SPOILER: Spoiler Metal Gear Solid V (TPS) Spoiler Thread (Contains Spoilers, Thanos).

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BreezyLimbo said:
Huey is a smart man

He's a smart, misogynistic, fucking asshole, pathetic cuck who tries to kill Emma because 'muh son fucked my wife'.

It's like..it's fucking fantastic. I legitimately like that. That he's like a bad trope of a jealous genius who gets jealous and does shitty things because 'fuck you I'm a genius'.
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Didn't know about Strangelove but I like Huey way more than Otacon personally.

Huey's an asshole but Otacon is just fucking useless lol
 
Mendrox said:
Reported both. lol

So the game finally leaked... uff...
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So is Huey one of the most evil, pathetic people in Metal Gear now?

If Otacon was this bitter then in MGS1 after offing Sniper Wolf, when you go through the furnace he'd just run up behind Snake and push him in the lava.
 
Mendrox said:
Okay I only reported one with bad quality. Or none? Who knows. Maybe my post isn't real or it was my clone?

Twitch will ban them so we gotta wait for some real streamers with equipment to stream on hitbox.
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The first guy gave his hitbox acct just incase he got reported by party poopers
 
BossDarkseid said:
So is Huey one of the most evil, pathetic people in Metal Gear now?

If Otacon was this bitter then in MGS1 after offing Sniper Wolf, when you go through the furnace he'd just run up behind Snake and push him in the lava.
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Snake:"OTACON WHAT ARE YOU DOING"
Otacon:"YOU KILLED MY TRUE LOVE"
Snake:"OTACON SHE WAS TRYING TO KILL ME"
Otacon:"LIQUID PROMISED HE'D BRING HER BACK, NANOMACHINES"
*Push*
 
No way Ahab is BB. The guy looks like a rookie.

Ishmael is battle hardened, does all the right things and saves his life a lot. It wouldn't surprise me if he's teaching Gray Fox the ropes here. And they become buddies in the future. Doubt Ishmael is an illusion, he barricades stuff and everything.

Kiefer sounds great though.
 
Why do people know anything about Huey? Who on Earth cares that much about the story in Peace Walker? Y'all are on jenkem or somethin honestly.

He's just an Otacon surrogate because Kojima needs to have all the same pieces in play if he's going to tell a story.
 
PezDispenser said:
It seems so obvious that I'm thinking it must be a red herring? Surely Kojima wouldn't telegraph his twists so clearly?
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Most twists are pretty clear once you know about them. Half of the enjoyment you get out of them is re-playing/rewatching/reading something and finding all the clues.
 
Ok, I got myself pretty spoiled yesterday, so I'm just gonna ask a series of yes or no questions to verify what I heard, but I don't want any context. I can at least have that.

Is Venom Snake a different man than Big Boss?

Do you spend the game playing as Venom Snake as opposed to Big Boss?

Is Big Boss already dead by the time the game starts?

The game doesn't end with Operation Intrude N313, does it?
 
Krabboss said:
Most twists are pretty clear once you know about them. Half of the enjoyment you get out of them is re-playing/rewatching/reading something and finding all the clues.
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Well I mean using the same exact voice, sneaking around the hospital dispensing veteran advice like a pro all while his face is conveniently obscured? I feel like I would've guessed that right away even if I knew nothing
 
Maybe its not really meant as a twist once you load up the game. The identity of Ishmael isn't confirmed, but its all very ambigious. The game likely doesn't hide the latter.
 
justjim89 said:
Ok, I got myself pretty spoiled yesterday, so I'm just gonna ask a series of yes or no questions to verify what I heard, but I don't want any context. I can at least have that.

Is Venom Snake a different man than Big Boss?

Do you spend the game playing as Venom Snake as opposed to Big Boss?

Is Big Boss already dead by the time the game starts?

The game doesn't end with Operation Intrude N313, does it?
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1. It is highly suspected that Venom Snake is not Big Boss, though nothing is 100% confirmed.
2. You seem to spend most if not all the game as whoever is Venom Snake.
3. Probably not considering it shows up in later games.
4. Probably not, there's been no rumors relating to that at all.
 
REPOSTED FOR NEWCOMERS WATCHING THE STREAMS, LATEST INFO IN BOLD!

The official Italian version of the The Phantom Pain guide printed by Piggyback states the following points.

This information is from these pictures and Twitter conversations with PumaWarrior on the MGS Reddit (AKA Batmariafg), who owns the original manual and took these pictures:

http://batmariafg.imgur.com

Videos proving the validity of the these pictures were also upload by PumaWarrior and can be seen here, where information has additionally been taken from:

http://a.pomf.cat/vmqfmv.mp4

http://a.pomf.cat/qzeauc.mp4

I am semi-fluent in Italian and have personally translated a lot of these points myself from the pictures in the link.

Other native Italian speakers have also verified the below points.

Thanks to Crossing Eden, Sickboy007, DevilFox on here and Sangivstheworld and Damnfiddles over on the MGS Reddit for further translating and organising some of this information.

GENERAL

  • Avatar creation is for the online elements only.
  • The are 50 main missions.
  • There are 157 side missions.
  • The alternate name of the ST-84 Metal Gear is confirmed to be the Sahelathropus.
  • The ST-84's cockpit is so small that only a child can pilot it.
  • The ST-84 Metal Gear has 6 body parts. Every part has its own life bar and destroying each part gives different advantages.
  • There is a mission where you have to recover the AI mammal pod from Peace Walker.
  • Zero orders Dr. Strangelove, who now works for DARPA, to develop The Patriots' AI to keep his control over the world.
  • In the penultimate mission of the main story, you must make contact with and recover Code Talker. Code Talker is being guarded by The Skulls.
  • The final mission of the main story is against the Metal Gear, which is being controlled by "The Third Child".
  • The guide says it's safe to assume that Eli is Liquid Snake.
  • Eli's codename is White Mamba.
  • The map confirms there are three main locations; Afghanistan, Africa and Mother Base.
  • Mission 46 is missing from from the guide. It does exist, but the player has to fulfill very specific conditions to access it. Konami asked Piggy Back to not to reveal how to unlock the mission or detail it's content. However, Piggy Back will gradually supply information and updates online as they become available. The website will be www.piggyback.com/it/mgsv or the player can use a Quick Response code.
  • Most S Rank times for missions are around 10-15 minutes. The secret mission S Rank time is 30 minutes.
  • 12 secret tapes are unlocked by completing the secret mission.
  • A Cyborg Ninja outfit can be unlocked.
  • There are 19 soldiers that will join Motherbase voluntarily if you have a Ground Zeroes save. The Eye and The Finger are two of these recruits and the other 17 join you you by Mission 12.
  • With a Ground Zeroes save and the Deja Vu mission from GZ completed, a Solid Snake outfit will be unlocked.
SKULLFACE
  • The guide states that Skullface is the main antagonist of Ground Zeroes and The Phantom Pain and that he was born in Hungary, where his parents worked in a secret weapons factory.
  • During the bombing of the weapons factory he was knocked down and trampled on by terrified crowds fleeing in search of safety. This caused Skullface very serious injuries.
  • Abandoned in critical condition and without any possibility of cure with conventional means, he survived thanks to a innovative therapy with parasites. However, this therapy also it caused his deformation and damage to his nervous system, meaning he can no longer feel pain.
  • He was then recruited in secret by Major Zero and his mandate with the XOF unit was to watch over Big Boss and make sure that his important missions didn't fail. This includes Operation Snake Eater from Metal Gear Solid 3.
  • Working for Zero and watching over Big Boss for many years led to him resenting the two of them, particularly Zero.
  • Skullface attacks Mother Base in 1975 during the events of Ground Zeroes and tries to kill Big Boss by implanting bombs inside Paz
  • When Skullface discovers that Zero and Strangelove are making The Partriot AI, he develops a parasite that infects peoples' voice boxes and stops them from speaking. This parasite is developed by Code Talker, who has the cure, but does want to share it.
  • The Cobra Unit from MGS3 were the begininning of Code Talker's experimentations with these parasites.
  • Because of the information supplied by Paz at the end of Ground Zeroes, Skullface finds Zero and infects him with the parasite. This causes Zero to slowly go into a vegetive state.
  • Skullface plans to spread the parasite using the ST-84 Metal Gear.
  • Skullface nearly completes his plan, but his overthrown by "The Third Child" after Mantis becomes enraged by Eli's presence in the XOF helicopter.
  • Skullface is crushed by the ST-84 Metal Gear and Miller and Big Boss decide to leave him to die, so he can suffer.
  • However, Huey ignores this idea and finally kills Skullface.
BIG BOSS/AHAB
  • The guide strongly suggests through clues that the Medic from Ground Zeroes is the version of Big Boss who awakens from the coma in the hospital. This version of Big Boss is known as Ahab.
  • The guide notes that Big Boss and the Medic have similar voices, so he is a strong candidate for being the version of Big Boss/Ahab that awakens from the coma in hospital.
  • The guide continues by saying that in Ground Zeroes, the Medic is one of Big Boss' "most trusted men".
  • The guide also says that the Big Boss we see on the operating table in the "Don't you die on me dammit!" scene from the trailers does not have shrapnel in his head. The guide suggests that the Medic is the person to most likely have the shrapnel in his head, while also being the same hospital room, as he protected Big Boss from the Paz's bomb blast in the chopper in Ground Zeroes.
  • Huey is not sure of Big Boss/Ahab's identity when he first meets him.
  • The guide says that the version of Big Boss/Ahab that awakens from the coma in hospital has a DNA test done with Eli. Their DNA does not match. The guide goes on to state that since Eli is a clone of the real Big Boss, their DNA should match. The guides says this again gives a glue to Ahab's identity.
  • The guide notes that when Eli asks Ocelot where his father is, Ocelot replies that "Your father isn't here". This is despite the fact that Ahab is watching their conversation behind a two-way mirror.
  • These images of the official guide from UK based store Game, further confirm there is a Big Boss with his left arm intact in The Phantom Pain. Instead of shrapnel, this version of Big Boss also appears to have a "V" shaped scar on the right side of his forehead.

    http://img.game.co.uk/images/content/SpecialEditions/MGSVTPPCollectorsGuide.jpg

    http://img.game.co.uk/ml2/4/0/6/3/406318_scr3_a.png

    http://www.game.co.uk/en/metal-gear...rs-edition-strategy-guide-only-at-game-653197

    This image is a cleaner version of the this picture from the Italian guide:

    http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20150823013609/metalgear/images/2/20/S0FRdxk.jpg
ISHMAEL
  • The guide doesn't definitely say who Ishmeal is. Konami and Kojima Production asked Piggyback, the creators of the guide, not to reveal it. Ishmael's identity is revealed in an optional mission after the main story has ended.
  • The guide does however, go over some fan theories and gives clues towards the true identity of Ishmael.
  • The guide discusses the theory that Ishmael is imaginary. It says that this can't be the case as Quiet sees Ishmael when she comes to assassinate the version of Big Boss/Ahab that awakens from the coma in the hospital.
  • The guides further states that as Big Boss/Ahab is sat in the left-hand seat of the right-hand driven ambulance that's used to escape the hospital, Ishamel must be real.
  • However, Ishmael suddenly disappears when the ambulance crashes. Ocelot rescues Big Boss/Ahab from the ambulance after the crash. Big Boss/Ahab asks Ocelet who Ishmael was, but Ocelot deliberately ignores the question.
  • The guide says that the fact that there are "The Star of Bethlehem" lilies in the Ishmael's and Big Boss/Ahab's room is a strong clue to the real identity of Ishmael. The guide also states that these lilies hold a significance to The Boss.
  • When Ahab sees the ghost of Paz the first time at Mother Base, he has an hallucination where there are clearly two versions of Big Boss on the chopper.
QUIET

  • Quiet's hearing is ten times more sensitive than normal soldiers.
  • Her vision is unaffected by time of day, so there is no difference in her sight between night and day.
  • Quiet leaves you after mission 43 and to finish her story you will have to find her after the main story is over.
  • Quiet goes to the hospital to kill Big Boss at the start of the game and speaks while doing so. She specifically says "Not yet. The patient in the next bed saw my face" in regards to if she has assassinated Big Boss/Ahab.
  • Quiet is the carrier of the vocal cord parasites.
  • She was badly injured during the hospital attack in the Prologue, but her abilities were enhanced by these parasites. [/B]
  • Quiet doesn't talk out of respect for Big Boss.
  • After she leaves Diamond Dogs, Big Boss goes to find her in an optional mission. He succeeds but he's then bitten by a poisonous snake while escaping. Quiet must speak during this mission in order to save Big Boss.
  • At the end of this mission, Quiet disappears alone into the desert.
  • Water has a negative affect of Quiet's powers.
  • If you spray Quiet with water she will "writhe", because the parasites inside her are absorbing the water. She also reacts to rain.
  • The guide states that Big Boss' relation with Quiet is based on mutual respect and has no traditional romantic connotation. It goes on to say that this doesn't diminish the importance of their relationship or Quiet's sacrifice when saving Big Boss.
  • Quiet has an optional Sniper Wolf outfit that can be unlocked.
HUEY AND DR. STRANELOVE
  • Dr. Strangelove is Octacon's mother.
  • Strangelove and Huey have a huge falling out after Huey's suggests using a young Octagon as a test subject for piloting the Sahelanthropous/ST-84 Metal Gear.
  • Dr. Strangelove dies after she accidentally gets stuck inside the mammal pod and Huey lets her suffocate inside.
  • Huey also somehow causes a parasite outbreak at Motherbase and is banished afterward.
  • Huey goes on to live after being banished from Motherbase and meets Emma's mother.
THE SKULLS
  • The are three versions of The Skulls; A fog Version, an armoured version and a camouflage version.
  • All versions of The Skulls have health that slowly regenerates over time.
  • Like Quiet, they also have a negative reaction to water and rain.
  • You can fulton every type of Skull, leading to different rewards.
  • After being fultoned, The Skulls are kept on the quarantine strut of Motherbase.
  • Like Quiet, they have perfect vision during night time and you can them breathing if you listen aiming with one of thier sniper rifles.
  • Destroying the "fog version" Skulls' body parts rapidly reduce their health and resistance.
  • Fultoning the "armoured version" Skulls will reward with the player with parasite enhanced armour.
  • Fultoning the "camouflage version" Skulls leads to the creation of an item that grants the player 30 seconds on invisibility.
  • The "camouflage version"'s body parts can't be destroyed, so headshots are the most useful way to defeat these Skulls.
THE "MAN ON FIRE"/VOLGIN
  • The "Man on Fire" is Volgin and he's being possessed by "The Third Child". You have to recover his body in Chapter 2.
  • Volgin is actually still alive at the end of MGS3, although he's in a coma and is clinically braindead.
  • Russian doctors recover Volgin's body after the events of MGS3 and keep him alive for scientific preservation.
  • After Volgin's body is recovered in Chapter 2, his body is kept on the quarantine strut of Motherbase.
  • However, his body is eventually crushed by the ST-84 Metal Gear's loading platform.
THE ENDING

NOTE: The excerpt of the guide that this translation is taken from does not clearly state which "Big Boss" is being referred to.

  • The guide states that at the end of The Phantom Pain, the parasite that mutates peoples' vocal chords infects Mother Base. This forces Big Boss to exterminate his soldiers to prevent a global catastrophe.
  • The guide continues by saying that although he takes on this responsibility without any apparent remorse, it's impossible from him to ignore the fact that he has contributed to these events. This causes him to unleash his "inner demon".
  • The guide states Big Boss becomes the antagonist gradually, slowly consumed by what happens to him until all that is left is his obsession.
  • After these events, Big Boss is more determined than ever to reinforce his troops, with the aim of forming a nation free from the governments' hegemony, a dream he will be on the verge of realising in the 1990's.
BOSS FIGHTS
  • THE SKULLS

    Fog Version - Missions 1 and 6.

    Armoured Version - Missions 16, 29 and (And 37, 42 on Extreme Difficulty Only).

    Camouflage Version - Missions 28 and 46.

  • QUIET

    Mission 11 (And 40 on Extreme Difficulty Only)

  • THE "MAN ON FIRE"

    Prologue and Mission 20

  • ELI

    Mission 23 (and Optional Mission 113).

  • SAHELANTHROPUS (METAL GEAR ST-84)

    Missions 12 and 31 (And Mission 50 on Extreme Difficulty Only)
MUSIC TAPES

The map from the guide also confirms that these are some of the music tapes that are collectable from different locations.

These are in addition to some of the other music tapes that have already been confirmed:
 
Easy_D said:
Wow. For me that's pretty much confirmation.
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Well, I believe it also says Time Paradox if you kill Sokolov or Ocelot in MGS 3. Ishmael does show up later in the hospital scene it would technically be a time paradox. I just thought it was amusing they would use it again.
 
So anyone remember the side ops mission where you rescue a duder from the facility and as you're taking him back, he's mumbling about BB... or something of that nature? Some sinister sounding shit. Does any of that pan out with what's being talked about now? Maybe it makes more sense?
 
When i saw this in the stream, i was thinking about the "Venom Snake is the Medic from the chopper" theory. I take it as another hint, but maybe it's just me.

 
Quiet's introduction was fantastic. I guess that explains why she's in that skimpy outfit in Afghanistan.

That poor nurse didn't deserve to die like that.
 
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