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[BrokenIcarus]

Once you have up beat JPop while taking on a Metal Gear, anything goes.

Urgh that was so so so bad imo. Just removed all the tension.

Compare that to how masterfully love theme and old snake theme are used in mgs4 or snake eater and metal gear theme in mgs3. It's a whole nother dimension.

 

[Yabberwocky]

Remember the Alamo

Bless whoever made the 'remember the ayylmao' joke earlier in the thread, it's a day later and I'm still laughing over it.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Oh most definitely, no question about that. Horribly utilized though. I have no clue how that happened.

The entire section actually has great music.
OKB zero theme > sins of the father > sahelanthropus

That makes sense. He knew from the beginning but decided to play along because he saw an opportunity to build up DD and get revenge.

He didn't know from the beginning, only ocelot knew.
The lines at the end refer to him being done with BB's bullshit and he's off to find Eli and David, train them and have them take down BB.

 

[Robot Pants]

At what point did Miller find out that Venom wasn't Big Boss?

I assumed it was a while but then surely he knew that it was the medic and not Big Boss who suffered the shrapnel and a missing arm?

He always knew. He was in on the plan from the beginning

 

[Tecl0n]

I thought she did? Wasn't the Paz shit just a hallucination?

Thank fuck it was.

 

[Alienous]

There is a scene where Quiet gets the child's necklace, where it seems like Miller is thinking about Quiet's ability to heal her wounds, as if he is thinking about using the parasites to get his limbs back. You can read as much from the way he acts at the end of the cinematic.

I wonder if this is a dropped plot point that will come back eventually. Maybe he infected himself with the parasite in some way.

That's reading into it a bit much.

If anything he's thinking "She just risked her life to save a child's necklace, maybe I was too hard on her", or "Wait a second, why haven't we interrogated her yet", or "God dammit, I can't figure out how Code Talker wants his hamburgers".

 

[Garrett Hawke]

oh was it? I didn't finish the questline. that's on me.

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neither did I tbh

I wanted to sell on the PS4 version while it was still worth something and I'm gunna try and 100% it on PC.

 

[Dick Justice]

That makes sense. He knew from the beginning but decided to play along because he saw an opportunity to build up DD and get revenge.

If he knows beforehand, why does he feel personally betrayed by Big Boss? It'd make more sense if he found out afterwards, as he'd be pissed that BB went into hiding while he got his arm and foot hacked off.

 

[Xpike]

if the post credits scene also takes place before Venom wakes up then what the fuck was this game for? Everything important already happened!

 

[fastmower]

Why does skullface wear a mask in this game? Does he think he look neato?

 

[SolVanderlyn]

is WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

really the only quotable moment we got out of this game?

Pax Hamburgana

There is a scene where Quiet gets the child's necklace, where it seems like Miller is thinking about Quiet's ability to heal her wounds, as if he is thinking about using the parasites to get his limbs back. You can read as much from the way he acts at the end of the cinematic.

I wonder if this is a dropped plot point that will come back eventually. Maybe he infected himself with the parasite in some way.

Code Talker tells Venom to watch out for Miller, too. And his eyes look super weird in that one cutscene.

 

[Dick Justice]

Why does skullface wear a mask in this game? Does he think he look neato?

He's a dom.

 

[Tecl0n]

Pax Hamburgana

The world will be united under one hamburger, the Boss true objective.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

He always knew. He was in on the plan from the beginning

Ocelot, Zero and BB were the only ones in on the plan, it was zero's plan, ocelot helped him do it.
Miller was contacted by zero, but he was never told about what was going to happen, just that big boss was being kept safe for now.

 

[Garrett Hawke]

Why does skullface wear a mask in this game? Does he think he look neato?

The mask is actually worn by Skull Face as a trophy - it's made from a piece of the original MSF flag from the Mother Base that he blew up. He wears it to taunt Snake every time they meet.

I made this up and it didn't actually happen but it could have been real. #TeamReal

 

[Chariot]

Why does skullface wear a mask in this game? Does he think he look neato?

Nobody must know his secret identity!

Maybe he has a split personality disorder, considering his characterization darts between Good Ol' Kaz and Miserable Asshole Kaz.

Could be, but I like the parasite theories. Where he was a spy all along without knowing or that infused himself with parasites to get limbs back and dance with Venom in the rain.

 

[Alienous]

He's a dom.

Mantis gets his kinkiness from Skull Face, then?

 

[JTripper]

Why does skullface wear a mask in this game? Does he think he look neato?

So baby gimme that WHOOOOOO WHOOOOOOO....

 

[Ryouji Gunblade]

He really wishes he was Dread Pirate Roberts.

 

[BrokenIcarus]

Another thing that really bugs me is how the botched the truth reveal. When the scene comes where Miller asks what happens to Medic and the doctors say he has shrapnel in his head, everything is already clear.

WHY THE FUCK DO YOU MAKE ME PLAY THROUGH 45 MINUTES OF NOT BEING ABLE TO MOVE AND TUTURIAL, JUST MAKE A GODDAMN CUTSCENE OF THE DIFFERNCES TO HIGHLIGHT THEM, WHAT THE FUCK??

 

[SolVanderlyn]

Does this look like a non parasite infected man to you?

He never answers V when he asks what's wrong with his eyes.

 

[Punished_Snake]

I have finished it today and oh boy I really liked the plot twist at the end. Yes, a lot of people speculated before that Snake in MGS V TPP won't be the real Big Boss, but what really happened is I forgot that when I started playing the game. You are building the motherbase, gameplay that convince you that you are controlling the legendary super soldier Big Boss and the feeling that you are in charge made me convinced that I'm Big Boss. Kojima made me sad in Quiet's last mission and made me laugh at myself in the truth mission. . Too bad some missions and cut scenes were cut, but this is certainly my GOTY .

 

[SuperStiltzkin]

is WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

really the only quotable moment we got out of this game?

"You destroyed their anti-air radar? That wasn't one of the targets..."

The hospital sequence was a great intro, but I thought we were gonna get a proper Kyle Cooper designed, actual MGS2/3 style intro after you escape on the whaling ship. Kinda disappointed there.

And watching the MGS2 intro again and seeing Snake and Raiden fighting back to back against arsenal tengu makes me wish Big Boss played a bigger role. However subtle it might be. Even when you were playing as Raiden, you still had Pliskin/Snake there in the background. And at the end it's full on you teaming up with Snake and its awesome. Maybe having a Naked Snake/Venom Snake team up is too much to ask and really compromises his cover, but I wish Big Boss made some appearance in the present events and not just in flashbacks. Maybe some hints as to Big Boss doing his own espionage work to help VS with his missions so that it doesn't just seem like Big Boss doing his own thing while VS does his own thing. Maybe Ocelot going "we got this intel from a...'reliable source'." and he's really talking about Big Boss. Something that makes him at least an active element in current events.

 

[Arion]

He didn't know from the beginning, only ocelot knew.
The lines at the end refer to him being done with BB's bullshit and he's off to find Eli and David, train them and have them take down BB.

If he knows beforehand, why does he feel personally betrayed by Big Boss? It'd make more sense if he found out afterwards, as he'd be pissed that BB went into hiding while he got his arm and foot hacked off.

But Miller was there on the day of the explosion and saw Medic get the shrapnel to the head and lose an arm, whereas BB merely went into coma with no significant scars. Millar was fully conscious on the hospital bed looking at the other two characters. And than 9 years later "Big Boss" shows up with scars very similar to the Medic's. Surely he must have suspected how Big Boss got a shrapnel to the head and lost an arm during his coma.

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

is WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

really the only quotable moment we got out of this game?

I will definitely call hamburgers "Nature's Blessings" from now on.

 

[Ether_Snake]

Does this look like a non parasite infected man to you?

He never answers V when he asks what's wrong with his eyes.

Yeah I said that too before, he says it's just bright. But someone posted a picture showing his eyes seemed fine earlier on. That being said, who knows if the eyes are always like that, if he was infected already when V saves him, etc.

But yeah Miller is set up as some sort of villain.

 

[Xpike]

Another thing that really bugs me is how the botched the truth reveal. When the scene comes where Miller asks what happens to Medic and the doctors say he has shrapnel in his head, everything is already clear.

WHY THE FUCK DO YOU MAKE ME PLAY THROUGH 45 MINUTES OF NOT BEING ABLE TO MOVE AND TUTURIAL, JUST MAKE A GODDAMN CUTSCENE OF THE DIFFERNCES TO HIGHLIGHT THEM, WHAT THE FUCK??

Because they ran out of budget so they could only copy paste the intro again

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

But Miller was there on the day of the explosion and saw Medic get the shrapnel to the head and lose an arm, whereas BB merely went into coma with no significant scars. And than 9 years later "Big Boss" shows up with scars very similar to the Medic's. Surely he must have suspected how Big Boss got a shrapnel to the head and lost an arm during his coma.

They kept sedating him, who knows how much he remembers from the Emergency surgery, when he woke up BB and V were already moved.

 

[Garrett Hawke]

But Miller was there on the day of the explosion and saw Medic get the shrapnel to the head and lose an arm, whereas BB merely went into coma with no significant scars. Millar was fully conscious on the hospital bed looking at the other two characters. And than 9 years later "Big Boss" shows up with scars very similar to the Medic's. Surely he must have suspected how Big Boss got a shrapnel to the head and lost an arm during his coma.

I would imagine Trauma like that would fuck with your memory and perception.

 

[Mister Negative]

Another thing that really bugs me is how the botched the truth reveal. When the scene comes where Miller asks what happens to Medic and the doctors say he has shrapnel in his head, everything is already clear.

WHY THE FUCK DO YOU MAKE ME PLAY THROUGH 45 MINUTES OF NOT BEING ABLE TO MOVE AND TUTURIAL, JUST MAKE A GODDAMN CUTSCENE OF THE DIFFERNCES TO HIGHLIGHT THEM, WHAT THE FUCK??

Well there's that and the mirror reveal. Those are the only differences that I can remember. Which sucks, because I sat through all the cutscenes again trying to see if there would be more differences.

 

[jediyoshi]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAeGbjjMZ5w

How do you get the English version of this scene? Interpreter?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTJHluVyb1U

Whoa

 

[BrokenIcarus]

Because they ran out of budget so they could only copy paste the intro again

They couldn't atleast cut out those scenes where you're just moving at snails pace for 15 minutes. That shit is so damn anticlimatic.

It's like "Oh wow, it wasn't the real Big Boss all along, and now watch as this random medic crawls through a hospital and the real Big Boss explain how to play the game you've been playing for the last 40 hours. Also please focus a lot on this Volgin on Fire guy, who's never really gonna be explained at all. Yay, the end."

 

[Dick Justice]

Well there's that and the mirror reveal. Those are the only differences that I can remember. Which sucks, because I sat through all the cutscenes again trying to see if there would be more differences.

You don't even get to see Biggu Bossu light up Quiet. Same cut to black.

 

[SolVanderlyn]

Yo, if this Black Hound thing turns out to be real I hope Black Hound is a fucking awesome character.

WHAT IF BLACK HOUND IS QUIET'S XOF CODENAME

 

[DarkChronic]

So uh, without having to go through 400ish pages, who wants to give me the cliffs on this 9/11 announcement Kojima ruse thing?

Confirmed to be a bust?

Another thing that really bugs me is how the botched the truth reveal. When the scene comes where Miller asks what happens to Medic and the doctors say he has shrapnel in his head, everything is already clear.

WHY THE FUCK DO YOU MAKE ME PLAY THROUGH 45 MINUTES OF NOT BEING ABLE TO MOVE AND TUTURIAL, JUST MAKE A GODDAMN CUTSCENE OF THE DIFFERNCES TO HIGHLIGHT THEM, WHAT THE FUCK??

Yeah. This also really sucked. Totally took the hype out of the reveal when I realized I had to play it all again.

 

[Dick Justice]

So uh, without having to go through 400ish pages, who wants to give me the cliffs on this 9/11 announcement Kojima ruse thing?

Confirmed to be a bust?

Probably just the same bullshit as that "6 months after MGS4" theory way back.

 

[RampantCereal]

so, i just noticed that in episode 46 it says guest starring paz, is that suposed to represent the fragments of paz inside VS or something?

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

They couldn't atleast cut out those scenes where you're just moving at snails pace for 15 minutes. That shit is so damn anticlimatic.

You had to do all of it so you could see all the time and money that went into making V's awesomely animated backmuscle normals.

 

[Ether_Snake]

Yo, if this Black Hound thing turns out to be real I hope Black Hound is a fucking awesome character.

WHAT IF BLACK HOUND IS QUIET'S XOF CODENAME

Black Hound sounds like Gray Fox to me!

Also notice that everyone else seem to notice that this Big Boss is not quite right Huey, the Boss AI, undead Volgin, the MSF soldiers (they recognize the box and the song, but not us). Only Kaz doesn't seem to notice anything.

Kaz could know since he was brought back to MB really.

He says he'll use V.

 

[Chariot]

Also notice that everyone else seem to notice that this Big Boss is not quite right Huey, the Boss AI, undead Volgin, the MSF soldiers (they recognize the box and the song, but not us). Only Kaz doesn't seem to notice anything.

 

[Garrett Hawke]

Probably just the same bullshit as that "6 months after MGS4" theory way back.

And yet still more likely than Kojima's "words and deeds" warning being true.

 

[Alienous]

so, i just noticed that in episode 46 it says guest starring paz, is that suposed to represent the fragments of paz inside VS or something?

Jesus, that would be dark.

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

so, i just noticed that in episode 46 it says guest starring paz, is that suposed to represent the fragments of paz inside VS or something?

rofl

 

[BrokenIcarus]

You had to do all of it so you could see all the time and money that went into making V's awesomely animated backmuscle normals.

I saw all of that 3 years ago when Joakim Mogren showed of his new game. C'mon!

 

[ponpo]

That Ingsoc thing is BS I think but 9/11 + we never got that promised GROUND ZEROes mission makes me hopeful ;_;

 

[Arion]

They couldn't atleast cut out those scenes where you're just moving at snails pace for 15 minutes. That shit is so damn anticlimatic.

It's like "Oh wow, it wasn't the real Big Boss all along, and now watch as this random medic crawls through a hospital and the real Big Boss explain how to play the game you've been playing for the last 40 hours. Also please focus a lot on this Volgin on Fire guy, who's never really gonna be explained at all. Yay, the end."

They explain Volgin, along with most of the other stuff in the game, very thoroughly in the Cassette tapes. It kinda boils down to "Psycho Mantis is god" but they do make an attempt to explain him.

 

[Xpike]

They explain Volgin, along with most of the other stuff in the game, very thoroughly in the Cassette tapes. It kinda boils down to "Psycho Mantis is god" but they do make an attempt to explain him.

so what are the real nanomachines of this game, parasites or Mantis?

 

[Tecl0n]

so what are the real nanomachines of this game, parasites or Mantis?

now, this is a good question.

 

[BrokenIcarus]

They explain Volgin, along with most of the other stuff in the game, very thoroughly in the Cassette tapes. It kinda boils down to "Psycho Mantis is god" but they do make an attempt to explain him.

Eeeeh, they explain him, but it's not really all that conclusive and his plot line just kinda ends without ever being fleshed out AT ALL.

 

[SolVanderlyn]

I feel like Mantis is the real victim in this game, I mean, he went from having the coolest hair out of any character to looking like a freak by MGS1. Poor guy.

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Adopting the personality of a criminal killer through mind reading is pretty brutal too I guess