the cleaners. During this Hogan said he got why OJ did what he did due to being pissed off about the whole damn thing.
That last bit, didn't even get him in trouble.
The closer your friendship with a white southerner, the more likely you are to find out whether they're a racist.
There is a good reason he was such good friends with Eric Bischoff.
MHWilliams
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The issue is thinking of it as points.
People are a wide variety of things, a ton of various aspects in one body. Being good in other aspects of your life does not preclude you from racist actions. Everyone has different points that are important to them. People and organizations have the right to decide not to patronize or work with you for various reasons. There are protections for discrimination, but situations like Hogan's fall outside that. He said things, an organization decided not to work with him anymore.
Is he a horrible person? No clue. Did he say horrible things? Yes. How anyone outside of Hogan wants to deal with that is up to them, really, as long as they don't directly hurt or harass him.
Err.. are you forgetting the biggest star in WWE history?
Ninja Scooter
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John Cena is white.
Bischoff and his wife were freaking strippers together? No wonder he couldn't keep WCW alive, the man was tired.
Samoan:
Yokozuna and the Rock
Black:
Mark Henry, Booker T and The Rock (unless you aren't counting the WHC then remove Henry and Booker)
But yeah I agree with you; the WWE has a pretty dismal record with giving minorities a shot with the top belt.
As an Arab, I have to say that the WWE sure loved to hate on us.
Lovely Salsa
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Is he hispanic?
Giving Samoan 1 and a half doesn't help. Especially when you're taking the half from the black column.
Lovely Salsa
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Wait wtf are we even talking about? Was he even refering to john cena?
Reminds of the Patrice O Neal talking about his time with the WWE. He says Tiger Ali Sigh asked Vince to stop making fun of his Turban because his family thought it was shameful and Vince gave zero fucks...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZeYOKQxZbc#
He never won it.
PHOENIXZERO
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But he should have after the retirement swerve.
Eh. I liked the angle, but not sure he deserved the strap.
funkystudent
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Damn right he should have.
That swerve is one of the all time great wrestling segments as far as I am concerned and Henry got a little big of a career boost after it for a while but its a shame he never got a short run with the belt then. Seemed like the perfect (and probably his last) time for it.
He was only really interesting when he was Sexual Chocolate and intimidating when he had that late Hall of Pain run where he won the Big Gold.
After that he was Miz-Tier.
John Cena WWE's biggest star? What?
Booker T won it in 2006, in the same time guys like Triple H, Randy Orton, Rey Mysterio, Kurt Angle, Batista, and The Undertaker held it. It wasn't just some scrubby title then. Compared to Raw, who had Cena, Edge, and RVD changing it around.
They have a convicted rapist in Mike Tyson in their history, and bring it up when it's appropriate.
Let the PR queen, Stephanie, spin those around.
The WHC was the frontrunner belt for the longest time. WWE championship was smackdown junk.
Paracelsus
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Triple H dropped it in April of 2005, and he never looked at it after Vengeance. He only ever won the WWE title since.
The belt was demoted to second fiddle the day Batista was drafted to Smackdown and they had finished grooming their next posterboy. Booker T got a moderately small reign when he got repackaged into a buffoon gimmick.
You may want to listen to this, as scripted as it is it's the truth.
The WHC was the belt for as long as HHH needed it to be, which was the time needed for them to repackage Cena as the next big thing after Lesnar had left. It died the day it was drafted to Smackdown. Just go look how loosely it changed hands and the type of people from the midcard holding it, it was a hot potato title.
If we want to go there, again: both Bryan and Punk were multiple time world champions when they finally got over, both had tear-inducing (?) underdog storylines leading into the WWE championship win. It's as if like WWE broke the fourth wall acknowledging the WHC wasn't worth a thing for ages.
If the WWE title was on Smackdown when Henry was finally put over, do you actually think they would've put that type of strap on him? No way.
NYR
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Roman Reigns would disagree, the fans and not WWE killed his rise.
Good thing he learned the true ending from rock.
Be ok at movies, it works itself out
So were guys like Kurt Angle, The Undertaker, and Batista not big stars? Maybe not mega-stars, but they were on the main event levels of those from the Raw side.
Even so, Cena and Edge had a feud over the WHC title in 2009. Did it suddenly mean something then?
It's stopped relevance after this, though, as it was more of a roadway for younger guys and for cash-ins from the MitB (CM Punk, Jack Swagger, Kane, Dolph Ziggler, etc.). Thus, they gave the actual WWE title to headliner types or guys they seem fit (not these folks).
Paracelsus
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It was already showing weakness around the time Batista lost it the first time. Angle was a broken mess by the time he got emergency called to replace Batista as WHC leading into WM, Undertaker was never a wwe title hog (or title hog in general, he draws by gimmick) and then there's Batista.
Also, a midget won it in 2006, pinning the likes of JBL twice.
The Cena/Edge/Beeg feud means nothing, it was filler because HHH decided he wanted to be all over RAW again (and his match with Orton was a no-pop dud). The WHC in my opinion stopped being relevant post WM23 (when Edge pinned Undertaker, leading eventually to Khali winning it).
VincentMatts
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Well in the end, he will have to live with the fact that this is the first thing people will think about every time someone says his name now. Just like that Kramer guy. That to me is punishment enough for him.
I do feel however that most people will sometime lose their shit, and say things they regret in the heat of the moment. And it happens more often than most people would like to admit. His problem is that it was caught on tape.
I do feel however that most people will sometime lose their shit, and say things they regret in the heat of the moment. And it happens more often than most people would like to admit. His problem is that it was caught on tape.
People are still skeptical. As a huge MJ fan I hope all the accusations are still bullshit.
Nah, he still came out on top
And we know that the WWE is having him do that and it is not his thing?
ElRenoRaven
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It gets better folks. Apparently Hogan hates gay people too.
http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/hulk-hogan-homophobic-rant-revealed-audiotape-transcript-racist-n-word/
http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/hulk-hogan-homophobic-rant-revealed-audiotape-transcript-racist-n-word/
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