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That place was so packed, they had two overflow rooms, which Bernie addressed separately.
This is happening on a smaller scale in the UK with Jeremy Corbyn for Labour leader. If the polls are accurate he'll win in spite of the media and much of his own party's efforts to stop him. An anti-austerity, pacifist socialist with 'radical' economic policies that are supported by more than a few prominent economists.

Worth it to reframe the debate in the UK.
 
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New NH poll:

There's been a big shift on the Democratic side since April as well. Bernie Sanders now leads the field in the state with 42% to 35% for Hillary Clinton, 6% for Jim Webb, 4% for Martin O'Malley, 2% for Lincoln Chafee, and 1% for Lawrence Lessig.

The main story in New Hampshire is how universally popular Sanders has become with
the Democratic electorate. 78% see him favorably to only 12% with a negative opinion that makes him easily the most popular candidate on either side with their party's voters.
Meanwhile Hillary Clinton's favorability numbers have taken a little bit of a hit- she was
at 78/10 with Democratic primary voters in April, but now she's at a 63/25 spread.
The ideological divide is actually not that stark on the Democratic side. Sanders is ahead
with 'somewhat liberal' voters (45/32), 'very liberal' ones (46/37), and moderates (40/36)
alike. And although there is certainly a gender gap Sanders is ahead with both men
(44/30) and women (41/38). But the real big divide we see is along generational lines-
Clinton is ahead 51/34 with seniors, but Sanders has a 45/29 advantage with everyone
under the age of 65.

“New Hampshire is really unique in the Democratic race,” said Dean Debnam, President
of Public Policy Polling. “We still find Hillary Clinton well ahead everywhere else, but
it’s clear at this point that there’s a real race in the Granite State.”

Public Policy Polling surveyed 436 usual Republican primary voters and 370 usual Democratic primary voters from August 21st to 24th. The margin of error for the Republicans is +/-4.7% and for the Democrats it’s +/-5.1%. 80% of participants responded via the phone, while 20% of respondents who did not have landlines conducted the survey over the internet.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_NH_82515.pdf

Credit to benjipwns for posting this link in the Trump thread.
 
Cornel West
https://mobile.twitter.com/CornelWest/status/635998061924192256
14h14 hours ago
Cornel West ‏@CornelWest
I endorse Brother @BernieSanders because he is a long-distance runner with integrity in the struggle for justice for over 50 years

Cornel is a pretty big win. He has 662k followers on Twitter.

There's some vocal pushback from people who are calling socialism "serfdom" and from Hillary supporters but really nothing overwhelmingly negative.
 
Sanders is coming to a nearby college in my city next week for a rally. Just curious, but what can I expect from a political rally? I've never been to one. Also, for those of you who have been to a Sanders rally, how early should I arrive?
 
So what is your response to the dismissive "lol he's socialist" noise going around?

I swear very few republicans I know in person have not read up on a single thing about it. They stopped at socialist.

One of my coworkers responded to me saying "I'm supporting Bernie Sanders" with "He's a communist!!!". My response was -_-

I'm actually organizing an event here in CT for supporters to work on their "elevator pitch" responses for topics like that, so I need to figure out the best approach. Clearly there are lots of people who will never listen to reason, but I think that the "OMG SOCIALISM" bullshit is relatively easy to combat, as Sanders has proven every time it's been brought up in interviews. The fact is that he's not a "socialist", and it's extremely easy to showcase commonly accepted aspects of American society that are actually "socialist" in nature but which we accept because they make sense within our democracy, hence "Democratic Socialist".

I don't know if this was already posted but my sister just sent this to me lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oz3YvE_FHXY

I lol'd
 
Sanders is coming to a nearby college in my city next week for a rally. Just curious, but what can I expect from a political rally? I've never been to one. Also, for those of you who have been to a Sanders rally, how early should I arrive?

Is it going to be on Saturday the 12th? Cornel West is going to be with him as well; they're hitting three stops that day. It's probably not going to be like the other rallies. Regardless, I'd get there as soon as you can, because they tend to fill up quick. Keep an eye on the SandersForPresident subreddit, they make official posts for each rally before hand, and there will be updates from people there talking about crowd sizes and all that.
 
So went to my first political event and since I'm posting here, it was for Bernie. I live in the Bay Area but anyway there were about 20 people and I was the only minority lol. Was one of only 3 people in their 20s too. Aside from that, had a good time and will probably go to more. And of course attempt to get more people my age and minorities to vote for Bernie. Though in general I'd be happy if I can encourage people to vote at all.
 

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So went to my first political event and since I'm posting here, it was for Bernie. I live in the Bay Area but anyway there were about 20 people and I was the only minority lol. Was one of only 3 people in their 20s too. Aside from that, had a good time and will probably go to more. And of course attempt to get more people my age and minorities to vote for Bernie. Though in general I'd be happy if I can encourage people to vote at all.

Nice. I've found most of the supporters in my area to be older/white too, trying to change that. Why do you think that more minorities aren't involved in your area?
 
I don't even know where to begin with responding to this picture. In fact, how should I? Some of my friends posted it.

That's based off of a Wall Street Journal hit piece on Bernie which has already been widely debunked. For example, they neglect to factor in the savings businesses and local gov't agencies would make by not having to be involved with health insurance for their employees anymore.
 
So I don't really care for politics, but a friend of mine told me I should read up on Sanders, as he says some of my ideals align with his supposedly.

Where should I go for finding out more info, maybe make comparisons to the other candidates. I grew up conservative but have been moving way more progressive the past several years.
 
I don't even know where to begin with responding to this picture. In fact, how should I? Some of my friends posted it.

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It's complete BS, but I responded to the healthcare bit. The numbers on that are pretty much irrefutable at this point for any rational person. Throw in the fact that Trump has supported universal health care in the past as well.
 
So I don't really care for politics, but a friend of mine told me I should read up on Sanders, as he says some of my ideals align with his supposedly.

Where should I go for finding out more info, maybe make comparisons to the other candidates. I grew up conservative but have been moving way more progressive the past several years.
Bernie Sanders and the media:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGv2SPB8pNU

Bernie Sanders on climate change:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxLwmGPMLJk

Vox interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5vOKKMipSA

Katie Kouric interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpgJYNaIeqo

I know it's not writing, but hearing his policy stances straight from the mouth is nice. The Vox and Kouric interviews have time stamps to boot.
 
Bernie Sanders and the media:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGv2SPB8pNU

Bernie Sanders on climate change:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxLwmGPMLJk

Vox interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5vOKKMipSA

Katie Kouric interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpgJYNaIeqo

I know it's not writing, but hearing his policy stances straight from the mouth is nice. The Vox and Kouric interviews have time stamps to boot.


I second all of these.

Also, the video below is probably one of the most important ones, because Bernie goes into detail about the problems with wealth inequality, and how he plans to fix it.

https://youtu.be/VePpQBCbKBw
 
I second all of these.

Also, the video below is probably one of the most important ones, because Bernie goes into detail about the problems with wealth inequality, and how he plans to fix it.

https://youtu.be/VePpQBCbKBw
This video is all over my facebook feed. It has millions of views on his facebook page.

I think people have underestimated Bernie because they don't realize that it doesn't matter if the networks cover him or not. He's on everyone's facebook feeds all the time. His message is getting out there, whether there is money behind it or not.
 
I don't even know where to begin with responding to this picture. In fact, how should I? Some of my friends posted it.


So basically, your friends don't understand Bernie Sander's platform.

Firstly, i would ask where the numbers that picture came up with came from. If its from WSJ, then its even more ridiculous because WSJ's claims have already been debunked.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...-bankrupt-america-to-the-tune-of-18-trillion/

The fact of the matter is...15 trillion of those numbers come from what we already spend by default in the next 10 years due to rising healthcare costs.

The main core of Bernie's proposal is a medicare for all solution, which essentially saves us 10 trillion(conservative estimate) over 10 years and more afterward. This in effect saves us significantly more money than what we are projected to loose over the next 10 years on our current system which is over 20 trillion dollars wasted. This is according to the analyst who's study WSJ distorted.

This 10 trillion alone according to Robert Reich would pay for all of Bernie's plans overnight with 2 trillion left to pay down the deficit.

Your friends also fail to understand that Bernie's platform is not about taxing the rich 100%, or getting rid of the war budget entirely, but erasing the bush tax cuts of 2001 and 2003 respectively,. taxing financial speculation on wall street and extra for those corporations who dodge taxes by stashing their assets in the cayman islands, and reforming the tax code in general so it is more far more progressive a system based on your actual income.

This would save even MORE money than just moving to a medicare for all health system, which by default is a huge savings.
 
This video is all over my facebook feed. It has millions of views on his facebook page.

I think people have underestimated Bernie because they don't realize that it doesn't matter if the networks cover him or not. He's on everyone's facebook feeds all the time. His message is getting out there, whether there is money behind it or not.

He has certainly proliferated social media. Unfortunately, not everyone uses social media, so he's gonna have to diversify his efforts in order to reach the rest of the populace.
 
He has certainly proliferated social media. Unfortunately, not everyone uses social media, so he's gonna have to diversify his efforts in order to reach the rest of the populace.
True, but many of those people have people in their circle who do.

The Bernie enthusiasm is through the roof. It reminds me of the early days of Obama. His supporters tell everyone they know to vote for him and are passionate evangelists, it is why is support is growing with such speed.
 
Nice. I've found most of the supporters in my area to be older/white too, trying to change that. Why do you think that more minorities aren't involved in your area?

Well from listening to the other supports talk, it's lack of awareness. Seems no one really knows who Bernie is and aren't aware of his platform.
 
I like Sanders' ideas and policies but I'm really confused how any of them would ever be implemented? How would he ever get any of his ideas approved by Congress?
Its not as hard as you think...in particular because the biggest people to lose out in all of this if the bottom falls out and the poverty stricken rise up in arms are the super rich. They are dumb and overconfident, but not THAT dumb and overconfident. Despite that the bern's stats are reasonably accurate, the wealthy took a slight hit with the recessions of late, although nowhere near as bad as the common folks like you an I. THe housing crisis affected me in Canada for cripes sakes and we never gave anyone outrageous mortagages etc.! The super wealthy are teetering on collapse of their get rich quick scheme and not only does the bern's policy resound with morality is it is scientifically sound and will save everyone money and time in the long run. It is simply foolish to be brainwashed by right wing propaganda and any left politicians who sell out to the higest bidder like the majority of US democrats. The Bern is special America! Feeel it! [touches air and puts out flame with sizzling sound]

Sorry Im Canadian do your own US research if you want US figures its the same idea but WORSE for America

I don't even know where to begin with responding to this picture. In fact, how should I? Some of my friends posted it.

[disgusting right wing BS propaganda]


Its absolute lies, try not to be too rough on your friends, but a little poke at how gullible they are with right wing propaganda is fair game in my books ;p Would the following be too harsh for your friends:

"If you enjoy being both a slave and fool...power to you?"/s

send them my link above....all the stuff people are feelin the bern with is not a lie the figures are fairly accurate from the bern camp where the Jed and Carly camps are flat out BS and not based on reality. You want to show then how it is in their best interest not to be a slave to the super-rich. They cant steal your money without you just handing it over with no questions asked. Is a new cel phone really enough for you when the super rich get a new helicpter or private jet. Its not enough for me. Technology and science is supposed to make life easier for people, not cut people ouot of jobs...that is is what is making the rich wealthy, they dont have any use for workers when everything can be automated...

The bern reminds me of my grandfather, who ran for Prime MInister in Canada in the mid to late 90's. He was 80 years old, needed a hearing aid, and was so old he didnt care if he was assassinated so he basically said he was going to take the money away from the banks....he wasnt "electable" back then, despite getting the minimum signatures together to form a party.... but he had his 30 seconds on national TV...he offered me or any grandchild of his a million dollars to take on his platform, but no one wanted to die even for a million.......but the bern is electable....just vote for him and find out.

edit gotta run...more on this later..............bui good job GAF I knew I could find a bern thread here..
 
Bernie Sanders and the media:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGv2SPB8pNU

Bernie Sanders on climate change:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxLwmGPMLJk

Vox interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5vOKKMipSA

Katie Kouric interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpgJYNaIeqo

I know it's not writing, but hearing his policy stances straight from the mouth is nice. The Vox and Kouric interviews have time stamps to boot.

I second all of these.

Also, the video below is probably one of the most important ones, because Bernie goes into detail about the problems with wealth inequality, and how he plans to fix it.

https://youtu.be/VePpQBCbKBw


Thanks everyone, will give all these a watch after work.
 
It's nice to see that this thread is still alive. I haven't been posting links to streams and updating the OP since classes have started. I just don't have the time to watch anymore.

Anyone is free to share live streams however you like when Bernie has his events. I can make my .psd files available too if anyone wants to continue the format, but of course it's not necessary.
 
If you did that you'd probably have enough to implement Bernie's policies through the rest of the world.

I was thinking isn't the US defense budget alone over half a trillion dollars a year?

Just what "promises" is the person who made this image talking about that's so costly? Hell, do they even know what Bernie's policies are?
 
I was thinking isn't the US defense budget alone over half a trillion dollars a year?

Just what "promises" is the person who made this image talking about that's so costly? Hell, do they even know what Bernie's policies are?

Most likely not. They call them "promises" after all. Which implies that he's giving away 'free stuff for votes' a convenient conservative(and even democrat) talking point when its in their interest.
 
I was thinking isn't the US defense budget alone over half a trillion dollars a year?

Just what "promises" is the person who made this image talking about that's so costly? Hell, do they even know what Bernie's policies are?

I mentioned it earlier, but that pic is based off of a Wall Street Journal hit piece on Bernie which has since been thoroughly debunked. The "promises" are referring to universal health care and free public college education, things which European countries seem to be able to do just fine without bankrupting themselves.
 
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