We just came back from a jog at the park and someone tagged up the park trail with pro Bernie logos like "Feel the Bern" and "Bernie Sanders is not for sale" ....wtf, not cool.
Think that's bad? I saw Trump 2016 on a couple of stop signs today.
We just came back from a jog at the park and someone tagged up the park trail with pro Bernie logos like "Feel the Bern" and "Bernie Sanders is not for sale" ....wtf, not cool.
It's in the OP
Yikes.except it was spray paint : /
I wonder what Hillary's team is thinking.
I wonder what Hillary's team is thinking.
"Yellow curtains again?"
They keep getting BIGGER!
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But... He's not a contender, right? /s
Only according to PoliGaf...I mean HillaryGaf.
and, y'know, everyone whose professional reputation relies on their accurate forecasting of elections
(you're really doing your best to dispel the ron paul comparisons, though. good job.)
and, y'know, everyone whose professional reputation relies on their accurate forecasting of elections
I wonder what Hillary's team is thinking.
You be wrong. You'd be really wrong if the basic media(mainstream ABC, CBS, NBC) covered him at all. He gets brief mentions on those Nightly News when he just turned out 70,000(15, 28, 27k) people in 3 stops this week.
You be wrong. You'd be really wrong if the basic media(mainstream ABC, CBS, NBC) covered him at all. He gets brief mentions on those Nightly News when he just turned out 70,000(15, 28, 27k) people in 3 stops this week.
yeah, next i'll get told sports curses are real and that ghosts exist in the long, wet fart of CNN pretending Lil B's endorsement matters at all in the Democratic primary
i'd be wrong if you actually pointed out anyone mentioned in the same breath as a wang, sabato, linzer, or silver rather than linking to a video full of media pundits
and i'd be even wronger if ron paul's campaigns hadn't unfolded exactly like this in the last two cycles
Lil B drops Hillary for Bernie. It's over guys.
salty much?
Yeah, it's totally the same considering that event was about two-thirds less than what Bernie turned out tonight in LA, that event was 8 months later in the election cycle(April 2012) and Paul was in his second go around(name recognition) for President vs. Bernie's first and only needed attempt.
You failed on all accounts.
Woot woot. I did the same. Feels good doesn't it?Fuck it, I'm changing my party affiliation and voting for Bernie. His speech is getting to me.
Good. I was worried about his potential stances on Palestine as well.
yeah it's totally not the same that an ideological minority within one of the major parties is working itself up into a tizzy, trying to convince themselves that a guy with approximately zero support from the biggest components of the party base has the Big Mo' because he's delivering speeches to overwhelming-majority-white audiences in large cities 6 months before any primaries. you got me.
My argument was to counter your argument of Bernie being Ron Paul but since you wanted to change the goalposts when proven wrong...that's fine.
you may want to point out where this actually happens in that quote
salty that everyone seems to have developed another messiah complex eight years after the last one, and in spite of the fact that he turned out to have a totally realistic two terms as president rather than smiting partisanship, a complete joke of a health care system, and an economic recession from his floating fortress? probably
You may want to change your initial statement that Bernie Sanders is Ron Paul. And Bernie Sanders' support is equivalent to Ron Paul's support. Post #420.
as if hillary would've done much different
then you may want to reread that post, given that it was given a clarification edit before you even responded to it.
speaking of support levels, here's another fast fact: clinton's lead looks smaller than it actually is because pollsters are still including joe biden for no apparent reason
Nationally? Perhaps. But most state wide polls where Sanders is gaining momentum do not include Biden anymore.
For instance, PPP last Iowa poll does not include Biden and yet the difference between Sanders (25%) and Clinton (52%) has gone down 22 points since April.
The trend is pretty obvious, and coming the debate the results may improve. So the enthusiasm is not grounded in delusions, I would say.
now that's a fair point and i appreciate that you're actually coming at me with real data
but at the same time, i'm not sure there's an obvious trend toward an actual shot at him winning beyond Iowa/NH to begin with (partly because practically no other state's getting polled even semi-regularly, and largely because both of those states aren't particularly demographically representative of the Dem base).
not to mention this is coming with clinton refusing to actually campaign beyond sporadic policy platform releases, which i'd expect to change nearabouts the debate.
i appreciate that Bernie's trending into a very strong second because practically all of this country's overton windows need a sharp shift to the left sooner rather than later, but that's basically all the trend's really showing so far.
I know this is a Sanders thread but people brought Hillary into it so fuck it.
Is Hillary generally considered to be a good speaker? I was just thinking about how I couldn't remember what she sounded like when spitting from a podium so I looked up a video. I don't get it.
i haven't sat down and watched any of her speeches but the few snippets i've heard just sound kind of disinterested and not emotional at all whereas what i've heard of bernie is always more spirited and in the moment.
I know this is a Sanders thread but people brought Hillary into it so fuck it.
Is Hillary generally considered to be a good speaker? I was just thinking about how I couldn't remember what she sounded like when spitting from a podium so I looked up a video. I don't get it.
I know this is a Sanders thread but people brought Hillary into it so fuck it.
Is Hillary generally considered to be a good speaker? I was just thinking about how I couldn't remember what she sounded like when spitting from a podium so I looked up a video. I don't get it.
i feel like sanders is the president america needs (and deserves), but not the one it will get. just pulling hillary left would be good though, especially if it helps frame the overall election in 2016 over values the left cares about like race, equality, and opportunity. even if he wins the nomination, i have a really hard time seeing him not getting blown the fuck out by a republican with billions of dollars backing them. and the optics of 74 year-old (75 year-old next year) bernie sanders up against a mid-40s slimeball like scott walker or marco rubio probably wouldn't be that positive. plus, if age was an issue regarding john mccain, i can't see how it wouldn't be with sanders.
Are you serious? I'm not from the USA, but I'm a libertarian and I don't know any libertarian who would vote for a statist like this guy.
I'm hoping he comes to St. Louis.
Yeah, I think Bernie could alleviate most age concerns with a solid VP pick. I don't know who that would be though. Ideally you'd want someone ideologically similar, but most prominent young democrats seem to be considerably to the right of Bernie.
Yeah, I think Bernie could alleviate most age concerns with a solid VP pick. I don't know who that would be though. Ideally you'd want someone ideologically similar, but most prominent young democrats seem to be considerably to the right of Bernie.
I think given this weekend, a trip to Ferguson would be risky but necessary. To win, Bernie's going to have to take a bunch of risks and have them all pay out. He's still a longshot, but Hillary has to be sunk before she can lose in the general
for VP Jim Webb or Claire McCaskill I think would be solid choices for Bernie. If Kay Hagan had won I'd say she would be a solid pick (VA/NC would be a must for Bernie in a general)
I know folks are worried about the minority vote- but what swing states would a lower black turnout hurt Bernie in the most, and would he be helped by a larger percentage of the white vote (Bernie WILL do better among whites than Obama, and probably Hillary)