fuck it, i'll board that hype train
Rumor (with a side of salt): Shovel Knight coming to Smash Wii U/3DS?
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fuck it, i'll board that hype train
Dr. Buni
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They denied the existence of the amiibo, so they saying no wouldn't mean much.
I guess it depends of when each amiibo will be released. Also, isn't the Yacht Club amiibo supposed to have limited copies?
MaverickHunterAsh
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Well, after today's events (or lack thereof), it would certainly seem that if Shovel Knight actually is coming, it's likelier to be sometime in the next couple of months and not necessarily this weekend. If that's the case, that kills my source, so there that goes!
That said... I have no idea what to make of the fact that Smash is going down for maintenance on Monday. They only announce maintenance beforehand when it's a big patch with new content, so regardless of what's happening with Shovel Knight, it certainly seems like something is happening on Monday. That's exciting too!
Either way, the Shovel Knight amiibo is so fucking cool. Day one for me.
That said... I have no idea what to make of the fact that Smash is going down for maintenance on Monday. They only announce maintenance beforehand when it's a big patch with new content, so regardless of what's happening with Shovel Knight, it certainly seems like something is happening on Monday. That's exciting too!
Either way, the Shovel Knight amiibo is so fucking cool. Day one for me.
NumberThree
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Why aren't you dreaming about it?
DICKS AHOY
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Because Burger King is called Hungry Jack's in my home country due to very weird legal reasons and instead of the lovably creepy 'king' mascot
or even the super duper PC burger king kids club
SatoAilDarko
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Wait. Your source said he was coming to Smash this weekend?
Has he given any reason to believe him or offered true information before?
MaverickHunterAsh
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Yes, they said this weekend (well, during PAX so technically Monday would count too). No, I have zero reason to believe them. I have specified the second point several times in this thread so that nothing I'm saying gets out of hand. Again, this is a completely random person who has never contacted me before and who could literally be anyone. It's best to assume they're trolling until proven otherwise.
My source being legit or not doesn't really affect Shovel Knight's chances either way, though. If my source is a troll, that's just my source. It has nothing to do with the allegedly reputable and verified sources that began these rumors in the first place.
BassForever
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Just a thought
Perhaps the Shovel Knight amiibo IS his Smash one but they're using "prototype" box art and model to hide that fact. Though the idea of SK getting a YCG amiibo and a smash one isn't too crazy either. All of this is assuming SK is eventually revealed for smash as part of the ballot.
Perhaps the Shovel Knight amiibo IS his Smash one but they're using "prototype" box art and model to hide that fact. Though the idea of SK getting a YCG amiibo and a smash one isn't too crazy either. All of this is assuming SK is eventually revealed for smash as part of the ballot.
This is not a Nintendo Amiibo, but a third party one like the Skylander ones. There is 0% of this materialising into a Smash Bros line Amiibo.
balladofwindfishes
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If Monday is anything like the last DLC was, we should find out what's in it over the next few days, probably from Twitter.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Stop trying to get our hope high for Snake. He... had a hard life..
Vampirolol
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"...a ONCE - IN - A - LIFETIME chance"
Beelzebufo
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Perhaps I should have said "regardless of" rather than "independently"
BassForever
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Aren't dk and bowser skylanders that can double as amiibo though? I think thats different enoungh compared to a straight amiibo.
If something big is coming on Monday, there should be an announcement about an announcement. And that would mean today, because it's Friday. They don't announce an announcement on the weekend, right?
When did they announce the Robin/Lucina reveal video? Was that on that Friday before?
When did they announce the Robin/Lucina reveal video? Was that on that Friday before?
balladofwindfishes
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Ryu and Roy were announced and released on a Sunday. They announce stuff on the weekend, especially because of PAX.
IIRC, they had already announced Lucas for that date. And they had already announced a Smash direct about all the new content. (It's just that Roy and Ryu leaked beforehand.)
And that was E3.
I'm talking about an announcement for the announcement, like the announcement for the Robin/Lucina trailer.
balladofwindfishes
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I don't think they're going to let the weekend stop them from announcing something, especially not with PAX going on.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
It's 9:10 PM in Japan right now so it's possible that it could be patch or balance patch only since we haven't hear anything from there yet. I know there is a chance that we could get announcement on Monday.
balladofwindfishes
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It seems unlikely it's just a random patch. It's during the "prime time" update window where (almost) every region is awake, and is exactly the same time the last DLC hit. Random patches without new content have traditionally hit during off hours (middle of the day in Japan, middle of the night for the US).
What's interesting to me, though, is this is the first Smash patch that has the two consoles at different times. The previous patches all had the announcement as the same time. The Wii U version is usually updated first, anyway, and then the 3DS later, so I guess they decided to just announce it like that, rather than having people hang around waiting for the 3DS to update while the Wii U was already done.
Sakurai has also mentioned he dislikes doing a lot of patches unless there's a good reason to do so, because not everyone has their consoles always hooked to the Internet, especially the 3DS. That's probably why between release and Mewtwo, we only got a handful of patches and they were separated by several months.
Regulus Tera
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are there any other streams during PAX where a character reveal could occur? I don't know if Nintendo or YCG have anything else prepared for the weekend.
balladofwindfishes
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It also doesn't necessarily need to be a character. It could easily just be more Mii Costumes and maybe a Brawl or another 64 retro stage. I doubt it would just be Mii costumes, however.
I think we have it all wrong. Tamaki insists there won't be TWO SK amiibos.....he insists this amiibo is pulling a Little Mac, and hiding the fact its from Smash.
Its base is VERY similar, even down to the color and everything to Smash Bros. Perhaps the final release will have the smash logo instead. Even the design of the box is pretty similar....where it has the character art in the top right and then fades to white.
Still hoping he isn't in Smash, but I do trust those who say he is.
Its base is VERY similar, even down to the color and everything to Smash Bros. Perhaps the final release will have the smash logo instead. Even the design of the box is pretty similar....where it has the character art in the top right and then fades to white.
Still hoping he isn't in Smash, but I do trust those who say he is.
balladofwindfishes
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This just seems flat out wrong.
There'd be no reason to make two different prototype Shovel Knight Amiibo figures (gold base and purple base), unless they knew the gold base was confusing compared to the Smash series. The Amiibo also doesn't follow the proportions of other Smash Amiibo.
Theres also a lot of bits that still don't add up here. Like how they've been working on the amiibo for over a year and the fact YCG is still campaigning hard for SK.
Whats also weird is that YCG flat up lied the other day about an amiibo coming. Usually its wise to keep quiet. So this basically means we can't take too much what they say on twitter regarding his inclusion serious.
Which is also to note, when asked about SK in Smash, they have been dodging the question and even started off last night asking if we heard any good rumors lately. I wonder if they implied the Smash rumor and not the amiibo rumor (which was essentially not even a rumor at that point).
Lastly, the Mods from SB and PushDustin from sourcegaming claim they are only 75% sure about Tamaki's source. They can't talk about much, but I wonder what is up about the source that theres a quarter of uncertainty around it.
Tertullian
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Wouldn't that just be an opaque box on an Amiibo base?
balladofwindfishes
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Probably because rumors, even sourced rumors, without picture or video evidence are not guaranteed to be accurate. Heck, even picture evidence isn't enough these days as fakes get better and better.
Edit: So THIS just popped up. The Amiibo originally had a Smash base
The ride never ends
Could also be a patch addressing issues with Tourney Mode and adding options to it (i.e 1v1 option...)
Beelzebufo
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Whaaat. That smash base is crazy. Maybe he'll be in smash without a smash series amiibo, as weird as that is?
BassForever
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Probably because rumors, even sourced rumors, without picture or video evidence are not guaranteed to be accurate. Heck, even picture evidence isn't enough these days as fakes get better and better.
Edit: So THIS just popped up. The Amiibo originally had a Smash base
The ride never ends
If YCG is fully making this that would make sense as all amiibo had a smash base for awhile until the other series were announced. Though who knows maybe that image more reflective of the final build then the prototype.
Aaronrules380
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Maybe if this were an earlier prototype, but as concept art, why wouldn't you just give it a blank base if you didn't know the design yet?
BassForever
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I agree, maybe it was wishful thinking concept art? Just playing devils advocate here as someone who wants SK
maybe they wanted to submit it this way to get nintendo thinking about putting him in smash
Aaronrules380
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Oh yeah, it's definitely not conclusive in any way. But it's definitely a really odd thing to put on concept art if this is all false.
Aaronrules380
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I doubt it, since the people they'd be submitting to have nothing to do with that decision. More likely if it's a coincidence, they just didn't realize that only smash amiibo have that base because they just didn't make the connection to the smash logo in their heads. Given that the vast majority of amiibo are in the smash series, I could see that being an easy mistake to make
balladofwindfishes
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That's not what the guy who leaked this said would happen, but it seems more plausible that, if SK is in Smash, that this would be the scenario, as the design of the Amiibo revealed seems close to final.
superNESjoe
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I think it's more likely that, in the case that Shovel Knight is in Smash, this is simply his amiibo. There isn't necessarily a rule that states all DLC needs to get a Smash themed amiibo, or an amiibo at all. I know the DLC so far are all getting amiibos, but there's still no real rule for that.
Boss Doggie
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Wait, so they're not sure if it will be out with a non-Smash base?
He didn't say it wouldn't happen either.
superNESjoe
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No that's just a prototype/concept sketch. The final base is purple. The Smash logo on the concept image is most likely a placeholder.
- Sakurai said every character that gets into Smash will get a Smash amiibo
- The Shovel Knight amiibo, which seems to have a pretty finalized design, is obviously not part of the Smash series
- To those saying the amiibo is being disguised and the character will be announced at PAX: why? Why do that when you could just announce both together at PAX and not go through the pointlessness of creating a fake amiibo?
That said, I think Shovel Knight may make it into Smash somehow. Maybe a Mii costume or trophy.
- The Shovel Knight amiibo, which seems to have a pretty finalized design, is obviously not part of the Smash series
- To those saying the amiibo is being disguised and the character will be announced at PAX: why? Why do that when you could just announce both together at PAX and not go through the pointlessness of creating a fake amiibo?
That said, I think Shovel Knight may make it into Smash somehow. Maybe a Mii costume or trophy.
balladofwindfishes
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Actually, yea, reading back, he said the design in the leak wasn't final. Not specifically that it would end up being a Smash Amiibo.
Which actually ended up being somewhat true. The final design has a purple base.
Beelzebufo
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The obvious thing here is that Shovel Knight will get a new amiibo way down the line. Maybe it's not fully planned out yet, but as you said all Smash characters need an amiibo.
balladofwindfishes
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I don't get why people think SK having two amiibo released far apart is some weird concept that will never happen.
If SK is released on Monday, let's say. His Smash Amiibo isn't coming out until at least Spring 2016, based on how long the other DLC is taking to get Amiibo. That's a long time for Yacht to need to wait to add the Amiibo features they want to add to their game.
We don't even have a date for Ryu, Lucas and Roy, but it'll be early/mid Winter 2016, and they came out months ago.