Street Fighter V Roster Discussion: P-P-P-P-PATTERN BREAKER
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sixteen-bit
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Nadeshiko probably
Karsticles
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Cammy looks like Sexy No Jitsu Naruto.
Anyway, I'm just talking about how the game is perceived. I like weirdos.
Too late.
Anyway, I'm just talking about how the game is perceived. I like weirdos.
These alts are just amazing and really mess with the 'iconic' aspect of the characters. They are disruptive in the best way, and should have really been the standard costumes for atleast these 4. I can't wait to see what the other character's alt outfits like Mika looks like after 15 years only seeing her in wrestling garb
notworksafe
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Oro is super cool.
Maybe I just come from a different place than most others, though. Aside for a brief period in my late teens I could never like the typical cool, smooth aloof characters like Sasuke from Naruto or "grrr imma angry masculine badass" characters like Kratos or Evil Ryu.
SF4 was meant to capture as wide an audience as possible by focusing on the most recognizable and popular characters. SF5 eschews all that and Ono has stated they are aiming to surprise.
For SF4 they actively avoided less popular characters because of the perceived negativity against the SF3 cast and guys like Birdie and Sodom. Anyone who has complained that the SF3 cast was too weird or out there or antithetical to SF or only clamored for fan favorite characters have kinda themselves to blame if their upset when SF5 inevitable includes all those obscure, less popular characters because all the popular and non-offensive characters were in SF4.
Zangief is intended to be "manly" as well as goofy. Hugo is just plain goofy. That's the difference. It's a matter of perception.
And Hugo has eyes. They're just covered by his massive eyebrows. As for his animations, if Gief was in 3 he probably would have had incredibly exaggerated movement.
Maybe I just come from a different place than most others, though. Aside for a brief period in my late teens I could never like the typical cool, smooth aloof characters like Sasuke from Naruto or "grrr imma angry masculine badass" characters like Kratos or Evil Ryu.
SF4 was meant to capture as wide an audience as possible by focusing on the most recognizable and popular characters. SF5 eschews all that and Ono has stated they are aiming to surprise.
For SF4 they actively avoided less popular characters because of the perceived negativity against the SF3 cast and guys like Birdie and Sodom. Anyone who has complained that the SF3 cast was too weird or out there or antithetical to SF or only clamored for fan favorite characters have kinda themselves to blame if their upset when SF5 inevitable includes all those obscure, less popular characters because all the popular and non-offensive characters were in SF4.
Zangief is intended to be "manly" as well as goofy. Hugo is just plain goofy. That's the difference. It's a matter of perception.
And Hugo has eyes. They're just covered by his massive eyebrows. As for his animations, if Gief was in 3 he probably would have had incredibly exaggerated movement.
I really hope they don't do that. It would take away from her character and would be cheesy. I do think if R. Mika has an alt Nadeshiko should have an alternate as well.
The SFIV strategy was very clear, but I'm not sure I see how IV is somehow supposed to satiate people looking for old-time favorites to the point that they would no longer mind if V were a surprising or limited cast. I get the personal feelings of "you had it your way before, now it's time for other people to have it the way they want it this time," but it's unlikely that Capcom would be thinking in these terms of "fairness" or whatever else. If anything, the former opinion is validated by IV's success and III's (beautiful) failure. Maybe it's possible to theorize that the general public's attention to fighting games was rekindled by IV and thus that V can afford to be more experimental, but if I were a Capcom exec, that's sure not the lesson I'd be taking, and I'd make well sure that most of the key cast showed up sooner rather than later.
PS: I do agree that Oro is super-cool.
Lights and Waves
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This game would have been a perfect chance for them to reboot Ryu, Cammy and Chun with these new outfits. Although I'd give Cammy the braids back and make sure that Chun's dress was blue.
Hugo was cooler when his eyes were either covered in shadows or bulging, pupiless orbs. I get that his actual art in III shows off his normal eyes but IV should have interpreted him as the rampaging, inhuman giant he is.
I also preferred Dudley with the shadowy eyes but that change wasn't as egregious.
I don't see where my posts imply the notion of "you got yours, now it's our turn". I don't really care about that. I would give up all my most wanted additions for more original characters. Heck I'd even trade Oro, Eagle and Q for someone like Santamu.
For 4s cast vs 5s, they know they have an audience, they know they can do pretty much whatever they like in terms of roster additions. They said as much when they addressed the case of how stuff like popularity polls fit with their roster plans.
Edit: The bolded is exactly the case, at least so far. Not only that, but in terms of their DLC plans they'll make way more money off of 4 veterans than, say, Birdie.
The SFxT ported character models were absolute poop. Only Poison looked ok, IMO. But neither 4s nor SFxTs art styles did the SF3 guys any favors.
MegamanXZero
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If you enjoyed it, then it's not a waste of your money!
It was KoF XII that started turning people back to the original designs in hopes of returning to a focus on the classic Fatal Fury vs. Art of Fighting dynamic...in spite of still being in the middle of a story arc that they had yet to finish, creating a game that failed to find an audience (though of course, XII was a garbage game anyway). Won't even get started on how lazy and boring going with Athena's original Psycho Soldier look was (and very poorly executed at that), and while I'd be lying if I said I cared about Kensou, his throwback makeover made him look far dorkier than he had before.
The Ash Saga really wound up being so pointless. Dropped plotlines everywhere (who Malin was even supposed to be, the attack on Takuma's dojo vaguely implied to have been Oswald's doing but then completely forgotten); complete elimination of all trace of prior Mark of the Wolves additions, not just the return to classic Terry that XII stuck them with; and finally, a conclusion that meant that no one would even remember anything that happened during that arc anyway after Ash erased his own existence by killing his ancestor to stop him, with Elisabeth more or less being the least effective counterpart to a KoF lead (few people even knew they were supposed to be, given the lack of promotional material playing it up beyond the explanation that the colors in the XIII logo were a reference to their respective powers and how little was done to make their designs/techniques complementary compared with Iori to Kyo and Kula to K'; even the former was able to help seal Orochi and the latter turned Zero's satellite on him and destroyed it before Southtown got wiped out completely, whereas Elisabeth wasn't granted even one moment to shine during the Ash story). So much wasted potential with that story.
Hm, the Chun and Cammy alts look nice, and Ryu with a beard is cool.
Ah, I think people are reading from the "don't really have a right to complain" phrasing that because complaints about III resulted in people "getting what they wanted" in IV in the form of a more traditional roster, the complainers should somehow be content with IV and put up with whatever appears in V. I get the feeling, and didn't really like IV's bloated and "safe" roster myself, but it seems unlikely that these people got their fill with IV, nor that Capcom would be keen on ever doing anything as risky as III again, even if the fighting game market has revived a bit. But the revival seems based on the traditional approach that made it more welcoming to people who knew II and were checked out in the 10-year span that included III. In other words, I don't see my dreams of an Oro vs. Q rematch happening anytime soon. D:
Instead, we got a fucking potato.
Hoya Destroyer
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Not really new character related, but here's our first look at the direction they're going to start with when it comes to costumes
http://gematsu.com/2015/08/street-fighter-v-collectors-edition-pre-order-bonuses-announced
Whoa! Nice. Pretty sure Cammy is still wearing her thong, so I love that outfit already. Googles and hair look slick as well.
Chuns outfit is sexy, but her hair doesnt look so good. Bracelets also should have matched the dress.
Ryu looks cool. Simple but badass (will also appeal to the gay demo, no doubt).
Bison I dont like. The skull shoulder pad and bolt buckle look a bit tacky.
I edited my previous post in an attempt to clarify.
Anyway. What clinched it for me was the addition of Vega, who was clearly added for his unique playstyle, and R. Mika, the latter of which basically confirms the Siliconera leaks. If they were really aiming for recognizable favorites we would have seen Balrog instead of Birdie, or they would have added Juri. It's clear to me they want 5, at least vanilla, to feel utterly unique. How the popular vs. non-popular characters discussion figures into that is they went all out for crowd-pleasing fan favorites in 4. To make 5 unique they have to look at "the rest". And in business terms, it is ideal to keep people playing both SF4 and SF5.
Maybe it's 2015 being such an interesting year that I feel more confident that SF5 really is aiming to bring back as many neglected characters as possible. I could be wrong in my interpretation of how things are going. But I don't think so. And I feel pretty confident that more crowd-pleasers will start showing up in DLC. If Akuma and Juri aren't among the the first "season" of DLC I'll be mighty surprised.
Jazzy Network
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Ugh please announce Urien. Every time Capcom doesn't announce him gets 1 step closer to him not being in it.
Except after the last announcement, it's actually more likely he's in.
Except Rmika is just canonically sexy no jutsu naruto stuck as sexy no jutsu naruto
What makes you say this besides getting my hopes up ;-;
SolidSnakex
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If Karin is announced at TGS, then you can rest easy knowing that Urien is in.
I seriously can't wait to see the USA tattoo flex. that better be the fucking opening shot on his character trailer.
direct_quote
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Could seem possible because she is the most popular in Japan... But I think people want to see that SF3 will be represented in some way...
SolidSnakex
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I was just saying that if Karin is announced at TGS, then that pretty much shows that Siliconera's rumors were true. They said Mika, Karin, Alex, and Urien were in. I'd expect Alex and Urien to be PSX/Capcom Cup reveals if those character rumors are accurate.
bishopcruz
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Yeah, having Karin in the game without Sakura is like having Ken in a game w/o Ryu. It would feel off. I also would KILL to see an aged up Sakura.
jackissocool
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Dhalsim
it really isnt tho
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KidA Seven
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It seems so far away. I hope Ono gives us some teases.
Serenade_King
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Great, now I'll be sad that she doesn't end up looking like that drawing once she gets revealed.Here's one fan's guess at what Karin will look like in Street Fighter V. A friend of mine ended up making some tiny edits to it, but here it is.
Here's one fan's guess at what Karin will look like in Street Fighter V. A friend of mine ended up making some tiny edits to it, but here it is.
I'd laugh so hard if Sakura straight up became a sailor in her redesign.
Mihos
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Hnnnnnggggggggggg
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SF is taking notes from DOA confirmed
Her eyes look intense... I like it
Here's one fan's guess at what Karin will look like in Street Fighter V. A friend of mine ended up making some tiny edits to it, but here it is.
It looks like Lili's...
Here's one fan's guess at what Karin will look like in Street Fighter V. A friend of mine ended up making some tiny edits to it, but here it is.
Really like it. I hope Capcom has something like this.
Here's one fan's guess at what Karin will look like in Street Fighter V. A friend of mine ended up making some tiny edits to it, but here it is.
Man that is nice. I definitely hope that we get something like that for Karin.
You know that this is Capcom that you are speaking of?
Sakura will still be dressed as Schoolgirl and Karin will still be dressed as Sailor girl.
Only people on roster that got changes that were significant in design were male. And that wasn't really much as Vega got alternate costume , Bisons outfit evolved into trenchcoat and Ken got new shirt with his Gi and now has different hair.
Sakura is most likely not in the base roster, so we won't have to worry about her until Capcom starts announcing the DLC characters.
I know that but I am doubting Karin or her friend will be free from their cosplay designs.That was pretty much why they were introduced in first place.
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