Death Metalist
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A better one would be where you take a picture and the mirror's reflection of the DD emblem before he punches the window and then when he does, it shows the Outer Heaven emblem in the reflection.
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A better one would be where you take a picture and the mirror's reflection of the DD emblem before he punches the window and then when he does, it shows the Outer Heaven emblem in the reflection.
buddha0991
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Time skip confirmed
This I from my recording btw.
The thing that turns on next to the tape player when he puts that tape in? an MSX.
Not playing as the real BB was the first thing people said when the trailers started coming and the release of Ground Zeroes. It was the most obvious twist and its a shame that Kojima used it instead of following through and turning BB into a war criminal/tragic character with an incredible character study this game should have been. As The Boss said, todays good can be tomorrows evil, its a shame Koj decided that BB is too awesome to be an antagonist the franchise has always maintained. Fuck lore i guess.
How doesn't it?
Operation Intrude N313 was 1995.
Operation Intrude N313 took place in 1995 precisely 1 day after N312 which also took place in 1995.
Operation Intrude didn't exist in 1984.
Operation Intrude was the infiltration of OH to rescue Fox and take out BB, this happened in
yep, you guessed it. 1995.
Big Boss says in the truth tapes that he wants nothing to do with David and Eli, therefore we can assume that he didn't plan Operation Intrude N313 in 1984 before he even knew Fox or David(Solid).
So, time skip confirmed.
buddha0991
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Basileus777
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So when exactly in the timeline does Ocelot recover his memories about the phantom? When does he reveal it to Miller? Are these things supposed to take place after the end of the game? I'm also not exactly clear when Venom listens to that tape and learns the truth himself.
Ocelot hypnotizes himself to forget. When is it ever spelled out when he recovers those memories? Is he acting throughout the game or does he not remember yet?
That Metal Gear fight was probably the best one in the series. Huey was so annoying tho. Thank god they got rid of him.
The existance of Battle Gear was weird. They announce him, they present him, and in the end you can just use him as an object in those external operations.
And I cant get over the fact that they cut mission 51.
What the went wrong there?
The existance of Battle Gear was weird. They announce him, they present him, and in the end you can just use him as an object in those external operations.
And I cant get over the fact that they cut mission 51.
What the went wrong there?
Earlier today I triggered the scene from the trailers in which staff are fighting and Boss stabs himself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CDFE-St68U
I uploaded it since I know not many people are dumb enough to let Mother Base get into the red like I did. Funnily enough it's quite dialogue-heavy from Kiefer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CDFE-St68U
I uploaded it since I know not many people are dumb enough to let Mother Base get into the red like I did. Funnily enough it's quite dialogue-heavy from Kiefer.
Meh, everyone guessed it a year ago and the game makes it so obvious with hints that M. Night himself would struggle to call it a twist.
Strangelove77
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So does anyone give a shit about powering up the parasite suit?
I'm guessing I just have to redo missions with skulls in them and farm them?
I'm guessing I just have to redo missions with skulls in them and farm them?
robotoboy20
Banned
The Motorbike scene has changed, I'm not talking about the horn.
The chair scene is contextual then? I CQC'd his ass and didn't get it
Whereabouts? Because the burning village, Kaz said its already been burnt down. But I'm thinking a the screaming at the sky scene is in if you are an evil player and have a large horn.
The child soldiers in the cage? They're the ones being trained? They are locked away lmao.
The soldier fight scene is definitely in, I've seen it. It's triggered by having GMP in the red.
In the episode where you blow up the oil refinery, you pass through a village... There are child soldiers IN this village being trained. They get marched into a house to sleep if you wait... but they aren't in a cage in this scene.
Akiyama_AE
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Guys why is blood not washing off My character used the shower a bunch of times..., Also how to use the parasite suit
Akiyama_AE
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yep so obvious since the chopper scene and the real boss gets fire in his face
MDSVeritas
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Do you have a really significant shrapnel horn? I recall hearing that in the higher levels of the "demon" rank along with the horn you get blood that won't wash off.
Absolutely beautiful. Big Boss's character (the real one...) needed a lot of these moments, just to play Mission 43 later.
We don't draw weapons on comrades. This is your family.
This is my Big Boss. This is the man who told Gene to fuck off with his methods. I think the narrative doesn't help the game, there's a good amount of clips that in my opinion should be mandatory to watch / play and not optional because they add something to the character and eventually, when the twist happens, player will feel differently, closer to Snake.
Also, one thing I appreciate and I never said, is that the choreography of the fighting are quite good. It's not very common to find good hand to hand fights in gaming.
Akiyama_AE
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Yeah its pretty big lol , what the hell is a demon rank..
Death Metalist
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My guess is your demon points are too high. You've been killing people the entire game, huh? or did you develop a nuke? As for your second question, I don't know. I was able to use it as soon as I developed it.
Ocelot always knew but hid it, Miller didn't until the end when Ocelot confessed and same with VS, I assume he received a tape when the real BB was in a good place to reveal that VS isn't the real BB.
OH MAH GAHD
That sexual tension between Ocelot and Big Boss was good too. "Ugh, gentle", "Of course".
Doctor_Thomas
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You enjoy all the killing, don't you?
It's not consistent but I've been able to bop her on the head by timing it so that she is literally pulling the trigger just before the supply drop lands.
Razgriz-Specter
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Wow some amazing stuff locked behind tapes, damn.
Robdraggoo
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My god 29 was a mess for me. I nwver took the time to develop heavy weopons since i primarily played stealth. And at that point a third of my staff was quarantine so devoloping at that point was pretty much done. Had to get creative but i got it done.
Akiyama_AE
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Yeah I can wear the suit but don't know how to trigger its abilities
MGS4 huh
Basileus777
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Ocelot says on the tapes that he's going to self hypnotize his memories away and will regain them later. So he didn't know for a period of time, but I don't know when he is supposed to have remembered.
After developing the parasite suit you need to go back and extract the parasite soldier abilities you want to use (camouflage/armor). Then you develop each parasite ability, and finally you equip the parasite suit as well as the appropriate parasite cartridge as an item to use.
Note that you don't need to tranquilize the parasite soldiers to extract them. Depleting red health will still leave them knocked out for a while; just run up and fulton.
I think they were mentioned under playtesters.
So I think I've seen all the story in this game now. I can't say it stands up to the other Metal Gears but I think it had some moments. Killing your men in episode 43 was really well done I thought. I understand why people are upset about Quiet being unavailable after her story but am I the only one who thinks it's actually the most powerful story element in the game? If you used her a lot it creates a great sense of loss, which you're constantly reminded of when you go out for missions or you see her empty cell and stuff. I think it was actually the only time in MGSV where Kojima prioritized narrative over gameplay
Akiyama_AE
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so its either the sniper girls or the armored dudes ok got it!
mgs2master2
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Time skip confirmed
This I from my recording btw.
how does this confirm a time skip, for all we know that could be the same tape from ground zeroes that made the same noise, despite having that label
Doctor_Thomas
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Sony presents "Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain" - A Hideo Kojima Game - in association with JF Rey
The MSX2, maybe? That game out 1985, the year after MGSV takes places, so that could be sort of a time skip.
Krappadizzle
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This is what bugs me the most I think. There is no good way to listen to the tapes without stopping the game. If you listen on the way to a mission you'll limit what you can hear in-game and if you listen outside of a mission(at ACC for example) you just get to stare at Boss. It sucks, and I don't want to listen to them as a result. It's a poor way to tell a story. A really terrible way in fact.
BossDarkseid
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I'll probably ask in the OT as well but I want to listen to the tapes on the go etc on tablet/phone via the app but....has anyone else had a problem that when you log in with your PSN account it just says NO PS4 FOUND etc?
MDSVeritas
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Still can't get over how good Episode 43 was. One of the best levels in a game of all time.
I actually quite like the twist, but the sheer fact that it lessens the lasting emotional value of Episode 43 makes me like it less. What an amazingly haunting segment.
Those saluting soldiers...
I actually quite like the twist, but the sheer fact that it lessens the lasting emotional value of Episode 43 makes me like it less. What an amazingly haunting segment.
Those saluting soldiers...
Ether_Snake
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I think the IGNSOC website is no fake. It connects too well with MGSV in ways that would not have been predictable, and this whole connection starts at the very beginning of Chapter 2.
edit: BTW the site no longer mentions any console platforms.
https://youtu.be/cwowXkysk2o?t=11284
The first thing that happens at the start of Chapter 2: Kaz tells everyone that even with SF dead they have not exercised their revenge, because Cipher is still out there. He follows this with "we know they've planted spies among us".
THAT is a reference of Nineteen Eighty Four.
He blames an imaginary enemy that can never actually be defeated and which is faceless, "we know they've planted spies, parasites, among us", and that everyone has to watch over everyone, basically mistrust one another, and to "Report everything. It's the only way to protect ourselves.".
"From here on out" (look at how BB and Ocelot look at him when he says that) "you will be my eyes. The deadliest enemy is right here in our midst."
Kaz speaks like a "Big Brother" propagandist in 1984.
Not only are his eyes weird, they kind of look like Code Talker's. When BB asked him if anything was done to his eyes, Kaz says "no it's just bright...". Really? Plus, when CT is possessed by the parasites speaking to him, he recites what you would expect a spy to say; "secret meetings between containers, Ocelot's aim is off today", etc., and then says "eyes on Kaz, a message from the parasites". If the parasites are speaking these things to CT (he says it's a message from the parasites), it means they can "see" and hear things; they are reporting to CT about what they have seen. The parasites can be used as a communication/intel gathering device, and they have been around for a long time, decades, centuries, recording everything? Logically, Cipher/AI would eventually be able to store all that info. Nice little way of justifying that the AIs would know everything (except supposedly Ocelot hypnotizing himself lol).
That website had morse code which revealed the sentence ""IS THERE SUCH A THING AS AN ABSOLUTE, TIMELESS ENEMY?"". That's a quote form The Boss, but it ties in perfectly to the idea of IGNSOC and what Kaz says above with his obsession about an enemy that in a way can't really ever be defeated, that is faceless, that might not even exist.
Huey's first interrogation foreshadows that Kaz is the "real" spy, just look at how the scene is directed when Huey says "what about him?".
Some reading for fun, because it really sounds like there might be more 1984-related stuff in MG's future:
Will we eventually find out in a future MG title that, in fact, Big Boss never actually existed?
edit: BTW the site no longer mentions any console platforms.
https://youtu.be/cwowXkysk2o?t=11284
The first thing that happens at the start of Chapter 2: Kaz tells everyone that even with SF dead they have not exercised their revenge, because Cipher is still out there. He follows this with "we know they've planted spies among us".
THAT is a reference of Nineteen Eighty Four.
He blames an imaginary enemy that can never actually be defeated and which is faceless, "we know they've planted spies, parasites, among us", and that everyone has to watch over everyone, basically mistrust one another, and to "Report everything. It's the only way to protect ourselves.".
"From here on out" (look at how BB and Ocelot look at him when he says that) "you will be my eyes. The deadliest enemy is right here in our midst."
Kaz speaks like a "Big Brother" propagandist in 1984.
Not only are his eyes weird, they kind of look like Code Talker's. When BB asked him if anything was done to his eyes, Kaz says "no it's just bright...". Really? Plus, when CT is possessed by the parasites speaking to him, he recites what you would expect a spy to say; "secret meetings between containers, Ocelot's aim is off today", etc., and then says "eyes on Kaz, a message from the parasites". If the parasites are speaking these things to CT (he says it's a message from the parasites), it means they can "see" and hear things; they are reporting to CT about what they have seen. The parasites can be used as a communication/intel gathering device, and they have been around for a long time, decades, centuries, recording everything? Logically, Cipher/AI would eventually be able to store all that info. Nice little way of justifying that the AIs would know everything (except supposedly Ocelot hypnotizing himself lol).
That website had morse code which revealed the sentence ""IS THERE SUCH A THING AS AN ABSOLUTE, TIMELESS ENEMY?"". That's a quote form The Boss, but it ties in perfectly to the idea of IGNSOC and what Kaz says above with his obsession about an enemy that in a way can't really ever be defeated, that is faceless, that might not even exist.
Huey's first interrogation foreshadows that Kaz is the "real" spy, just look at how the scene is directed when Huey says "what about him?".
Some reading for fun, because it really sounds like there might be more 1984-related stuff in MG's future:
Will we eventually find out in a future MG title that, in fact, Big Boss never actually existed?
After you complete mission 43.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Youre going really deep, Ether. The Big Brother stuff is plausible though, seeing as how theres references out of the wazoo for it. And the line of "Eyes on Kaz" is probably a literal line.
As for if Big Boss ever existed... I think thats referring to his legend. The legend of the Boss which folded into Big Boss after the events of MG2, that only a few remembered. Thr Patriots themselves went from preserving the image if Boss to creating an icon through LET of Big Boss. This legend that enamates everything, Big Boss, Big Boss, Big Boss. The Big Boss from the legends doesnt exist. Its an amalgamation of deeds and actions. The real Big Boss went from a manipulated soldier tk a warmonger.
As for if Big Boss ever existed... I think thats referring to his legend. The legend of the Boss which folded into Big Boss after the events of MG2, that only a few remembered. Thr Patriots themselves went from preserving the image if Boss to creating an icon through LET of Big Boss. This legend that enamates everything, Big Boss, Big Boss, Big Boss. The Big Boss from the legends doesnt exist. Its an amalgamation of deeds and actions. The real Big Boss went from a manipulated soldier tk a warmonger.
Just to confirm: 'Truth: The Man Who Sold The World' is the last story episode?
I'll have to read this thread a bit because there are some things of the game that confused me, mainly what was the significance of Venom getting the tape of Operation Intrude? Venom only learnt the truth at the events of MG1?
I'll have to read this thread a bit because there are some things of the game that confused me, mainly what was the significance of Venom getting the tape of Operation Intrude? Venom only learnt the truth at the events of MG1?
schlongdog
Banned
Ether, it said "Nintendo Dreamcast"
Whatever it is, It's fake.
Whatever it is, It's fake.
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I know it said Nintendo Dreamcast. Why in the world would someone making a fake that is trying to pass off as something real say "Nintendo Dreamcast"? It also used to say A ##### ###### Game and doesn't anymore. Also things have changed in the past few hours. Just stumbled on the email request myself when looking at the source code.
https://www.reddit.com/r/silenthill/comments/3jtud2/black_hound_the_chosen/
So far this site has had lines connected to The Boss, Kojima, and PT.
schlongdog
Banned
Don't do this to yourself
Ether_Snake
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This isn't 2004. You still using Netscape or something?
K and H look different than the other letters in the logo too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_dog_(ghost)
schlongdog
Banned
It's way more likely to be Frog Fractions 2 than MGS related
So I've figured out i'm a doppleganger, got quiet to kill herself, Huey is floating in the drink and liquid has my Gundam. Is that it as far as story goes? I've seen main credits roll 3 times now.
I don't believe I ever saw the cutscene with the MB soliders fighting when VS comes up and makes one of the soldiers stab him. I also never saw Eli's boss battle. I just knocked him out when he stood on the ledge of his boat. Bah. Also, why did they say he had no relation to VS in the end? I figure it was a massive hint that VS what not BB but eh I could be wrong.
I don't believe I ever saw the cutscene with the MB soliders fighting when VS comes up and makes one of the soldiers stab him. I also never saw Eli's boss battle. I just knocked him out when he stood on the ledge of his boat. Bah. Also, why did they say he had no relation to VS in the end? I figure it was a massive hint that VS what not BB but eh I could be wrong.
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