rokkerkory
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Why dont minorities like him?
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Its not that we don't its just that he has very little name recognition among low info minority voters. I'm working on that though
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Its not that we don't its just that he has very little name recognition among low info minority voters. I'm working on that though
His numbers among minorities are going to rise from now on. I believe MSNBC only started live streaming Bernie’s events today. The mainstream media are talking about him more and things will pick up once Bernie hits places such as Charleston S.C., Alabama, and Mississippi.
Third Strike
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His South Carolina locations are close, but I want to feel the Bern somewhere close to Charlotte. 
GiantEnemyGoomba
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Any estimates on the size?
Watched the Des Moines speech and it's really difficult to understand how people can vote for anyone else than Trump and Sanders. As much he talks bullshit, Trump isn't bullshitting you. Neither does Sanders. Clear, open words and a history of sticking to their principals. And Sanders got the big advantage over Trump by being reasonable in his demands and the mark the United States should aim for. I really hope that Sanders wins everything. I don't know if the United States will ever get a chance like him ever again.
Karsticles
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He might have to compromise, but that would still be better than what others are offering.
KuwabaraTheMan
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Probably not the full extent of them, but compromising from the left is better than compromising from center-right.
rokkerkory
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Its not that we don't its just that he has very little name recognition among low info minority voters. I'm working on that though
Yeah I just don't get it... more education is needed then.
I am minority and he appeals to me greatly. I don't need a lot of what he is proposing but I can see that many others may.
PS: Time to take back this country from big corporations.
If he were to actually be elected, it would also speak volumes as to what the American people want, it would be very telling that a social democrat was elected. Heck him getting the kind of support he is now this early in the game is kind of telling honestly.
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Once Emperor B-Rock the Islamic shock and Elizabeth Warren throw their support behind bernie he'll be as good as gold.
Its not that minorities don't like him. Barely anyone who has not followed the senate actually knows who he is. That goes for all groups, but most especially Hillary supporters who are just now hearing about him, as opposed to sticking with Hillary.
Bernie will not throw a punch at Hillary i think and that will be a big mistake. Unless you let people know that Hillary doesn't deserve the approval ratings she's getting based on her previous stances, they aren't going to understand the difference between voting for either one of them.
"She's a democrat that i know, so i'm going to vote for her" isn't really an informed decision
If it looks like he's going to win at some point, they'll throw it all at him. They give huge sums to both parties for a return, and to keep candidates like Sanders away.
The Wraith
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I hope he wins the Democratic nomination. He has my vote and my Axe!
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Man, Bernie's speech in Iowa was way better than I was expecting. He's far more dynamic and engaging than he was the last time I tuned in to something of his.
Love almost everything he is saying of course, but is his plan to pay for all of this stuff (expanded social security, minimum wage doubling, free tuition, lower interest rates on loans, expanded maternity leave, universal basic income, etc.) just "more taxes for the rich"? It's always difficult to parse out the pragmatic nuts and bolts methodologies candidates have in mind for achieving their (in this case extremely lofty) goals.
Regardless, I'd take an idealist like Bernie over any other candidate I've seen so far. It's really great he's picking up traction and his ideas are getting more exposure, even though I haven't the faintest idea if any of his positions would be realistically accomplished if he actually became president.
Love almost everything he is saying of course, but is his plan to pay for all of this stuff (expanded social security, minimum wage doubling, free tuition, lower interest rates on loans, expanded maternity leave, universal basic income, etc.) just "more taxes for the rich"? It's always difficult to parse out the pragmatic nuts and bolts methodologies candidates have in mind for achieving their (in this case extremely lofty) goals.
Regardless, I'd take an idealist like Bernie over any other candidate I've seen so far. It's really great he's picking up traction and his ideas are getting more exposure, even though I haven't the faintest idea if any of his positions would be realistically accomplished if he actually became president.
Bernie has said he will use the money he shores up from taxing corps that use offshore tax havens, as well as heavy fines on those banks that deal in speculative derivatives trading, as well as cuts in military spending.
He also would let the Bush tax cuts of 2001 and 2003 expire, which would already give us far more revenue by itself, but he has also spoken of reforming the tax code, so that the amount an institution or individual pays is dependent fully on their income status going forward permanently. Those who make the most will be taxed the heaviest of course, but those states that pay disproportionately high for services(like my state New Jersey) would also be affected in a positive manner.
I feel like I've seen something similar related to this campaign before. Can't put my finger on it.
"Today BLM Seattle, with the support of other Black organizers and non-Black allies and accomplices, held Bernie Sanders publicly accountable for his lack of support for the Black Lives Matter movement and his blatantly silencing response to the ‪#‎SayHerName‬ ‪#‎IfIDieInPoliceCustody‬ action that took place at Netroots this year."
They weren't aware of what he had done since Netroots, largely because it hadn't been publicized by the national media. This was an unfortunate matter of miscommunication, which has been blown completely out of proportion, and now there's been all sorts of needlessly hurt feelings amongst obvious allies. I don't see the point in perpetuating it any longer.
I recall a couple saying saying that when Bernie's camp is being accused of something, talking about Hillary is deflection. Now that Hillary's camp is being accused of something, deflecting to Sanders happened on the first responding post.
I also recall you being one of them.
Does he have a speech today?
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This is it. BLM itself, their protests are directly tied to the fact that they don't even know his platform. And the subsequent protests are due to the fact that Bernie's actual platform is not even shown by the media...outside of trump and hillary time, they barely show anything of the other candidates. Especially those who cant spend money
And so now, its probably it may come back to haunt him "Why is there so much controversy over Black Lives matter with Bernie Sanders?" "Its called Black lives matter..and they have an issue with Bernie Sanders, is Bernie sanders a racist?!"
Literally drawing the conclusions without any research. I don't expect people to know because its hard to find out, but its unfortunate
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This is it. BLM itself, their protests are directly tied to the fact that they don't even know his platform. And the subsequent protests are due to the fact that Bernie's actual platform is not even shown by the media...outside of trump and hillary time, they barely show anything of the other candidates. Especially those who cant spend money
And so now, its probably it may come back to haunt him "Why is there so much controversy over Black Lives matter with Bernie Sanders?" "Its called Black lives matter..and they have an issue with Bernie Sanders, is Bernie sanders a racist?!"
Literally drawing the conclusions without any research. I don't expect people to know because its hard to find out, but its unfortunate
Vigilant Walrus
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I think this not attacking Hilary is one of the most classy things about Sanders, and it makes me like him a lot more. Let it be about the politics, not the insults or soap operas.
Bernie's currently having one in Eldridge at the Scott County Democrats picnic. I tried looking for live streams, but couldn't find any. Sorry. He'll be at a college in Dubuque later on. We should be able to have lots of coverage for that. It'll also be a large event since they switched venues due to the amount of rsvps.
Bernie's campaign team should seriously invest in having a dedicated live streamer for all his events. It'll go a long way in getting more supporters. Plus I like seeing all the different venues and enthusiastic supporters from across the country.
Edit: 3,000 people turned out for Eldridge.
Don't you think it will come to that eventually? I would imagine so once it's Sanders and Clinton alone in the running, assuming Biden doesn't join the race. It's going to be hard not to go after Hilary when Hilary is aggressively going after Sanders.
KuwabaraTheMan
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Good on him. He works hard for those rates. You don't see many 74 years old going that strong.
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Bernie's got this! Once he gets the nom senator Warren, Emperor B-rock the islamic shock and lil B will campaign for him. Republicans are getting steam rolled.
biosnake20
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More and more people are starting to #FeelTheBern
If you want to insult people, do it to their face rather than cowering in your safe place.
More importantly, what are the details of this 'political revolution'? Is it the ineffective 'bully pulpit' plan again? Have you been reaching out to non-white voters for Bernie Sanders yet?
Sling mud when you have something solid to stand on.
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I hope him and warren do join
Vigilant Walrus
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It's a possibility, but so it is for him to take SuperPACs.
Isn't Bernie Sanders fight a moral one? He is saying what is true, what the science tell us, and the disparity in society has become so large, that it cannot so easily be corrupted and reversed back on the people.
Many people are so pessimistic that nothing changes. It will never change until they overrule that citizens united ruling. That might be the most important thing for American democracy, and it's why I think, even if you are a republican, you are insane if you don't vote for him.
That, an fighting for the destruction of the Two-Party system.
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I know this isn't aimed at me but if I may I am non white (I prefer the term minority) and I've been reaching out to fellow minorities.
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Wow. People really get attached to these things...
The post was barely an insult... it is actually a reflection of what has been seen on this board at least.
It is fair to ask for details but the rest of the post... wow. Take a step back and relax.
Jack Remington
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He can't. Especially not about the email thing. No Democrat should dignify that Republican farce.
The primary needs to be devoid of negative ads. This election is too important to blow. Let Republicans use the circular firing squad method.
It's hard to attack someone who represents popular opinion on most things, and only wants to argue policy not personality.
I'd expect vague attacks on his economic credibility to start with. Then convince members that they'd lose the GE with Bernie.
I'm surprised that Sanders is having such an easy ride so far, relative to his comrade Jeremy Corbyn in the UK. Corbyn is leading the Labour leadership election though, according to a few polls. That's probably why.
Are you saying you want to meet in person?
If you want details of how democracy works, there's google and wikipedia.
I talk a out Bernie with anyone who wants to talk about him.
And it's LAUGHABLY hypocritical that YOU of all people are claiming that I don't have something solid to stand on.
You proved earlier you have NO FUCKING CLUE how Union PACs work. How clueless do you have to be to think that Union member donations would show up in a spot meant for employees of the Union? Did you think being a Union member meant being employed by the Union? Do you not understand the concept of Union members donating to the Union PAC to let their donations speak in a UNIFIED manner? How out of touch are you that you think donations from individuals working at Wall Street would prove Hillary to be a champion of the middle class?
And you have REPEATEDLY IGNORED my points about Hillary:
1) Being a huge proponent of the war on drugs, which has disproportionately affected minorities.
2) Being a huge proponent of mass incarceration, which has disproportionately affected minorities.
3) Being a huge proponent of "tough on crime" policies, which has disproportionately affected minorities.
4) Voting for the Iraq War after being the same information that was enough for Sanders to detect bullshit and vote no.
5) Being a proponent of repealing Glass-Steagall.
6) Being a proponent of DOMA and only coming out to support equal rights for gay people when its popular.
There's plenty of "something solid" I've thrown at you. Go ahead and pretend it doesn't exist. That's what out of touch, clueless people like you do.
loki 16
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Good, Bernie's momentum keeps building and building.
Fantastic - so his ideas are actually backed up with tangible strategies. It's a crying shame that, even though he's being brought up more in the news now, it's always in relation to Hillary - i.e. "Hillary is losing momentum in X state due to grassroots support for candidate Bernie Sanders!" Our media is such a poisonous influence on American "democracy".
Still rad how high he's climbed though - but I have a bad feeling he's going to plateau after a couple more percentage points. He better kill it at the first debate.
starwarsfan541
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If Biden runs he may hurt clinton more which could also help quite a bit.
Excellent point - I hadn't thought of that.
Sanders had a brief (~7 minutes) interview with Chuck Todd on Meet the Press this morning - at the end Todd said he wants to have a longer issue-oriented interview in the near future. That's a good sign, at least.
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