Veritigo_X
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My mistake. It seemed like you were agreeing with the poster you quoted.
CNN poll : Donald Trump now competitive in general election
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My mistake. It seemed like you were agreeing with the poster you quoted.
Extra Sauce
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I'm pro-Sanders and anti-Republican but I will say that Trump seems more honest than Hillary. She seems so fake. I can never tell what she thinks, or whether she has any real conviction.
If it really could somehow come down to Trump vs. Sanders. I honestly think Trump would win.
Sanders is too far to the left to make a move for the general election voters.
I think this is why they are actively looking for someone to run now and push instead of Hilary. The email scandal/general unenthusiastic views has them worried.
Sanders is too far to the left to make a move for the general election voters.
I think this is why they are actively looking for someone to run now and push instead of Hilary. The email scandal/general unenthusiastic views has them worried.
CyclopsRock
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I think people - of all political stripes, though recently it's been more of a left wing thing - vastly over-estimate the importance of who's in charge vs their actual life. Not that this is even close to be done, but it often happens at elections where people throw their toys out the pram and then a week late go back to their lives, where basically everything is the same. Obviously there are exceptions, but in general I think this is the case.
I know, right? This is something Sanders and Trump share and what gives them a lot of power, even if it's in vastly different form. Honesty and straightforwardness instead of a opputrunist politican that turns with the political wind. The flair of not being able to be corrupted is sweet.
I would say that more people would resent Trump. If it came to these two people would maybr actually look at what Bernie was and is doing.
Damerman
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Tell that to the millions upon millions of americans who now have a legit marriage across all 50 states and all the day-to-day implications that might mean.
Tell that to the millions of sub-30 years of age now-americans who were allowed citizenship through executive order.
A president has immediate impact on peoples' lives.
sssstententen
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I just had lunch with a bunch of guys in my unit and a ton of them saw him as a legitimately good canndidate and said they'd vote for him.
You have to say he's smart in that he's somehow convincing the public he'd be a good president.
You have to say he's smart in that he's somehow convincing the public he'd be a good president.
Veritigo_X
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Obama already did this. People already forget his inauguration speech.
speculawyer
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That is kinda scary.
Demon Lizardman
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So are all future presidents going to be memes? I really am hoping Hilary is finding a strategy to get more votes.
Apologies my friend, well we do need someone to carry the torch for waifus going into 2016.
Yassss, Chillary
Henchmen21
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Lol yup. What's even more funny is that the people saying Trump didn't have a chance ("He won't survive after insulting Latinos", "He won't survive after insulting McCain","He won't survive the first debate" etc...) are the same saying Bernie doesn't stand a chance.
I am always amused by this view in elections. No one should run their politics based on making other people happy. If Trump happens to be the best option for America then America should vote for him. Not avoid him cause Europe or Asia doesn't like him and thinks it would be a horrible idea...
Yes and no. The president has more power than any person in the country but his power is not absolute and immediate. He still has to have the support of House and Senate. He isn't a dictator that can go fuck all you I'll do what I want. That's why all the checks and balances exist in the US system to begin with.
Veritigo_X
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When have I heard this before...?
Fine Ham Abounds
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If it wasn't for the fact that the US electorate has a long track record of electing dangerously disturbed vapid cheerleaders I wouldn't be concerned
Since most debates are completely devoid of content and usually boil down to one liners, constantly trying to create a catchy jingle out of something your opponent said once while on the toilet, and who can showboat the loudest, Hillary is in trouble
Since most debates are completely devoid of content and usually boil down to one liners, constantly trying to create a catchy jingle out of something your opponent said once while on the toilet, and who can showboat the loudest, Hillary is in trouble
Ganzlinger
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What a time to be alive!
Trump now has the recognition, if he gets more serious and a little more moderate, throwing off the nonsense, he could win this with the support of the independent vote.
Trump now has the recognition, if he gets more serious and a little more moderate, throwing off the nonsense, he could win this with the support of the independent vote.
akidnamededdy
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I'll help you pack. Not because I particularly care to have Trump as president but because I'm sick of hearing this stupid empty promise and would love to see someone actually follow through.
Get real.
Publishing a Kill la Kill game would already be enoughDaily Reminder:
Not only that. But with our usual 2 party system. It swings back and forth every 4-16 years. Will they move back in 4 years if he's voted out etc...
More like a toy train vs a wall of marshmallows. Two practically unelectable candidates throwing it down. Expect record low voter turnout.
Ambition
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RastaMentality
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Someone should actually complete and document the process.
The intensity of the struggle between the entities remain the same if you're scaling down in equal ratio
Also I disagree completely about the voter turnout. I feel it will be quite the opposite.
outunderthestars
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I don't really care what she thinks or her convictions. I care about her announced platform.
I actually would move. My wife and I are discussing applying for a move to a Western European country or maybe Canada. Since Obama took office I've been absolutely disgusted by this country. Not because of his presidency, but because of the racism, hatred, and utter disregard for their fellow Americans that his opponents have shown.
Trump winning would be the deciding factor for us.
Epsilon-delta
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Preach. Trump is a known racist and people still like him. Sanders, an avowed socialist, has no chance in the general election.
So people are willing to elect a racist over a socialist?
America in a nutshell.
Two candidates incredibly unpopular with minorities and women who have tons of baggage that makes them the boogieman of the undecided electorate?The intensity of the struggle between the entities remain the same if you're scaling down in equal ratio
Also I disagree completely about the voter turnout. I feel it will be quite the opposite.
Yeah I would expect record lows from that throwdown.
PlayALLtheGames
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It doesn't matter because the GOP is not going to give Trump the nomination.
*reverse psychology&*
*reverse psychology&*
outunderthestars
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People say that they are moving every election. I remember tons of people claiming that they would move after Bush Jr won the office.
Minorities voting for Hillary does not mean Bernie is "incredibly" unpopular with them.
Most still have no idea who he even is.
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Strobelite.Bunny
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To be honest I can't imagine it worse than Hilary winning.
Yeah, aren't many BLM-groups very satisfied with how Bernie Sanders handled the incursions? And I think Clintons handling of the BLM group visiting her was blank at best.
PlayALLtheGames
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Then you're not trying hard enough.
Honestly, what is with these statements? Just look at the stance of both on the main issues. With Trump it's a little harder because all he does is talk about how he's going to be great without any real plans, but that alone should tell you he's not going to be a good pick.
Here's Trump on two issues:
Trump on immigration: deport all the illegals (because they're rapists and murderers), build a wall (huge waste of money) and make Mexico pay for it (lol)
Literally, if Hillary was to do NOTHING on immigration it'd be a better plan than that.
Trump on foreign policy: Iran deal should have been done in a day, China and Mexico are beating us at everything, I'd make China do whatever we want and bill Mexico for each illegal immigrant, bomb Iraqi oil fields to stop ISIS, then take the oil fields for ourselves so that "we'd have so much money."
AGAIN, if Hillary was to do absolutely fucking nothing, that would be a better strategy and keep America safer.
So, it's ridiculous for anyone to be talking about, "I can't imagine it'd be worse than Hillary." Yes, it'd be worse. Much fucking worse.
Strobelite.Bunny
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Most of the time if a states popular vote is lopsided the electorate will choose that candidate.It's not a completely unfair process.
alexandros
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I find american politics utterly fascinating.
outunderthestars
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Please elaborate what parts of Hillary's platform would be terrible.....
Veritigo_X
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My money is on "she's out of touch."
Apparently people are willing to vote for him if their boy Bernie Sanders doesn't get the nomination over Hillary.
Because he "speaks his mind" and is a president "you would want to have a beer with".
That's just plain ignorant. The text books your kids are educated on, who you can marry, job prospects, and so much more can be flipped by the government. There are so many daily examples in the news I'm not sure how you can come to this conclusion.
alexandros
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I mean, what's the worst that could happen?
It doesn't.
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