Yay!
(Although if last night's gaffer reappears I'll be jumping ship, because he's a bit further along if I'm not mistaken)
Heh.
Where did you hear that? If so, yeah, I won't be doing that either, haha.
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Yay!
(Although if last night's gaffer reappears I'll be jumping ship, because he's a bit further along if I'm not mistaken)
Heh.
Where did you hear that? If so, yeah, I won't be doing that either, haha.
MoonsaultSlayer
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S rank all missions for Raiden? Guess I'm never going to play in that skin...
MoonsaultSlayer
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I just hate horror / jump scares in games and movies. It can stop me from playing a game forever.
I almost stopped playing Arkham Knight because of the rooftop thing
How horror esque is the opening?
I asked the same in the non-spoiler thread. But I really want to know the details now.
I almost stopped playing Arkham Knight because of the rooftop thing
with the man-bat.
How horror esque is the opening?
I asked the same in the non-spoiler thread. But I really want to know the details now.
Is Quiet really more out of place than the other crazy nonsense in mgs? You can make the argument that her sexualization bothers you but the character and whatever ridiculous explanation Kojima came up with probably fit right in with the series.
Also, Kojima has always used the light hearted goofy shit as a palette cleanser for the darker themes so nothing has changed in that regard with mgs5. MGS is still MGS, six games in.
You know, I'm glad I clicke on the wrong thread a few days ago. This thread is gold and not because of the spoilers.
Anyway, I don't know how people actually expected a good reason for Quiet's outfit from Kojima. With our without an in universe explanation for it if he could've have gotten away with her being completely naked he would've done so.
Anyway, I don't know how people actually expected a good reason for Quiet's outfit from Kojima. With our without an in universe explanation for it if he could've have gotten away with her being completely naked he would've done so.
Spainkiller
the man who sold the world
1) You haven't played The Phantom Pain yet, so you're not capable or allowed to touch on its story telling.
2) Posting pictures doesn't grand your arguments more validity. Nice gimmick, though.
3) Your condescending and aggressive tone isn't necessary and is only making you look like you're overcompensating for your thin arguments.
It's not contextually out of place, as I've explained multiple times. Is it pervy, because Kojima could've come up with something else? Sure. Probably. But it's not contextually out of place, not narrative wise, and not compared to the other entries in the franchise.
I'm aware that you can't read, as there is no conflict. The "lighthearted" bits were referencing the older, more arcadey games, and the "war simulator" bit was referencing this new game, The Phantom Pain. In fact, that exact distinction was the exact point I was trying to make. But you were so busy tripping over yourself to get to your keyboard and reply in anger that you didn't even see what I was really saying. Thanks for proving my point, btw.
I think you could afford debate classes and a way to reply thoughtfully instead of emotionally.
Yes, and I never argued otherwise. Again: read my post. My point was that despite this artistic (and, sure, pervy?) decision, he created a context for that decision that validates it within the narrative of the game *and* the earlier conventions of the franchise. Does it change the sexualization? No. Does it make it easier to swallow? Definitely, unless you want to keep going on about how it should've been removed altogether (a.k.a. censorship) because being sexy is bad or condescending to people with vaginas, completely glossing over how powerful she is as a character and the fact that you don't even know what she'll end up wearing by the end and why. All of this which, again, has more to do with one's inability to deal with sex in media in general than the game itself.
Yes. And there's nothing wrong with that. I enjoy looking at a beautiful woman in a bikini. The problem is when it becomes the sole focus of advertisement or art, but that is not the case in TPP.
I really don't feel like repeating myself anymore; it's obvious you're not going to change your mind. You're obviously not looking for a proper discussion and the chance to maybe learn a thing or two; you're just here to shout at the pervy men who hate women because they enjoy their hyper depiction in media.
Whoops, actually, that's just an assumption, but one that is justified by your nasty posting style.
My argument is a very decent one and one with more facets than you're trying to play off, mister angry man. But I've shown you that now. I'm also glad you don't write stories for video games, because, honestly, through her hair!? At least the skin bit is believable, seeing as how there are animals who actually do that already.
Really GAFers, how do you put up with these people?
Oh, and one more thing: you can unlock outfits for Quiet later in the game. You can put your Bibles down.
No cheap jump scares from what I saw. The opening is more a mixture of action and creepiness verging on horror. The game is just really good at establishing a heavy mood very quickly.
Really enjoying so far! Have only done the first 3 missions, but have just been doing Side Ops. I do like the different objectives to each mission. I can see myself going back and completing them, e.g. kill the target from over 100m away (..,which I tried, and apparently failed earlier. Got a great shot in on my sniper rifle, but I guess it was within 100m).
Also - I tried to check my trophy progress but even after syncing, they're not showing on the PS4 OS? I've definitely unlocked some as they have popped up during gameplay. I am guessing they may not go live until release? Is this the same with anyone else?
Also - I tried to check my trophy progress but even after syncing, they're not showing on the PS4 OS? I've definitely unlocked some as they have popped up during gameplay. I am guessing they may not go live until release? Is this the same with anyone else?
I get what your saying with Quiets character, like I said I still have my reservations but I feel her story will be satisfying. I was never trying to argue that sexualisation of Quiet or any female characters in games is right, I was merely trying to say that I personally don't have a problem with it.
Kojima fucked up, he should have just said the character was designed that way becuase that's the way Shinkawa portrayed Kojima's description of her. Instead he says "you will be ashamed of your words and deeds" and when it comes to it the reason is photosynthesis. That side of the character I can fully agree with you when you say she's badly written.
You said there's a documentary? Where could I find it? I'm interested in watching it and not even because of what we are talking about, I'm actually curios.
V3n0m Sn4k3
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It's mission 26 and there's the epidemic starting on my base and staff members are dying and my teams are going down in levels WTF DO I DO?!!?!
Spainkiller
the man who sold the world
AGAIN: the reason is NOT photosynthesis. (That line was pretty much only there to have Ocelot reference The End.) Please remember this, because seeing it pop up due to a faulty interpretation of the leaker, is getting a bit old.
It's because she can only breathe through her skin; clothing suffocates her.
It's because she can only breathe through her skin; clothing suffocates her.
normalmode
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Listen to the latest tapes for clues.
WrenchNinja
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Convenient
Spainkiller
the man who sold the world
It sure is!
Just don't forget that convenience in itself isn't proof of laziness or a blatant negative agenda, despite what the people of CinemaSins might want you to believe.
Just don't forget that convenience in itself isn't proof of laziness or a blatant negative agenda, despite what the people of CinemaSins might want you to believe.
Box of Bunnies
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lol that you think people wanting better female representation in games instead of the usual exploitative perviness and creepshots are bible thumpers clutching their pearls over some breasts
General_Frags
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In the Hospital prologue she is searing clothes lol, from what I have seen from the streams.
Also bonus Sniper Wolf outfit too.
I agree with all of what you said but this is what stuck out to me.
You clearly know what your talking about when it comes to debating objectification/sexualisation of females in games (or media in general).
I was recently having a friendly debate with another gaffer in the community thread about the objectification of women and how I didn't have a problem with female characters being dressed up in skimpy outfits like Quiets, this lead me to tell him how if people continue to go on about "issues" like this it'll cause games to become censored by fans.
The one thing that didn't even cross my mind in bringing up was the fact that Quiet is this strong female character and Kojima's explanation (albeit a shit one) negates the fact that its sexualising Quiet due to it making sense within the games universe.
P.S. If I've ever came across as an angry poster I don't intend to.
Spainkiller
the man who sold the world
Except people don't want better (read: a balanced) female representation, as they keep ignoring all the normally dressed women in the game and the scantily dressed men.
They want to get rid of female sexualization. That is something else than "better representation". Compared to most games, TPP handles females very well.
EmCeeGramr
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Turn this spoiler thread back into a spoiler thread, or multiple people here are going to be missing the launch of the game.
Thank you.
We need more spoilery info, please? Let me make a mental note to spec out Mother Base by mission 26.
Crossing Eden
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Yabberwocky
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Kill them all, and let god sort them out!
(...yeah, I'd go with the tapes advice, that sounds good. My hyyyype.)
russian box
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Has anyone in here got online yet? also anyone playing on xbox one finding that the button prompts all just say press the square on a square button (formally the back button) instead of saying the button for the action its teaching you in the hospital prologue?
My copy came in the post today because monday is a bank holiday in the uk,
so me and lisa started the prologue,
I don't want to play the whole game for my channel but maybe select some nice missions to do.
if anyone in here wants to come see how we did its here
http://youtu.be/wsLz95o_G2g
My copy came in the post today because monday is a bank holiday in the uk,
so me and lisa started the prologue,
I don't want to play the whole game for my channel but maybe select some nice missions to do.
if anyone in here wants to come see how we did its here
http://youtu.be/wsLz95o_G2g
Ok, how hyped are you EmCee? All these spoilers have me mega hyped for the game!
The Sum of Zero
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Thank you for that.
Has anyone in here got online yet? also anyone playing on xbox one finding that the button prompts all just say press the square on a square button (formally the back button) instead of saying the button for the action its teaching you in the hospital prologue?
My copy came in the post today because monday is a bank holiday in the uk,
so me and lisa started the prologue,
I don't want to play the whole game for my channel but maybe select some nice missions to do.
if anyone in here wants to come see how we did its here
http://youtu.be/wsLz95o_G2g
Your channel is probably gonna be nuked by Konami. Be careful.
WrenchNinja
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So are the bosses at least better than Peacewalker and MGS4? Do they get decent build up? No lame post battle codec- *cough* I mean optional tape you have to listen to?
Has anyone in here got online yet? also anyone playing on xbox one finding that the button prompts all just say press the square on a square button (formally the back button) instead of saying the button for the action its teaching you in the hospital prologue?
My copy came in the post today because monday is a bank holiday in the uk,
so me and lisa started the prologue,
I don't want to play the whole game for my channel but maybe select some nice missions to do.
if anyone in here wants to come see how we did its here
http://youtu.be/wsLz95o_G2g
If your channel lasts more than a couple hours, I'd be surprised.
Nonetheless, watching your video because nobody is streaming >.<EDIT: Nevermind, you're talking over it
I'm out.2nd EDIT: I'm weak. I'm still watching, lol.
Sub_Level
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S rank all Ground Zeroes missions for Raiden? Including Hard mode?
Guess my homework this weekend involves more than college stuffs.
Also really hoping the Solid Snake costume is not the sneaking suit shown so far. Its not bad but I would rather have MGS1 or MGS2 style. Obviously it has to come with the bandana.
Guess my homework this weekend involves more than college stuffs.
Also really hoping the Solid Snake costume is not the sneaking suit shown so far. Its not bad but I would rather have MGS1 or MGS2 style. Obviously it has to come with the bandana.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Quiet boss fight looks tense as hell, one or two hits=death. The other two bosses the player was encouraged to run.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Fun fact: In the boss survival mode of MGS3, The End kills you in one hit.
stufte
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Has anyone in here got online yet? also anyone playing on xbox one finding that the button prompts all just say press the square on a square button (formally the back button) instead of saying the button for the action its teaching you in the hospital prologue?
My copy came in the post today because monday is a bank holiday in the uk,
so me and lisa started the prologue,
I don't want to play the whole game for my channel but maybe select some nice missions to do.
if anyone in here wants to come see how we did its here
http://youtu.be/wsLz95o_G2g
Post the next part, damnit!!
The Quiet fight on stream was boring. At that stage in the game if you only have the tranq pistol then I'd say don't bother trying to tranq her unless someone comes up with a better strategy than what's been shown so far.
You can actually use lethal weapons on her and still get the option to bring her back to MB afterwards. It probably just counts as a kill for the mission stats.
You can actually use lethal weapons on her and still get the option to bring her back to MB afterwards. It probably just counts as a kill for the mission stats.
russian box
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Really? they are doing that? but its actually out in some places / online orders. hmmmm
what was the deal with that GT guy, is he LPing it for 2 weeks?
I wouldn't want to do that, it becomes more of a chore than anything. so much recording and editing in such a short space :/
I tried to keep part 1 light on spoilers and things, but yeah maybe they'll try and take it down, the day after youtube gaming launched!If your channel lasts more than a couple hours, I'd be surprised.
EDIT: Nevermind, you're talking over it
2nd EDIT: I'm weak. I'm still watching, lol.
Have they been going after people? I've been keeping away from reading mgs stuff online recently
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
That sucks I hate one hit deaths.
*Remember, if you see the white light, get down* x50
ugggghhhhhhhh, stream chat.
Doesn't she die if you use lethal weapons? And I'm sure there are better strategies and faster for taking her out.
They have footage on lock down, going after any channel that posts it.
Yeah they're actively going to after streams and videos on yt, twitch, hitbox etc.
A question about the boss fights, does it show the health of the boss somewhere ingame like in the old games or is that part of the HUD like snakes healthbar completely gone?
No, I think you still get that cutscene at the end where you have the option to kill her or bring her back to MB, same as if you stamina drain her, but at the end of the mission stats it probably counts as a kill vs. no kill if you tranq her.
Not going to try to S rank everything on a first run anyway so just using a rifle might be less annoying for the first encounter.
russian box
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Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Don't know how it works for robots but Quiet had a health and stamina bar.
Yea i'm not gonna risk it. Does anyone know how to unlock the Sniper wolf costume?
Probably. I don't think it's up though.
Crossing Eden
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Think I found a video of the last gen version.
MissCauthon
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David Hayter, is he in the game in some form? voice i mean....
normalmode
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I got it by defeating her in the [EXTREME] version of her fight, eg. the one hit kill version.
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