Why is Hillary guaranteed to win?

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This sentiment has been bandied about a lot on this board - that it is a foregone conclusion that Hillary Clinton will be the next president of the United States. Why? Why is she guaranteed to win?

Please explain to this layman why her winning is an inevitability.
 
I don't think the conversation has been "guaranteed" to win the presidency, but rather "guaranteed" to win the democratic nomination, but even that is foolish talk.
 

FiggyCal

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Because she is the most qualified and the powers that be are in love with her. Plus yeah. Look at her opposition right now. Trump is leading.
 

WalkMan

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This sentiment has been bandied about a lot on this board - that it is a foregone conclusion that Hillary Clinton will be the next president of the United States. Why? Why is she guaranteed to win?

Please explain to this layman why her winning is an inevitability.

She's shown aptitude with dealing corruption and being able to get away with it.
 

Konka

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This sentiment has been bandied about a lot on this board - that it is a foregone conclusion that Hillary Clinton will be the next president of the United States. Why? Why is she guaranteed to win?

Please explain to this layman why her winning is an inevitability.

Because the States that Kerry won in 2004 are practically guaranteed for the democrats and she has several combinations from the following that Obama won in 2008 or 2012:

Nevada
Colorado
New Mexico
Iowa
Ohio
Florida
Virginia
North Carolina

Several of the states she is leading comfortably in and are moving towards democrat lean due to changing demographics.

EDIT: There are combinations of states I meant.

Ohio, Florida would do it on their own but she can lose both and win Nevada + Colorado + New Mexico or Virginia + New Mexico + Nevada or Virginia + Colorado or Iowa + Colorado + Nevada or Iowa + Virginia etc...you get the point.
 
Blah blah blah centrist, blah blah blah SCOTUS appointments, blah blah blah Hillary is actually a liberal even if her record doesn't say so.

She got mad dosh, yo
 
She is the inevitable great leader of these United States of America. She would have been our dear leader in 2008 but along came one of the greatest motivational speakers of our time (Barry Hussein). Assuming another Obama doesn't come along, she's a shoe in because everyone wants her husband back in the White House.
 

Anastasia

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Because it didn't seem like she had any real competition. Now that Bernie has picked up momentum, and Biden might jump in, who knows what will happen.
 

ISOM

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Republican field is a joke and the country is becoming more lucrative for Democrats on a voting level. Honestly I would pick any Democrat winning in a general election over a republican as long as the Democrat didn't mess up big time or have a scandal.
 

tanooki27

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This sentiment has been bandied about a lot on this board - that it is a foregone conclusion that Hillary Clinton will be the next president of the United States. Why? Why is she guaranteed to win?

Please explain to this layman why her winning is an inevitability.

she is not guaranteed to win the presidency. almost no one believes that. one would have to be a fool to believe that.

you'd be an equal fool to believe she won't win the democratic nomination. she simply has the best chance to win the general.
 
Because at the very least she is going to win Iowa and Virginia along with traditional democratic floor (Kerry's electoral vote). That will give her the presidency.
 

L33T

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She gets the kids.

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Its going under a few assumptions:

1. That the voter demographic for 2008 and 2012 isn't radically different. 51-52% are voting democratic, 47% or so are voting republican. Out of these probably 45% on each side are "locked" into their side, they will vote for that party pretty much for every office no matter who the candidate is. I am making up these numbers just based on recollection of past data, but its fairly close. There is definitely at least 70% of the country is locked into one side and will always vote for "their side" no matter what.

2. As the first female presidential candidate, there will be a strong support base among women similar to how blacks supported obama. Black people make up 13% of the US population, whereas women are 50%. The numbers probably skew even better for women when you factor in only people who vote.

3. That the republican candidate may end up being alienating towards a large group, whether its hispanics, blacks, poor, secular, etc. Basically the republican base of white, christian conservatives is shrinking every year not growing.

4. The economy is doing pretty good, people will vote for "less change" than "more change" if things seem pretty decent. Throw in oil prices, etc here.

The cons would be:

1. A lot of people are not happy with Hillary Clinton as a choice, and just stay home instead of going out to vote. In this case the people who really don't like Hillary go out to vote (against her) and whoever the opposing candidate is, wins.

2. The economy tanks between now and Nov 2016 and voters decide to vote in someone who is more aligned with business than government.

3. A lot of the people who voted in 2008 and 2012 are disillusioned with Obama's presidency and stay home. The young, hispanics, etc.

4. crazy conspiracy theories about how corporations, billionaires, etc rig the elections against a democrat
 
it has more to do with the Republican side eating each other alive.
Republican prmairies have turned into a competition on who is more "Right" and they tear each other down on not being Conservative enough and are quick to dig up dirt on a GOP candidte's past comments that may be perceived as "Liberal" comments.

Such as Jeb Bush's more lineant comments about immigration in the past was used against him.

Trump's past comments on being Pro-Choice (even iff he hates abortion) has been used against him

Also, positions taken during the GOP debates that seem to be too far to the right can be used against them.

We all know that Republican Nomniees return closer to the Center during the Presidential but their Ultra-Right comments blurted out one year prior is fresh enough to hold them down.


+ You have Donald Trump threatening to run as an Independent if he doesn't win the nomination. Ross Perot effect 2.0
 

Ecotic

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She's not. This election is going to be close if Republicans can nominate someone decent like Kasich or Rubio. Hillary is not a good candidate and Obama has a middling approval rating (45%) that may improve enough to win or it may slide if a run of bad world events happen or economic conditions stagnate. Despite this Democrats are in good position to win a third term if the fundamental conditions hold until election day.
 

Kusagari

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Because every Republican with a chance at the nomination is an extremist joke.

Even someone like Rubio has now decided to come out against abortion in all cases.

They're not winning a general with these views.
 

120v

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She's not "garaunteed" but there are factors too strong in her favor to ignore:

current demographics of presidential elections favor democrats, and she's the likely nominee

Clown shoes gop primary

Economic recovery going relatively well on Obama's watch. projected to improve.

Clinton + Obama campaign machine will be SSJ3 to the GOP's Yaumcha
 

spock

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Shes not guaranteed squat. I get not the best vibes from her as have others who sorta kind of support her but would rather Bernie. Shes no Obama (Voted for him twice). The trust thing and the fact shes so much of politician is going to work against her. Here in New Hampshire she has some support but its FAR from being a given or rock solid.
 

obin_gam

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Bernie may have the more good ideas, but he's a dweeb and will get oblitirated by the GOPs candidate.
Hillary won't.

On the other side of the fence... GOP is a circus.
 

rjinaz

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In before NeoXChaos

She's not guaranteed anything. As much as a lot of folks on gaf like to pretend otherwise, the republican party is strong and resonates with a lot of voters. The Bush name is going to go a long ways for Jeb. Trump also has the potential to get the nod.

On top of that she has strong opposition in Sanders and quite possibly Biden.

I will say she likely has the best chance as of right now, but nothing is for certain especially this early on.
 

Azuran

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Because the majority of people here don't actually actively follow politics so they just parrot what they read from the users that actually do.
 
she's not guaranteed.

but despite all of the recurring bengazi and email themes, nobody else is coming on strong.

it looks like amateur hour outside of her.
 
She's not guaranteed shit, stop watching only liberal news outlets. I'm not suggesting Fox news as your go to source of info, but balance your intake.
 
This is why I think Bernie can win, if he gets the nomination.

If Sanders is the nominee. Nevada is competitive because he has zero pull with hispanics, same with Virginia and the black vote. Now factor in all those white voters that lean conservative on many issues in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, etc.

Could be a Mccain-like blowout loss for him.
 
because her competition on the right is a shit show that won't play in a general election by continuing to talk about rape, abortion, gay marriage and other issues that most people have already put to bed.
 

Severance

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I think it has more to do with the fact that the Republican party doesn't have a candidate with mass appeal. I mean here we are talking about Trump, Ted Cruz and Bobby Jindal. As an independent voter the democrats would automatically get my vote if the republicans run with any of those guys. I don't think they will, thankfully.. But you never know. No one else appears ready to jump to the forefront.

However, its still so early for the presidential elections. its all about names and reputation, not tangible results. Hilary has the name of a very beloved President in his time, and quite the resume. She was very close getting the democratic nod in 2008. And she has no real competition...yet. Candidates are still establishing themselves. Time is ticking though
 
Because Bernie consolidated the left wing of the liberal parties support and has probably stopped rising at about 30% support.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/the-bernie-sanders-surge-appears-to-be-over/

In the general election, the Republican path to victory includes winning all swing states and picking up some dem strongholds. It's just not a good playing map for the Red team anymore.

If Sanders is the nominee. Nevada is competitive because he has zero pull with hispanics, same with Virginia and the black vote. Now factor in all those white voters that lean conservative on many issues in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, etc.

Could be a Mccain-like blowout loss for him.


Now I'm depressed. =[
 

I would turn Iowa and Colorado blue. Kasich is the only GOPer that has the remote chance of flipping Ohio, and he has very little chance of showing up on the ticket. Florida could go either way, but it depends on whether or not Bush or Rubio are on the ticket. Walker, by himself, would probably lose Florida unless he picks up Rubio as a running mate, but even that's not guaranteed.

Hillary's map would likely look very close, if not identical, to Obama's in 2012.
 
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