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Second date with girl I met on tinder yesterday (actually the first and only one I talked to), watched movies at her place like the first time but got closer this time, couldn't get myself to kiss her the first time, she seems a bit shy and so am I, also lacking some confidence, but yesterday we kissed for a good hour before I left, feel much more confident with her now
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Now on to third date next week.

Turns out the artist's a good movie for cuddles.
the blue balls though, damn. Hard time falling asleep afterwards

As Gok says, it's all about the confidence. Good to hear a nice story on here once in a while :)
 
Second date with girl I met on tinder yesterday (actually the first and only one I talked to), watched movies at her place like the first time but got closer this time, couldn't get myself to kiss her the first time, she seems a bit shy and so am I, also lacking some confidence, but yesterday we kissed for a good hour before I left, feel much more confident with her now
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Now on to third date next week.

Turns out the artist's a good movie for cuddles.
the blue balls though, damn. Hard time falling asleep afterwards

Don't be afraid to fap
 
Sounds like your friend giveth, and your friend taketh it all away again.

Just tell him he's a terrible wingman, he'll get the hint.

But yeah, it's day one. Plenty more people out there. Don't sweat it too much.

So did you tell it?

I don't see why this is necessarily a bad thing or at least not salvageable.

Also don't talk to girls when your friend is around. Is he the type to get pissed when others have sex and drunkenly yell at his boss at a work party
and still keep his job
?

Oh I told it, it was in a group setting with some of my friends and a bunch of new people. I hesitated at first but the girl was like, "if it's funny then go ahead." So I did.

Everyone had a laugh so all was good, also got to talk and laugh with her yesterday for a bit too. But damn, not the first icebreaker I'd go for.
 
Oh I told it, it was in a group setting with some of my friends and a bunch of new people. I hesitated at first but the girl was like, "if it's funny then go ahead." So I did.

Everyone had a laugh so all was good, also got to talk and laugh with her yesterday for a bit too. But damn, not the first icebreaker I'd go for.

I dunno. It's probably better than your average icebreaker. Sets you up as a funny guy that people want to tell stories about. Though I don't know the content of the story itself...
 

I adopt this way of thinking for most things in life. Everyone around me that has kids got laid at some point, most likely. Naturally I should be able to as well, I'm not THAT ugly. Everyone I see driving a car passed their driving exam. How difficult can it be? Every married person found the love of their life. There is probably someone for me too.
 
Okay, Spain is going well. In addition to cool girl 1, I've met cool girl 2. I know people on here say dating multiple people is fine at the early stage, but as someone who hasn't done it before, where is the line?
 
Christ, why are older women so much cooler than younger women? I'm kicking it off pretty well with this gal that is a few years older than me (3-5 years older - she has said that she is done with undergrad)

Many of my classes have people my age (18-20), but the women in there are so spotty when it comes to even socializing with me.

The only thing I can guess is that I look and act older than I am. (Currently 20.)

I've also distanced myself from the tiny gal that I mentioned a few pages ago. She's nice, but a bit too nice.
 
Well, after seeing a girl for 2 months and having things go great, I got the dreaded "I really need to talk to you" text shortly before we were suppose to go out for date night.

It turns out that the two weeks I was away on vacation and we didn't get to see each other gave her a lot of time to think. And I think the initial rush of meeting and getting involved with someone new died off and you start evaluating them as a long term suitable partner. And she didn't see that in me.

Our communications and vibe have been way off since I got back (3 weeks ago) and I'm pretty intuitive about these things so I was mentally preparing myself (aka driving myself crazy) so this relationship ending wasn't a huge surprise for me.

We were amicable and things ended on a smooth note. She's on her last year of nursing school and has work as well and I'm about to head back to school for a second bachelor's so perhaps the timing of it all didn't work out either.

All in all it's the easiest/best/non-devastating break up I've had. Heart still hurts though, haha.

Hello Tinder, my old friend. I just hope I don't come across her again on there >__>
 
Just for the sake of thinking all my hours giving advice haven't gone to waste, has there been anyone of note who actually listened to GAF advice? Please say yes.

Really late to this (just browsing the last few pages) but I've followed advice here whenever people offer it.

I have to admit that I get really simpy and emotional at my worst and know that it's wrong, so I don't even bother coming here because I know people will tell me to stop and I know they'll be right. I just got done with a really prolonged, emotionally draining situation like that.
 
As Gok says, it's all about the confidence. Good to hear a nice story on here once in a while :)
Yeah, I knew she was into me and she knew I was into her, but now that things are clear I'm much less stressed about meeting her
Don't be afraid to fap
Oh I'm not, just didn't think it was necessary, little did I know
A ton of people get laid, looks don't matter as long as you find someone who likes you, sounds like idealistic bullshit but there's tons of people out there so...
Christ, why are older women so much cooler than younger women? I'm kicking it off pretty well with this gal that is a few years older than me (3-5 years older - she has said that she is done with undergrad)

Many of my classes have people my age (18-20), but the women in there are so spotty when it comes to even socializing with me.

The only thing I can guess is that I look and act older than I am. (Currently 20.)

I've also distanced myself from the tiny gal that I mentioned a few pages ago. She's nice, but a bit too nice.
too nice ?
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older women are cooler because they're more mature. 18-20 is still pretty young when it comes to development
 
And a conclusion has finally occurred in 3 months of madness.

I agreed to go out with her last night, a but of a "let's see where we stand in a face to face setting"
I knew it was the end so I took her to this incredible Italian place, 7 course meal and a new wine brought with each to compliment it.

From the moment we saw each other a flame was lit. She stood close to me, held my hand, ran her foot up my calf...

We laughed, we ate...and we drank ALOT of wine.

She ended up giving me a hand job in the parking lot. Then later at another bar she asked me to come look at something in the car, which turned into code for "stick your hand in pants and also give me oral sex"

She talked about how she was gonna have to be honest with the her new love, how he would ask her what she wanted and she new it was me she wanted. She talked about the allure of him being how powerful he is but how she can manipulate him and that's intoxicating to her.

This morning I called her and said we should talk about last night...
She said she forgot everything she said and did after dinner. Blamed the wine and said she must have blacked out.
Made me promise to never tell a soul, especially the other guy of course. I agreed.
Said all the things she said we're lies and nonsense brought on by alcohol (bad mouthing him)

We agreed to part ways. She is adamant about being with him and would love for me to sit on the sidelines and watch her have a quick fling with him but she understands that's unreasonable.
We gave each other blessings to move on, agreed no contact, and said final goodbyes.

What a long crazy trip this relationship was...and to top it off even in the end she was a first class bullshit artist and trample me.
 
Why am I attracted to girls who string me along and treat me like crap?
This isn't sane, respect yourself
I knew it was the end so I took her to this incredible Italian place, 7 course meal and a new wine brought with each to compliment it.


She said she forgot everything she said and did after dinner. Blamed the wine and said she must have blacked out.
Lol whut
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bolded is bullshit btw but I guess you know it
At least it sounds like a real and clean conclusion... or is it
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Still would love to share info on who she was and who he is as a famous artist..you guys would love it.

She's dating a famous artist > Gives name of famous artist > Those that feel like being dicks (not even GAF members per se) can easily find out who she is and harass her

Don't be an ass and put that information on the internet, especially when you were talking about how she cheated on her "new love". We wouldn't even need Detective GAF to spill that secret real quick. And, to be mean and frank, I highly doubt anyone even cares who she's dating now.
 
She's dating a famous artist > Gives name of famous artist > Those that feel like being dicks (not even GAF members per se) can easily find out who she is and harass her

Don't be an ass and put that information on the internet, especially when you were talking about how she cheated on her "new love". We wouldn't even need Detective GAF to spill that secret real quick. And, to be mean and frank, I highly doubt anyone even cares who she's dating now.

I know. It's just insane how I got wrapped up in this and I'm just an average joe.
From the sex to the fights to the entrance of fame, money, etc..

If you told me ago that these last 3 months would happen I'd say you were nuts.

Fucking Match.com
 
The extent that I care - I'm damn curious how hot this girl that not only were you willing to put up with her shit for months, but men are falling over themselves to also put up with her shit. The relationship started with you being her secret from her ex, and is ending with her you being taunted by her new beau. I'd bet good money the cycle repeats itself, and her next ex and next new guy will antagonize each other too.
 
...Why would you treat a person to a 7-course Italian meal when that person hasn't been good to you?
 
The extent that I care - I'm damn curious how hot this girl that not only were you willing to put up with her shit for months, but men are falling over themselves to also put up with her shit. The relationship started with you being her secret from her ex, and is ending with her you being taunted by her new beau. I'd bet good money the cycle repeats itself, and her next ex and next new guy will antagonize each other too.

She's REALLY hot and she kind of drips sexuality that's kind of intoxicating. Not gonna lie, you'd prob think she was a the hottest porn star you've ever seen or something lol
And if she has you on her radar she knows the words and touches to make you dizzy.

She commands a room when she enters and you can hear a silence kind of hit when you enter with her.

I wiped a smudge off her cheek last night as we sat at a bar and a guy behind us yelled out "good move buddy"...people did crazy shit like that all the time. Men envy you, compliment you or are confused how you did it..women look at you like you must be a millionaire or have a 12 inch cock.
 
I need an advice.

Lately I was hanging out with one girl who I met at my university. Without any romantic stuff, just walking around and visiting interesting places and everything. There were around 6-7 meetings - maybe 3 or 4 with some other people and 3 "one-on-one". I was attracted to her and was thinking everything is slowly yet surely going towards the romantic territory.

So, yesterday I gave her a small present and said that it marks my step forward in terms of our relationship and I'm enjoying the time I spent with her. She looked quite glad yet surprised.

Then in the evening she texted that she is grateful but "she's not thinking in that direction" and prefer just to continue like we did prior to that.

I made her know that after what I have proposed (taking relationship to a more serious level) I'm not sure if I would like to accept that and pretend that nothing happened. Yes, she is cute and smart, but that will be just a classic "friend-zone" situation with asymmetric fellings and that's a no go for me.

As a result, no plans to spend more time with her anymore. And there were really cool plans, I feel kinda sad that all of it, including a possible relationship with a good girl, is now thrown under the bus.

That "I'm not ready yet / I need to understand or fix myself before any relationship / It's my problem, not your fault" stuff is getting old for me. I believe it less and less the more I hear it. Well, now I also want to fix something about me because I won't get anywhere if that will just keep repeating with each girl I like.

Maybe you can say something about it?

Quite likely I was too fast to propose a romantic relationship. When is the right time? What are the signs of the right time?

Thanks in advance guys.
 
...Why would you treat a person to a 7-course Italian meal when that person hasn't been good to you?
:lol She's a whore and a loser but I took her to a seven course meal and bought wine to make sure we never talk again. He still wants her is the only logical conclusion.
The extent that I care - I'm damn curious how hot this girl that not only were you willing to put up with her shit for months, but men are falling over themselves to also put up with her shit. The relationship started with you being her secret from her ex, and is ending with her you being taunted by her new beau. I'd bet good money the cycle repeats itself, and her next ex and next new guy will antagonize each other too.
Yeah, I'm curious to see this girls picture after all this. It shouldn't be posted at all but it's just interesting to see what he's losing his mind over.
 
She's REALLY hot and she kind of drips sexuality that's kind of intoxicating. Not gonna lie, you'd prob think she was a the hottest porn star you've ever seen or something lol
And if she has you on her radar she knows the words and touches to make you dizzy.

She commands a room when she enters and you can hear a silence kind of hit when you enter with her.

I wiped a smudge off her cheek last night as we sat at a bar and a guy behind us yelled out "good move buddy"...people did crazy shit like that all the time. Men envy you, compliment you or are confused how you did it..women look at you like you must be a millionaire or have a 12 inch cock.
Name one genuinely good quality she has aside from looks.
I need an advice.

Lately I was hanging out with one girl who I met at my university. Without any romantic stuff, just walking around and visiting interesting places and everything. There were around 6-7 meetings - maybe 3 or 4 with some other people and 3 "one-on-one". I was attracted to her and was thinking everything is slowly yet surely going towards the romantic territory.

So, yesterday I gave her a small present and said that it marks my step forward in terms of our relationship and I'm enjoying the time I spent with her. She looked quite glad yet surprised.

Then in the evening she texted that she is grateful but "she's not thinking in that direction" and prefer just to continue like we did prior to that.

I made her know that after what I have proposed (taking relationship to a more serious level) I'm not sure if I would like to accept that and pretend that nothing happened. Yes, she is cute and smart, but that will be just a classic "friend-zone" situation with asymmetric fellings and that's a no go for me.

As a result, no plans to spend more time with her anymore. And there were really cool plans, I feel kinda sad that all of it, including a possible relationship with a good girl, is now thrown under the bus.

That "I'm not ready yet / I need to understand or fix myself before any relationship / It's my problem, not your fault" stuff is getting old for me. I believe it less and less the more I hear it. Well, now I also want to fix something about me because I won't get anywhere if that will just keep repeating with each girl I like.

Maybe you can say something about it?

Quite likely I was too fast to propose a romantic relationship. When is the right time? What are the signs of the right time?

Thanks in advance guys.
You were too *slow*, if anything. Be direct and ask a girl you're interested in on a date (as in, use that word) very early on. Either you get rejected (and thus didn't waste all those encounters going nowhere) or you're in. If you have romantic intentions, be assertive and show it early on, don't do or say vague things like hanging out.

Also, a gift as a step forward for the relationship with someone who you're not dating is kind of weird. Be direct and simple (and do it sooner). Ask for a coffee date or something.
 
Man I've just had really bad luck with flakiness lately. In particular one person I was actually surprisingly very excited to meet on tinder just vanished one day after delaying a date we had planned. I think she met someone because I wracked my brain and really couldn't think of anything I could have done to make her change her mind like that.

Her profile about me just said "buy me sushi" which I thought was really funny - I told her about this really nice sushi place in town and agreed to go, and since it's right across the road from a lake/trail we were gonna take some photos (I'm a photographer and she's gorgeous so I was super excited for this haha) and walk and talk. Night before we were texting back and forth and she ends with "good night, see you tomorrow! :)" Next day she texts me like five hours before the scheduled time and says she got called into work, she's really sorry, she might have a day off the following weekend and "we can make something work". Later that evening I text her asking "how was work" and she never replied. Texted again a few days later asking if she was still interested and I didn't get a response there either. I know it's not my fault and it's just luck but man, that really bummed me out.

Other day I went to a big college party for the first time. I've partied plenty of times before (and really enjoy it, people have straight up told me that I'm the life of the party) but never a big thing with strangers. I felt extremely uncomfortable for the first hour or so because of my social anxiety (I'm a very open and friendly person once I've become at least slightly familiar with you but just approaching someone and saying hello, initiating the convo, is extremely difficult for me possibly because of childhood stuff idk) and I wasn't drunk enough for it to go away. They didn't have any liquor at the party either... just a single keg of Natural Light (barf) I had to wait 15 minutes in line to get a single cup of.

I did meet a cute girl, I spent a few hours talking with her and her sister. Then she had to go to the bathroom and asked if I could come with her (it was crowded in the house) - in the hall there was a line to the bathroom and in the middle this HUGE guy who had to be at least 300 lb (I'm like 150) was drunkenly stumbling around and yelling. Put his fists up at one point which really scared me. Everyone in the hall was super nervous trying to keep him cool so nobody got hurt, and she turned and hugged me really tight - I hugged back and turned us around so that I was between her and the dude just in case he got dangerous. I'm not gonna lie I was scared shitless but nothing happened. After a few moments passed I let go and tried to diffuse the situation with another dude by shouldering both his arms (other dude was on the opposite side) and walking him out. She said it was sweet of me to come with her.

From then we just hung out alone. Wish we had more to drink. Not for her really but just for me - social anxiety and some past experiences with girls just make me really self conscious and nervous. I'm trying to work on it. I know I'm a funny dude and I have a lot of friends who love spending time with me but I think just past bad experiences imprinted ya feel me? When I'm decently drunk all that goes away and I'm just naturally more charming I guess - I've honestly noticed I make friends with people I've never seen in my life SUPER easily and naturally when I've had enough to drink haha. Anyway tho they were all out of even the crappy beer so later that night they finally came back with another keg. She asks if I want to go get a drink and I hesitate. I'd have to wait a few minutes for just one cup when I would need like five to get where I wanted to be lol, and it tasted like garbage anyway. "Eehh, it's getting a bit late, maybe I should just st-" "nah we're drinking". She grabs my hand and walks me to the keg lol. As we're waiting in line we still held hands which was nice and just chatted. I talked about a Syrian dish I really liked and she said I should come cook it sometime. A bit after that one drink though one of her friends came by and said they were leaving. I was really bummed. I genuinely feel like if I'd had more than a few beers I could have worked up the courage to make a move faster but she left before I could really do anything. I texted her a bit that night, we exchanged IG/Snapchat usernames and such.

What sucks is I texted her like two days later asking if she wanted to get lunch and she just didn't reply. It's been a few days now. Oddly enough she added me back on Snapchat after I sent that? Idk. I guess I'll text her again when I get out of work today to ask if there's any parties going on this weekend and just drop it if she ignores again. I guess it's possible she just forgot to reply - I do that myself sometimes.

Anyway just thought I'd share a story since I really like reading the ones y'all post.
 
I need an advice.

Lately I was hanging out with one girl who I met at my university. Without any romantic stuff, just walking around and visiting interesting places and everything. There were around 6-7 meetings - maybe 3 or 4 with some other people and 3 "one-on-one". I was attracted to her and was thinking everything is slowly yet surely going towards the romantic territory.

So, yesterday I gave her a small present and said that it marks my step forward in terms of our relationship and I'm enjoying the time I spent with her. She looked quite glad yet surprised.

Then in the evening she texted that she is grateful but "she's not thinking in that direction" and prefer just to continue like we did prior to that.

I made her know that after what I have proposed (taking relationship to a more serious level) I'm not sure if I would like to accept that and pretend that nothing happened. Yes, she is cute and smart, but that will be just a classic "friend-zone" situation with asymmetric fellings and that's a no go for me.

As a result, no plans to spend more time with her anymore. And there were really cool plans, I feel kinda sad that all of it, including a possible relationship with a good girl, is now thrown under the bus.

That "I'm not ready yet / I need to understand or fix myself before any relationship / It's my problem, not your fault" stuff is getting old for me. I believe it less and less the more I hear it. Well, now I also want to fix something about me because I won't get anywhere if that will just keep repeating with each girl I like.

Maybe you can say something about it?

Quite likely I was too fast to propose a romantic relationship. When is the right time? What are the signs of the right time?

Thanks in advance guys.

Dont buy gifts for people you aren't dating. Only buy gifts for extensions of platonic feelings for friends.. The last gift I bought a girl was a movie gift certificate for her birthday, so her and her boyfriend could see something lol. It was not awkward nor misconstrued because it was obvious it was for friendship not romance. Dont try to buy feelings. Save your money.

Other tham that, just say what you mean early. 7 hangouts is too late for you to just declare your moving forward.

Finally you did well to tell her you dont wanna just be friends and you are not interested in continuing as before. You do not.need to setle for friendship if you want romance. It doesnt make you a bad guy to do that
 
I need an advice.

Lately I was hanging out with one girl who I met at my university. Without any romantic stuff, just walking around and visiting interesting places and everything. There were around 6-7 meetings - maybe 3 or 4 with some other people and 3 "one-on-one". I was attracted to her and was thinking everything is slowly yet surely going towards the romantic territory.

So, yesterday I gave her a small present and said that it marks my step forward in terms of our relationship and I'm enjoying the time I spent with her. She looked quite glad yet surprised.

Then in the evening she texted that she is grateful but "she's not thinking in that direction" and prefer just to continue like we did prior to that.

I made her know that after what I have proposed (taking relationship to a more serious level) I'm not sure if I would like to accept that and pretend that nothing happened. Yes, she is cute and smart, but that will be just a classic "friend-zone" situation with asymmetric fellings and that's a no go for me.

As a result, no plans to spend more time with her anymore. And there were really cool plans, I feel kinda sad that all of it, including a possible relationship with a good girl, is now thrown under the bus.

That "I'm not ready yet / I need to understand or fix myself before any relationship / It's my problem, not your fault" stuff is getting old for me. I believe it less and less the more I hear it. Well, now I also want to fix something about me because I won't get anywhere if that will just keep repeating with each girl I like.

Maybe you can say something about it?

Quite likely I was too fast to propose a romantic relationship. When is the right time? What are the signs of the right time?

Thanks in advance guys.

A gift doesn't mark a next step to a relationship. Its just weird. Make a move instead.
 
Man I've just had really bad luck with flakiness lately. In particular one person I was actually surprisingly very excited to meet on tinder just vanished one day after delaying a date we had planned. I think she met someone because I wracked my brain and really couldn't think of anything I could have done to make her change her mind like that.

Her profile about me just said "buy me sushi" which I thought was really funny - I told her about this really nice sushi place in town and agreed to go, and since it's right across the road from a lake/trail we were gonna take some photos (I'm a photographer and she's gorgeous so I was super excited for this haha) and walk and talk. Night before we were texting back and forth and she ends with "good night, see you tomorrow! :)" Next day she texts me like five hours before the scheduled time and says she got called into work, she's really sorry, she might have a day off the following weekend and "we can make something work". Later that evening I text her asking "how was work" and she never replied. Texted again a few days later asking if she was still interested and I didn't get a response there either. I know it's not my fault and it's just luck but man, that really bummed me out.

Other day I went to a big college party for the first time. I've partied plenty of times before (and really enjoy it, people have straight up told me that I'm the life of the party) but never a big thing with strangers. I felt extremely uncomfortable for the first hour or so because of my social anxiety (I'm a very open and friendly person once I've become at least slightly familiar with you but just approaching someone and saying hello, initiating the convo, is extremely difficult for me possibly because of childhood stuff idk) and I wasn't drunk enough for it to go away. They didn't have any liquor at the party either... just a single keg of Natural Light (barf) I had to wait 15 minutes in line to get a single cup of.

I did meet a cute girl, I spent a few hours talking with her and her sister. Then she had to go to the bathroom and asked if I could come with her (it was crowded in the house) - in the hall there was a line to the bathroom and in the middle this HUGE guy who had to be at least 300 lb (I'm like 150) was drunkenly stumbling around and yelling. Put his fists up at one point which really scared me. Everyone in the hall was super nervous trying to keep him cool so nobody got hurt, and she turned and hugged me really tight - I hugged back and turned us around so that I was between her and the dude just in case he got dangerous. I'm not gonna lie I was scared shitless but nothing happened. After a few moments passed I let go and tried to diffuse the situation with another dude by shouldering both his arms (other dude was on the opposite side) and walking him out. She said it was sweet of me to come with her.

From then we just hung out alone. Wish we had more to drink. Not for her really but just for me - social anxiety and some past experiences with girls just make me really self conscious and nervous. I'm trying to work on it. I know I'm a funny dude and I have a lot of friends who love spending time with me but I think just past bad experiences imprinted ya feel me? When I'm decently drunk all that goes away and I'm just naturally more charming I guess - I've honestly noticed I make friends with people I've never seen in my life SUPER easily and naturally when I've had enough to drink haha. Anyway tho they were all out of even the crappy beer so later that night they finally came back with another keg. She asks if I want to go get a drink and I hesitate. I'd have to wait a few minutes for just one cup when I would need like five to get where I wanted to be lol, and it tasted like garbage anyway. "Eehh, it's getting a bit late, maybe I should just st-" "nah we're drinking". She grabs my hand and walks me to the keg lol. As we're waiting in line we still held hands which was nice and just chatted. I talked about a Syrian dish I really liked and she said I should come cook it sometime. A bit after that one drink though one of her friends came by and said they were leaving. I was really bummed. I genuinely feel like if I'd had more than a few beers I could have worked up the courage to make a move faster but she left before I could really do anything. I texted her a bit that night, we exchanged IG/Snapchat usernames and such.

What sucks is I texted her like two days later asking if she wanted to get lunch and she just didn't reply. It's been a few days now. Oddly enough she added me back on Snapchat after I sent that? Idk. I guess I'll text her again when I get out of work today to ask if there's any parties going on this weekend and just drop it if she ignores again. I guess it's possible she just forgot to reply - I do that myself sometimes.

Anyway just thought I'd share a story since I really like reading the ones y'all post.

That's a nice story. I'd be pretty bummed out if she never replies after that. Some girl recently flaked on me too. I met her online and she gave me her number so we started texting a bit. She was really cute. I told her I was thinking of getting a tattoo, showed her the one I wanted and she loved it. She showed me a picture of one her sister had. She said her brother did it for her and that she could hook me up. I thought "sweet, I get to meet this cute girl and I get a cool tattoo at a discount." I asked her when she was free and she said we should chill on Sunday. This was last Friday. I texted her the day of and the day after but she never replied. She initiated too so that was frustrating.
 
Oh hey she replied - neato. Said she didn't know of anything going on other than typical football game stuff with a sad face. I'll see if I can get something going with some friends this weekend and invite her in that case.

That's a nice story. I'd be pretty bummed out if she never replies after that. Some girl recently flaked on me too. I met her online and she gave me her number so we started texting a bit. She was really cute. I told her I was thinking of getting a tattoo, showed her the one I wanted and she loved it. She showed me a picture of one her sister had. She said her brother did it for her and that she could hook me up. I thought "sweet, I get to meet this cute girl and I get a cool tattoo for a discount." I asked her when she was free and she said we should chill on Sunday. This was last Friday. I texted her the day of and the day after but she never replied. She initiated too so that was frustrating.

Damn man :\ Yeah I feel you way too much on this lol
 
I need an advice.
Keep this in mind for next time, because its already over with this current girl. When you like a girl physically and romantically, just ask her out on a date. Keep it nice and simple. No gifts!! The correct way to always ask a girl out is to just... ask her out! Some guys will invest a lot of needless time into making the first moment something grande, when in reality it should be very simple.

Keep it basic, man.
 
She initiated too so that was frustrating.

This happened to me earlier this year I'm still here thinking where I went wrong. Girl made the first step, offered to hang out and then I when I ask her out all of a sudden things in her personal life changed and she really "cant go out". Like WTF?
 
Yeah, I'm curious to see this girls picture after all this. It shouldn't be posted at all but it's just interesting to see what he's losing his mind over.

Found her Instagram. One of these days I should give GAF a lecture on "personally identifiable information". Not going to post it, so don't ask.

Everyone has their tastes. She is not in line with mine. That's all I'll say about that.
 
Found her Instagram. One of these days I should give GAF a lecture on "personally identifiable information". Not going to post it, so don't ask.

Everyone has their tastes. She is not in line with mine. That's all I'll say about that.

Well, lemme ask, is she the typical bombshell type that would typically be supermodels? That's the type of woman I envisioned he was talking about. I find that type very bleh, but apparently lots of guys like it, so *shrug*
 
Well, lemme ask, is she the typical bombshell type that would typically be supermodels? That's the type of woman I envisioned he was talking about. I find that type very bleh, but apparently lots of guys like it, so *shrug*

She looks very processed. Boobs that came from a doctor, blonde hair that came from a bottle, flawless skin that came from too much makeup, and bright red/pink lipstick lips.
 
She looks very processed. Boobs that came from a doctor, blonde hair that came from a bottle, flawless skin that came from too much makeup, and bright red/pink lipstick lips.
Yeah, that just makes me uncomfortable. When I meet those types, I usually find myself looking for some type of imperfection.
 
Dating-Age, I need your help. I am now a 23 year old (thankfully non kissless) virgin, and have only a year left of university. Probably because I have social anxiety and was diagnosed with Aspergers (now 'autism spectrum disorder' I guess) when I was 8 and had extensive interventions for it, which helped a lot, nobody really notices it anymore but I was relentlessly bullied for being weird when I was a kid. Honestly my sense of style is also shit too, so hoping to change that. My face isn't that attractive either, I'm most definitely not a handsome guy and has been described as plain, or average. I feel my early childhood experiences have scarred me to this day. Adding to the cocktail of negative traits is recurrent episodes of depression (suffering through one right now).

Working on improving this by lifting, dressing a lot better, finding a new, more stylish haircut, being more social and doing less nerdy hobbies. The problem is that I don't feel interesting enough.I feel I haven't watched even a fraction of the movies others have and know barely any actors, for example. I feel like such a dull bore. On the more positive side people do say I'm likeable, especially in the clubs I've joined in uni. I have endearing nicknames and all that. I have been to clubs and bars quite a few times (a couple of girls have kissed me and several have grabbed my ass when I wasn't looking, so I must be kinda cute to some, but other than that, nothing). Terrible places for actually talking though. Don't have any close friends either, all my relationships are really superficial too :/ I can hit people up for drinks and shit and they'll gladly hang out, but anything closer than that doesn't really exist right now, taking initiative like this is the only reason I managed to party at all in university (thanks social anxiety :/)

I definitely have to find closer relationships, I'm making some progress on that front but more needs to be done, honestly. Reading all that foreveralone shit like "some people will never find a relationship or have sex and will die virgins unless they paid for sex" some people spout on Reddit like on the /r/foreveralone sub doesn't help my low mood either. There are even dudes there who are 34 year old kissless virgins who have given up on dating entirely and are entirely cynical about dating in general. I fear that this will turn out to be me some day, and that is most certainly not the kind of life I would be satisfied with leading.
 
Asked a girl out today at work, she has a boyfriend

Ah well. I'm not really at a place in my life right now where I WANT to be dating, I don't think, but damn if I just didn't feel the need to ask, because I didn't want to miss an opportunity
 
She looks very processed. Boobs that came from a doctor, blonde hair that came from a bottle, flawless skin that came from too much makeup, and bright red/pink lipstick lips.

Yes your right. Please don't devulge any info you may have gathered.
I'd like to walk away from this clean. Even tho she ran me through the mud the whole time I think it best we parted with no anger.

I blocked every method she could use to contact me, deleted every photo or text we've ever exchanged and basically erased her from my life.
Far better this way.
 

1. Don't worry about being interesting. Do things for yourself. If you're happy, people will see that and want to hang out with you. If you're always negative, people will avoid you. Don't compare yourself to others: there will always be someone "better" and "worse" than you.
2. It seems like you hang out in superficial gatherings. Don't go to clubs and bars where people are rarely sober. Host a board games night. Join a sports team. Organize a study group. Making friends doesn't get any easier once you graduate.
3. Get off that Forever Alone stuff. It sounds like a venue for sob stories and attention.
4. I'm no mental health expert, but work on getting better.
5. Dating isn't a race. Focus on stuff you can control (school, health) first.
 
In order to be interesting, be interested. Being a good listener is valuable since most people like to talk about themselves. They will call you a good conversationalist even they did most of the talking.
 
Quick question.

When you ask a girl for her number and she hesitates, but gives it to you anyway. Red flag or not?

I say it's a red flag for me, what about you guys? How would you perceive that?
 
Quick question.

When you ask a girl for her number and she hesitates, but gives it to you anyway. Red flag or not?

I say it's a red flag for me, what about you guys? How would you perceive that?

~Context is key~

Honestly, speaking personally (as a guy in a totally unrelated scenario) sometimes people ask me super simple questions, and I hesitate on answering for whatever reason. A friend can ask me something totally innocuous and I'd still pause sometimes, even though the answer is clear

So in this case, how was your read on every other part of the interaction?
 
~Context is key~

Honestly, speaking personally (as a guy in a totally unrelated scenario) sometimes people ask me super simple questions, and I hesitate on answering for whatever reason. A friend can ask me something totally innocuous and I'd still pause sometimes, even though the answer is clear

So in this case, how was your read on every other part of the interaction?

It felt like we knew each other well, conversation flowed naturally (that seems to be a common factor in a lot of girls that interest me) but once I try to break the "guy I know/friend" barrier it goes down south for me.
 
It felt like we knew each other well, conversation flowed naturally (that seems to be a common factor in a lot of girls that interest me) but once I try to break the "guy I know/friend" barrier it goes down south for me.

Well listen, if it turns out she's not really interested and just gave you her number to avoid rejecting you, you'll pick up on that pretty soon once you text/call her. You have the number, it doesn't sound like you had to force it out of her, so use it. Don't focus on the slight hesitation, focus on what you're going to do next
 
Quick question.

When you ask a girl for her number and she hesitates, but gives it to you anyway. Red flag or not?

I say it's a red flag for me, what about you guys? How would you perceive that?


Perhaps she was just surprised? If it was a moment to think about it, she must have liked something about you to decide to give it up. I wouldn't look too much into it though. You have it now, so why not shoot her a text and see where it goes? If she doesn't respond you have your answer.
 
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