100 OLED light....... holy shit man, that must be overly bright.
I use 60 OLED light and that is even too bright in a dark room.
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100 OLED light....... holy shit man, that must be overly bright.
I use 60 OLED light and that is even too bright in a dark room.
Tatsumi Oga
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Well it was the default ECO setting actually
I like bright, but i might crank that down to 50 or so.
Just now i changed the Xbox One's color space to PC RGB and i kept the TV's black level at low. Holy crap the nighttimes are pitch black in GTA V then, but not unrealistically dark, i actually really like that look. It's how nighttime truly looks in real life. However this also crushes blacks probably.
sankt-Antonio
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As far as i know and read reviews, these new OLED sets have been rated the best TVs ever made including beating everything Kuro.
IXI FalcoN
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http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/black.php
Pull that link up on the PS4/Xbone web browser to see if there's black crush. Best done in a dark room. You should be able to see each individual square, with square 1 being just barely visible. If you can only see the bottom 2 rows or whatever, blacks are crushed.
Also, I believe MS never fixed the full RGB setting on the Xbone. It uses some weird gamma curve that pretty much makes it impossible to properly output full RGB. See this thread for more details: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=722069
PS4 outputs full RGB properly. Looks beautiful when calibrated properly. I'm stuck with limited on the Xbone. Colors aren't as rich and blacks aren't as inky. Oh well.
Full RGB isn't advised outside of games, so you may want to just stick to limited if you use your PS4 for blu-rays and other media.
Pull that link up on the PS4/Xbone web browser to see if there's black crush. Best done in a dark room. You should be able to see each individual square, with square 1 being just barely visible. If you can only see the bottom 2 rows or whatever, blacks are crushed.
Also, I believe MS never fixed the full RGB setting on the Xbone. It uses some weird gamma curve that pretty much makes it impossible to properly output full RGB. See this thread for more details: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=722069
PS4 outputs full RGB properly. Looks beautiful when calibrated properly. I'm stuck with limited on the Xbone. Colors aren't as rich and blacks aren't as inky. Oh well.
Full RGB isn't advised outside of games, so you may want to just stick to limited if you use your PS4 for blu-rays and other media.
FrankNitty
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Hell IMHO the ZT60 beat the Kuros when you actually stack them up and look at the performance then if you throw in the fact that at the time you could actually buy a new ZT60, and it was 15 inches bigger, 3D, streaming apps, better up-scaling, and motion resolution etc. The only thing the those particular models of Kuros had over the ZT60 was a lower MLL but not by much unless you did a voltage tweak. It puts it into perspective. Even now with OLED, performance wise its pretty impressive, infinite contrast, 4K, 3D, HDR...
Tatsumi Oga
Banned
Thanks for that link man. I will definitely give it a shot. Just now i was playing Witcher 3 and the Xbox was set to PC RGB and the TV to black level low, definitely not AVS and other forums recommend, but with these settings i do get a beautiful looking dark night in Witcher 3, proper dark. But personally i've never been happy with how nighttime has been done in most games, always a tad too bright. But even if MS was to correct the RGB full/PC. would it make a difference?
A while ago someone told me...using the Xbox' limited with the TV's low black level, should be the same as Xbox on RGB PC and TV's black level on high.
Take Tomb Raider DE for example, the cave that leads to the very first tomb in the beginning, it's waaaaay too bright, but put the XBox color space to PC RGB and keep the TV's black level at low, and it looks fantastic and realistic.
brainchild
Banned
Unless they have an input lag response of 16ms or less, they can never be the 'best TV's ever made'.
How the standards have fallen.
Jigolo
Member
Uhh your view on the market is a bit skewed
Tatsumi Oga
Banned
I think that's subjective. Personally i am fine with 30 to 40ms input lag, the lower the better of course. Plus while i love shooters, it's not my number one gaming genre. If i had been playing nothing but shooters, i probably would go for a TV with the lowest input lag yeah. If a certain TV is giving me a much better looking picture but higher input lag, i'm ok with that, cause it will be fine for my favorite genre which is RPG.
HDR is amazing
If you guys can download the HDR demos of Life of Pi and Exodus. Sooooo good, I cannot wait for UHD Blu Ray
That looks great. It's like the picture is floating. You don't even see the TV anymore in a dark room. I hope that when I do get a OLED, I can dim my room like that too. I love that.
brainchild
Banned
Yes, skewed towards objective standards that should have never depreciated in the first place. It's like people forgot that CRTs existed. If we're talking about 'best TVs ever made', that would include CRT TVs, and the OLED TVs fail spectacularly when being compared to them. Forgive me if I'm not groveling at the feet of today's TV manufacturers for putting out products inferior to 10+ year old technology.
I'm talking about things that can be objectively measured, like specifications for CRT TV's. They were better TV's. It's that simple.
Tatsumi Oga
Banned
HDR is amazing
If you guys can download the HDR demos of Life of Pi and Exodus. Sooooo good, I cannot wait for UHD Blu Ray
I don't believe the EC9300 has HDR. I assume the newer models have it?
DirtyLarry
Member
Yep, my TV supports it.
I had NO IDEA it was another plan.
Just upgraded and FINALLY!!! My TV is outputting Netflix in 4K!!! (Well 2160p to be technical)
Wait what?? How long have they been doing this? I bought it less than a month ago and never got any such offer.
EDIT - Turns out that is only LG TV's, I got a Vizio. Oh well. I can afford the extra 4 bucks a month, hopefully they get more content though.
Bornstellar
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Use PC + Expert for best settings. And absolutely disable Tru Motion and ANY post-processing settings. Adds tons of input lag right there. Stick to low black and the standard color space on Xbox / PS4. Brightness should probably be just above 50, and you can pump up OLED brightness without messing up blacks. Maybe I'll post my settings in a second. I'm pretty damned satisfied with them.
DirtyLarry
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Also, I have to say I am still not convinced it is not my receiver that only supports HDCP 2.0 holding back both my XBox One and PS4 at upscaling to 2160p.
With both of them I see the option for 2160p for about 3-5 seconds when they both boot up, then the TV flashes a couple of times, and winds up on 1080p. They both appear to be doing 2160p but then the TV stops it. I clearly see the TV report 2160p then drop to 1080p. Clearly.
I just wish there was a way not to take a $700+ chance on picking up a new receiver, but I would 110% do so if it means both of them do upscale to 2160p. I am pretty damn positive, especially based on now seeing Netflix doing 2160p, that neither is automatically upscaling. I just do not think they are.
With both of them I see the option for 2160p for about 3-5 seconds when they both boot up, then the TV flashes a couple of times, and winds up on 1080p. They both appear to be doing 2160p but then the TV stops it. I clearly see the TV report 2160p then drop to 1080p. Clearly.
I just wish there was a way not to take a $700+ chance on picking up a new receiver, but I would 110% do so if it means both of them do upscale to 2160p. I am pretty damn positive, especially based on now seeing Netflix doing 2160p, that neither is automatically upscaling. I just do not think they are.
Bornstellar
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Here are my basic settings for the EC9300:
OLED LIGHT: 100 (Adjust as needed, but I love the huge contrast you get maxing this)
Contrast: 90
Brightness: 55
H Sharpness: 10
V Sharpness: 10
Color: 50
Tint: 0
Dynamic Contrast: OFF
Super Resolution: OFF
Color Gamut: Standard (Wide can work as well, though I feel standard is a bit more balanced)
Edge Enhancer: OFF
Color Filter: OFF (durr, unless you are doing calibration)
Gamma: 2.4 (Helps with blacks)
Black Level: LOW
White Balance: I use these settings
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-ol...oled-lg-55ec9300-part-ii-19.html#post29916225
I tried taking some showcase pics then laughed when I realized my phone camera wasn't coming close to doing the TV justice.
5k.
OLED LIGHT: 100 (Adjust as needed, but I love the huge contrast you get maxing this)
Contrast: 90
Brightness: 55
H Sharpness: 10
V Sharpness: 10
Color: 50
Tint: 0
Dynamic Contrast: OFF
Super Resolution: OFF
Color Gamut: Standard (Wide can work as well, though I feel standard is a bit more balanced)
Edge Enhancer: OFF
Color Filter: OFF (durr, unless you are doing calibration)
Gamma: 2.4 (Helps with blacks)
Black Level: LOW
White Balance: I use these settings
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-ol...oled-lg-55ec9300-part-ii-19.html#post29916225
I tried taking some showcase pics then laughed when I realized my phone camera wasn't coming close to doing the TV justice.
5k.
As a prior proud owner of a 32" HD super fine pitch Sony Wega, I will take the LG 65EF9500 every single day over my old 300lb Sony.
brainchild
Banned
Good for you.
Just to be clear, I'm not using a CRT TV now. I have a 47" Sony KDL-47W802A. However, if CRT HDTVs were back on the market with a maximum display resolution of 1080p or more, it would be my top pick. I don't care how much it weighs.
They won't because they were heavy, resolution limited, tiny screen, power hogs though. Would I like the input lag to match the response time on OLEDs? Sure. But I'm not going to be really upset as I PC game mostly and casually console game and more so watch movies, stream, and watch TV on the big screen, and that LG delivers the experience in spades compared to my old Sony. But then again, thats my opinion and needs, which differ from yours for example.
Owningrampage
Banned
Samsung UN65JU6700 Curved 65-Inch 4K Ultra HD Smart LED TV anyone have this model before i buy it down the road
brainchild
Banned
The truth is, I don't need OLED to be at CRT levels of input lag. Just better than what they are. If they can get to 16ms or less, I'll hop onboard.
DJ Lushious
Member
What receiver do you own? A quick look at the manual is all you'll need to determine if the receiver can handle 4K up scaling or not (and what settings need to be changed).
Jigolo
Member
http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/by-brand/samsung/ju6700
You've probably already read the reviews tho
Tatsumi Oga
Banned
Question for the people with a LG OLED EC9300 or the other OLEDS
I am now playing the Battlefront beta and especially with the white background and in the Hoth map I see the snow is not perfectly white, sadly far from it. Basically in the mid section of the screen it's nearing a greenish tint, luckily no real bad banding though. In no way is this as bad as I had on the Panasonic VT30 plasma a few years ago, but neither is it like a white background should be. How is this for you guys? I am using the Game picture mode but I tried other modes too.
THanks Bornstellar, I will definitely give those settings a shot. At the moment I really like Game mode without any real changes. Good colours, crisp picture and great low input lag. But man... This TV... This fucking TV.
I am now playing the Battlefront beta and especially with the white background and in the Hoth map I see the snow is not perfectly white, sadly far from it. Basically in the mid section of the screen it's nearing a greenish tint, luckily no real bad banding though. In no way is this as bad as I had on the Panasonic VT30 plasma a few years ago, but neither is it like a white background should be. How is this for you guys? I am using the Game picture mode but I tried other modes too.
THanks Bornstellar, I will definitely give those settings a shot. At the moment I really like Game mode without any real changes. Good colours, crisp picture and great low input lag. But man... This TV... This fucking TV.
DirtyLarry
Member
Yep, I have the manual and I know it supports 4K, it is a Sony STR-DN1040, but it is a 2 or year or so model. I know it only supports HDCP 2.0. All the literature on my TV mentions HDCP 2.2. I have read that in some situations HDCP 2.0 is enough. For mine it does not appear to be.
What I am going to try and do is take a video and upload it to YouTube so everyone can see what I am seeing. If I go into the One's Display settings, and uncheck 24hz then check it again, that is when the TV detects a 2160p signal and actually stays on it. It is not until I click Apply that the TV flashes for about 3 to 5 seconds and reverts back to 1080p.
All Vizio needed to do was if a signal was automatically being upscaled is put a little + next to the 1080p or something along those lines. Would have gone a long way in letting the end user know the resolution was being upscaled automatically.
Let me end by saying most of my career has been spent doing multimedia design. Websites, Apps, Videos for Display Kiosks, the list goes on and on. I am very familiar and intimate with resolution itself. If my TV is indeed upscaling the 1080p signal automatically to 2160p, I am having a pretty difficult time seeing it. When I run Netflix in 2160, it is very, very obvious I am doing so.
Perhaps my expectations were too high. Perhaps my receiver is indeed holding things back because it only supports HDCP 2.0. I will say though I would have went with a smaller size TV if I knew this was all going to be the case. 1080p on a 65" TV with cable TV does not look that good at all. I know the cable TV is the primary reason as to why, but I also was hoping the upscaling would address the issue.
Caayn
Member
Just made a strange jump, bought a 55" Philips 9109. I know it's not the most popular brand and/or model, but I fell in love with the Ambilight thanks to my parents having an Ambilight TV. And I wanted something bigger so I sold my old one and bought this one. I tested it in the store before I bought it, to make sure that the input lag isn't too bad for gaming.
Watching movies and playing games on it is amazing. Star Wars at 4K with 60fps at max settings plus 4 sided Ambilight is awesome.
Here's a video from one of the more intense Ambilight settings on this model: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D8fWoSNE8Y
Still need to finish up the cable management, and hook everything up correctly.
Watching movies and playing games on it is amazing. Star Wars at 4K with 60fps at max settings plus 4 sided Ambilight is awesome.
Here's a video from one of the more intense Ambilight settings on this model: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D8fWoSNE8Y
Still need to finish up the cable management, and hook everything up correctly.
Tatsumi Oga
Banned
Congrats man, looks great. I was deciding between the LG and that one myself, but i was told the input lag just wasn't good enough for gaming.
As for the LG....i've included two photos of how it looks here. Is this considered bad guys? I especially see it on the snow when i play the Battlefront beta. White snow with a greenish tint. Can be seen in both pics.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/70qydhqsjrptavx/20151008_185713.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bjp2vy2op7jcuvj/20151008_211320.jpg?dl=0
As for the LG....i've included two photos of how it looks here. Is this considered bad guys? I especially see it on the snow when i play the Battlefront beta. White snow with a greenish tint. Can be seen in both pics.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/70qydhqsjrptavx/20151008_185713.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bjp2vy2op7jcuvj/20151008_211320.jpg?dl=0
Hows this for a budget extra room TV for gaming? I've heard good things about the lack of input lag.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HPMCO46/?tag=neogaf0e-20
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HPMCO46/?tag=neogaf0e-20
ACH1LL3US
Member
Uh... I love the Kuro.. had a pro101 Dnice calibrated which I eventually sold to him lol.
Now having an LG Oled myself, there is no comparison here, the Oled is better then the best Kuro's or any other tv imho. I did like the Samsung js9000 I had but the Oled is far far superior. Not only are the black on another level but the tv has no pwm!! Also the motion clarity is better the led and I much prefer the motion of the Oled over the Kuro, no phosphor trails, no pwm, no dse , all issues even the best Kuro's had.
Its time to move on from the Kuro
That 65ef9500 Frank got I saw at Best Buy the other day... best tv I have ever set eyes on period.
PsihoPerihelion
Member
Thanks for the answer. I don't know shit about TVs so can I ask why they got returned so often? I'm interested on a TV that handles motion blur as effective as posible. Someone recommended the 6200 but that is not available on my country.AGITΩ;180918950 said:
ACH1LL3US
Member
Some ec9300 have more discoloration then others. I wouldnt worry too much about it
Here are my calibrated ec9300 settings ( input icon pc, game mode, Leo bodnar is showing me 29ms for middle bar!)
Oled light 60 ( set to whatever you desire, doesnt effect black level)
Brightness 53-54
Contrast 80 ( unless your going to calibrate with the 20 point you should not go over 80 as you crush detail in the whites!!)
Sharpness 0 ( tiny bit of edge enhancement until you turn off shaprness then pure image )
Color 45 ( game mode pushes wide gamut color so you need to push down to 45 to get colors right)
hdmi black level low (leave ps4 and xbox one at standard for black level)
Color temp w50 (gives 6500k)
Gamma high ( 2.4) Gives the set at actually 2.2 which is what you want for gaming.
Jigolo
Member
Some ec9300 have more discoloration then others. I wouldnt worry too much about it
Here are my calibrated ec9300 settings ( input icon pc, game mode, Leo bodnar is showing me 29ms for middle bar!)
Oled light 60 ( set to whatever you desire, doesnt effect black level)
Brightness 53-54
Contrast 80 ( unless your going to calibrate with the 20 point you should not go over 80 as you crush detail in the whites!!)
Sharpness 0 ( tiny bit of edge enhancement until you turn off shaprness then pure image )
Color 45 ( game mode pushes wide gamut color so you need to push down to 45 to get colors right)
hdmi black level low (leave ps4 and xbox one at standard for black level)
Color temp w50 (gives 6500k)
Gamma high ( 2.4) Gives the set at actually 2.2 which is what you want for gaming.
Curious as to which HDMI label you're using? 1-2-3 or 4?
Bornstellar
Member
Unfortunately 20 point is not available in game mode - so if you want to use game mode instead of expert these are probably the better settings.Some ec9300 have more discoloration then others. I wouldnt worry too much about it
Here are my calibrated ec9300 settings ( input icon pc, game mode, Leo bodnar is showing me 29ms for middle bar!)
Oled light 60 ( set to whatever you desire, doesnt effect black level)
Brightness 53-54
Contrast 80 ( unless your going to calibrate with the 20 point you should not go over 80 as you crush detail in the whites!!)
Sharpness 0 ( tiny bit of edge enhancement until you turn off shaprness then pure image )
Color 45 ( game mode pushes wide gamut color so you need to push down to 45 to get colors right)
hdmi black level low (leave ps4 and xbox one at standard for black level)
Color temp w50 (gives 6500k)
Gamma high ( 2.4) Gives the set at actually 2.2 which is what you want for gaming.
Also, as an FYI, OLED light DOES affect black levels if you set brightness above 59 / 60. Which is supremely dumb.
Elitist1945
Member
Please tell me that ambient light thing isn't exclusive to Philip TVs I have a Sony TV and that looks so cool!
I have a Sony TV and that looks so cool!
The Lamonster
Member
This looks fucking awesome.Just made a strange jump, bought a 55" Philips 9109. I know it's not the most popular brand and/or model, but I fell in love with the Ambilight thanks to my parents having an Ambilight TV. And I wanted something bigger so I sold my old one and bought this one. I tested it in the store before I bought it, to make sure that the input lag isn't too bad for gaming.
Watching movies and playing games on it is amazing. Star Wars at 4K with 60fps at max settings plus 4 sided Ambilight is awesome.
Here's a video from one of the more intense Ambilight settings on this model: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D8fWoSNE8Y
Still need to finish up the cable management, and hook everything up correctly.
edit: not sold in the US
Monty Mole
Member
Which hdmi port are you using? 29ms is a great result. Did you turn the integral speakers off too as that apparently reduces lag further (if you're using an external receiver)?Some ec9300 have more discoloration then others. I wouldnt worry too much about it
Here are my calibrated ec9300 settings ( input icon pc, game mode, Leo bodnar is showing me 29ms for middle bar!)
Oled light 60 ( set to whatever you desire, doesnt effect black level)
Brightness 53-54
Contrast 80 ( unless your going to calibrate with the 20 point you should not go over 80 as you crush detail in the whites!!)
Sharpness 0 ( tiny bit of edge enhancement until you turn off shaprness then pure image )
Color 45 ( game mode pushes wide gamut color so you need to push down to 45 to get colors right)
hdmi black level low (leave ps4 and xbox one at standard for black level)
Color temp w50 (gives 6500k)
Gamma high ( 2.4) Gives the set at actually 2.2 which is what you want for gaming.
Caayn
Member
Thanks for the kind words guys.
And Philips is already busy with bringing the Ambilight successor AmbiLuxto the market.Philips Ambilux/
Ambilight is exclusive to Philips, has been since the first TV that used in back in 2004. There are Ambilight clones though, such as Lightberry and Ambivision. But they aren't as good as the real thing in my opinion.Please tell me that ambient light thing isn't exclusive to Philip TVs
And Philips is already busy with bringing the Ambilight successor AmbiLuxto the market.Philips Ambilux/
ACH1LL3US
Member
I tested all 4 hdmi inputs, all give the same number and turning off the speakers did not change the lag numbers.
MrBenchmark
Member
I have the P55 i do have netflix but dont use any of the built in apps i have a PS4 Xbox One and Apple TV you get the picture so i have never use the built in ones.
i also don't have the 4K netflix in my subscription i just have the normal streaming plan.
sorry don't use arc as on the P55 it doesn't work on HDMI 5 which is the P55 2.0 highspeed low latency port my AVR feed everything into that one port.
Mohonky
Member
Just made a strange jump, bought a 55" Philips 9109. I know it's not the most popular brand and/or model, but I fell in love with the Ambilight thanks to my parents having an Ambilight TV. And I wanted something bigger so I sold my old one and bought this one. I tested it in the store before I bought it, to make sure that the input lag isn't too bad for gaming.
Watching movies and playing games on it is amazing. Star Wars at 4K with 60fps at max settings plus 4 sided Ambilight is awesome.
Here's a video from one of the more intense Ambilight settings on this model: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D8fWoSNE8Y
Still need to finish up the cable management, and hook everything up correctly.
I fucking love Ambilight, wish Philips licensed it out. Their 21:9 TV with ambilight was amazing.
So disappointed neither 21:9 nor the ambilight tech took off.
Uh... I love the Kuro.. had a pro101 Dnice calibrated which I eventually sold to him lol.
Now having an LG Oled myself, there is no comparison here, the Oled is better then the best Kuro's or any other tv imho. I did like the Samsung js9000 I had but the Oled is far far superior. Not only are the black on another level but the tv has no pwm!! Also the motion clarity is better the led and I much prefer the motion of the Oled over the Kuro, no phosphor trails, no pwm, no dse , all issues even the best Kuro's had.
Its time to move on from the Kuro
That 65ef9500 Frank got I saw at Best Buy the other day... best tv I have ever set eyes on period.
I still love my Kuro 5020 and I've never had nor seen phosphor trails (either they're not there or I'm just not sensitive to them), nor do I really notice anything bad about the motion handling. However, I'm really wanting to go larger than 50" so this is nice to hear about the OLEDs. I think I'll still wait for next year though to let the whole 4k HDR thing settle out.
If it has to come at the expense of all the advancements made in PQ with OLED displays, then gaming at super low lag can fuck off.
I'm perfectly content with 30ms.
Otherwise, just go CRT for some beast mode response time and focus on gaming.
Tatsumi Oga
Banned
Some ec9300 have more discoloration then others. I wouldnt worry too much about it
Here are my calibrated ec9300 settings ( input icon pc, game mode, Leo bodnar is showing me 29ms for middle bar!)
Oled light 60 ( set to whatever you desire, doesnt effect black level)
Brightness 53-54
Contrast 80 ( unless your going to calibrate with the 20 point you should not go over 80 as you crush detail in the whites!!)
Sharpness 0 ( tiny bit of edge enhancement until you turn off shaprness then pure image )
Color 45 ( game mode pushes wide gamut color so you need to push down to 45 to get colors right)
hdmi black level low (leave ps4 and xbox one at standard for black level)
Color temp w50 (gives 6500k)
Gamma high ( 2.4) Gives the set at actually 2.2 which is what you want for gaming.
I've been trying a lot of these settings except for the white balance. In these settings you have: Method, Pattern, point, and red green blue. But on the AVS link Bornstellar posted the guy does not mention if he uses the Outer method or the Inner one. Do you know Bornstellar?
As for the other settings, i am OK with most of those except for the colour temperature. Warm is just not for me, i don't like how my games look with that (now i have not yet calibrated white balance, so that might make a big difference) but right now i am going with medium or actually cool. For some games like Halo 4 i liked to put super resolution to low or medium, cause it seemed to give it even more detail and the input lag was still very very decent for me.
Good advice on the contrast, i have it at 100 now, hell i got both OLED Light and contrast at 100. But if i am indeed crushing white detail, i don't want that. I have not been properly calibrating with test patterns yet. I think i'll use Xbox One's graphics calibration thingy. I have been trying these settings with both game mode and expert 1 and on game mode i really like how grass was actually green in Witcher 3, but with expert 1 it was too colourless, so i might go with a wide colour gamut there.
I am not gonna go with game + pc mode, cause i simply don't like the picture quality with that. It's significantly less crisp compared to expert 1 + pc mode for example.
But long story short. Bornstellar, was the guy using Inner or Outer method settings?
draughn101
Member
I'm debating hard here on the next TV. I have a Vizio M (4K) at 55" and love it, but I'm looking to upgrade to the 65". For just a bit more I can get the LG 55" EC9300. Not sure which to pull the trigger on. Gaming on it mostly and watching movies.
This will be my Halo 5 TV lol. Someone push me in a direction lol
This will be my Halo 5 TV lol. Someone push me in a direction lol
Jigolo
Member
Vizio M is a reltively new model isn't it? How often do you upgrade TVs? I'd say just stay with the TV you have. It's going to be your Halo 5 TV, right? M series has some of the best input lag.
draughn101
Member
We need one for the bedroom, so we were throwing that in there and getting something new for the living room
Bornstellar
Member
Outer. And yeah, contrast at 100 will blow away your white detail. Warm 2 should be fine with the 20 point adjustment (it helps balance it).
Jigolo
Member
Oh I see in that case I'd get the 65" M series vizio because it's good for movies (size) and great input lag for games.
May not have the best PQ but rtings holds the M series to a high regard.
I'd wait for Black Friday if you live in the US
draughn101
Member
That was my line of thinking, but the dirty screen effect is pretty noticeable in games, and I wonder if the bigger screen would make it more so. I was wondering if the brilliant OLED picture would makes games that much better.
I'd probably wait on the Vizio but I can't imagine the OLED being cheaper than $700 off