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Star Wars: The Force Awakens Final Trailer

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He's seen some shit.
 
So to be fair, I decided to rewatch the Revenge of the Sith trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPd4qLUjWxU

Please tell me you can see the difference in pacing in the trailer, framing, lighting, quality of backgrounds, speed of the camera tracking the action, and general coherence to the trailer itself.

This trailer is vastly better.
 
Yes the prequels where an event but turned out horrible. Is that up for debate? And yes the people who make the movie matter. Holy crap, how would you feel if Michael Bay was at the helm? Dude just because it's star wars does not mean it's gonna be amazing
You are indeed moving goalposts. We are not talking about the ultimate quality of the film.

The prequels are shitty movies that people still fiercely debate to this day. Even they were huge culture-shaking events, and even they are not in any way forgotten. Shouldn't that be the clue you need that Star Wars releases cannot be anything but culturally relevant? Not even the prequels could diminish that essential quality of mass cultural importance.
 
There is a spoiler thread if you wanna go down that path...I did and kinda regret it now.

I don't really want to spoil myself... But it's right there in the trailer for all to see.

Obviously not confirmation that someone dies, but Rey is clearly weeping over someone's body. I find it strange that they included that shot in the trailer if it is actually a major spoiler. Hopefully it's just someone injured or maybe not one of the main characters.
 
Read my original post about the trailer, all I said was Fords acting looks terrible (and it is) and the dialog is pretensions.. People acted like I shit on the original movies

Yeah I get that. You gave your opinion and criticized a part of this new trailer, that's fine. People jumped on you because it's Star Wars and that's what happens. Now you're acting like you know what the quality of the film will be based on a few trailers, which is impossible. Are you trying to tell me that you didn't like people jumping on you, then just to get back at them you are stating things that you have no actual knowledge of?

Who was talking about the prequels 2 years ago? Also this movie will be good enough to not be remembered as bad. It will be bland and fit for mass consumption

You're still doing it, you know nothing of the quality of this film and you're starting to come across as bitter.
 
Have you?

No I haven't, but I'm not making definitive statements about the quality of the film.

For me A New Hope was a life changing movie. Doesn't bothering me they are re packaging it to make money. Just bums me out everyone is acting like it's gonna be A New Hope again when it's gonna be more Revenge of the Sith

You haven't seen the movie. You don't know that it's simply a repackaged "A New Hope". You don't know that it's going to be more "Revenge of the Sith". These are the definitive concrete claims that More_Badass and I are referring to.
 
So to be fair, I decided to rewatch the Revenge of the Sith trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPd4qLUjWxU

Please tell me you can see the difference in pacing in the trailer, framing, lighting, quality of backgrounds, speed of the camera tracking the action, and general coherence to the trailer itself.

This trailer is vastly better.

really? I liked that sith trailer, really gets the shit's going down crashing and burning feel, and explains the basic story since most people know the end already.

Where this trailer is more of a "The adventure has just begun" vibe.
 
A long long time ago, on a page way back when I reworded my argument to fit to what I was trying to say. I'll say it again for you. This movie will be as cultural relevant as a new Iphone. Do you understand what I mean?

It still doesn't make any sense...

There are freaking lines of toys and clothes being released for the movie. Star Wars costumes will be common during Halloween. Just on GAF we have tons of threads about a movie two months away. It is plainly apparent that it is having a cultural impact far greater than the next iphone release.
 
This is ridiculous if you want an argument seek it somewhere else, I refuse to engage anymore in your trolling. I hope you resolve whatever antagonist tendencies drive you to dismissively respond to people then get upset when they don't appreciate it. I'm sorry my comment about Blasters upset, confused, angered or whatever'd you so I shall endeavor to never dare quote you again out of fear you may be offended. I hope you have a better day later on.

Heres a simple suggestion, if you are going to quote someone, explain yourself.

If you are going to quote someone and then leave vague, smug statements without any stated purpose or context two posts in a row, don't cry like a baby that people get frustrated and start making assumptions. And don't cry about that person's assumptions about your unclear statements when you are simultaneously making personal assumptions about the other person.
 
That's an open ended question that really outside the scope of this thread. Ill summarize, tons of atmosphere, simple but effect plot, characters with easy to relate dialog.

These are things that couldn't really be detected from a trailer, though. Especially one that is designed for mass market and played for the first time in the middle of an American football game. A skilled editor could make a trailer have any tone from any movie.

I understand that the tone and cuts of the trailer are not to your liking. I could see your point if you had said "this trailer looks bland and made for mass consumption". But to go from that to "this is a movie with low cultural impact that would not be remembered in 20-30 years" feels like a very huge jump to me.
 
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Black Storm Trooper is already my favorite Star Wars character. He's gonna be like Kyle Katarn going from total scrublord to force-wielding badass over the span of the movie.
 
So to be fair, I decided to rewatch the Revenge of the Sith trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPd4qLUjWxU

Please tell me you can see the difference in pacing in the trailer, framing, lighting, quality of backgrounds, speed of the camera tracking the action, and general coherence to the trailer itself.

This trailer is vastly better.
Jesus fucking christ, what was the criteria for this? "Alright guys, trailer time. Have you all finished condensing the entire film and conclusion into this preview?"
 
Have you?

Multiple people have asked this question to you and you responded with "it looks like a dumb sci fi action movie cuz jj abrams" excuse to only ONE person. You don't deserve to ask this question after tooting your own horn in a dismissive manner many times.

Answer the question, don't give anyone excuses.
 
Visually stunning, hype instantly reached .5 past light speed. Yes, I don't like JJ's fanservice and I still fear the movie will recycle too many ideas but I have to judge what I've seen and it's beautiful.
And a honor mention to whoever made the trailer, you are a good person, thanks for showing me things without spoiling all the plot.
 
Jesus fucking christ, what was the criteria for this? "Alright guys, trailer time. Have you all finished condensing the entire film and conclusion into this preview?"

well, since we all knew what would have to happen at the conclusion of the prequel trilogy, i think it was meant to tease the "you're going to see shit happen. We're not just showing Vader bow to palpatine and then fade to black." aspect

Also
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Finn "Wow, Kylo really shows no mercy with his Vader fanboy impression right guys?"
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Finn "WAIT, WHAT DID I DO? ALL THIS OVER A JACKET?"
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Finn "Well, it looks like Kylo Ren and the squad don't want me anymore"
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Finn "I think I'll just go join the Rebels and become a Jedi"
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Finn "WTF, didn't I just see you get tortured on the Dark Side? Are you undercover for the Dark Lord?"
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I just think your thinking is flawed. The Empire Strikes Back is not amazing because it's the follow up to A New Hope . it's amazing because it's a great movie in it's own right. Being a star wars movie didn't help the prequel movies now did it? The trailer is a loud and dumb just like every other big action movie. I also don't think the new movie earned it. The tone of the trailer is so off compared to the original movies. Is it logical to assume the trailer is not representative of the movie? To me it's not. I see this trailer I see a movie on the same level as Edge of Tomorrow, great scifi flick but not the life changing event people are making it out to me

If you're asking me to infer from the trailer whether or not Episode 7 will earn a place with Episodes 4 and 5, then I guess my answer would be "maybe?" I haven't seen the final film, and while the trailer may or may not turn out to be fairly representative, I certainly wouldn't shit up a feel-good thread with a premature dose of vitriol based off of a shaky-at-best assumption.
 
A long long time ago, on a page way back when I reworded my argument to fit to what I was trying to say. I'll say it again for you. This movie will be as cultural relevant as a new Iphone. Do you understand what I mean?

Are you seriously arguing that Iphones are not culturally significant? I think that's probably one of the most culturally significant technological devices in the last 20 years, Star Wars doesn't even hold a candle to them. It kicked off the smartphone craze which has become an entirely new and inseparable aspect of our modern lives. Iphones and Star Wars are institutions, they represent much more than just whatever the new movie or device is.

This is an extremely reductive image, but I think it exemplifies the point I'm making.

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You are indeed moving goalposts. We are not talking about the ultimate quality of the film.

The prequels are shitty movies that people still fiercely debate to this day. Even they were huge culture-shaking events, and even they are not in any way forgotten. Shouldn't that be the clue you need that Star Wars releases cannot be anything but culturally relevant?

So big companies can just make anything a cultural event now? I'm saying right now clear cut the only reason people will talk about Star Wars is because Disney will beat 1 out every 2 years till people stop going to see them. This as much as a cultural event as an iPhone or Transformers movie. Its all marking buzz with nothing but a hyper polished dumb but well made action movie at it's core. You wanna sit here and play word games going back and fourth to define what cultural even means then i'm out. Cultural event like when coke put peoples names on a coke can or when McDonalds started all day breakfast.

The trailer? It's fucking dumb. Outside of the acting of 2 actors it would be total shit. Ford looks like he rater be anywhere else but on set. Pretentious dialog, over use of CGI, and I can already see all the big dumb action set pieces, long drawl out light saber duels that mean nothing! The best fight in star wars so far is when some 100 year old dude fought some guy that couldn't see out his mask. This is soulless marking fucking the corpse of stars for every thing it's worth.

Are you seriously arguing that Iphones are not culturally significant? I think that's probably one of the most culturally significant technological devices in the last 20 years. It kicked off the smartphone craze which has become an entirely new and inseparable aspect of our modern lives. Iphones and Star Wars are institutions, they represent much more than just whatever the new movie or device is.

This is an extremely reductive image, but I think it exemplifies the point I'm making.

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Quality does not equal quality, i'm saying this "cultural event" is meaningless and worthless as a 2 year old iPhone with a busted screen
 
So to be fair, I decided to rewatch the Revenge of the Sith trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPd4qLUjWxU

Please tell me you can see the difference in pacing in the trailer, framing, lighting, quality of backgrounds, speed of the camera tracking the action, and general coherence to the trailer itself.

This trailer is vastly better.

To be fair....I kinda feel like it's a little unfair to compare a trailer from 05 to 15.

The "science" behind them has changed a lot in 10 years.
 
The trailer? It's fucking dumb. Outside of the acting of 2 actors it would be total shit. Ford looks like he rater be anywhere else but on set. Pretentious dialog, over use of CGI, and I can already see all the big dumb action set pieces, long drawl out light saber duels that mean nothing! The best fight in star wars so far is when some 100 year old dude fought some guy that couldn't see out his mask. This is soulless marking fucking the corpse of stars for every thing it's worth.

Jesus christ.
 
You know I gotta say, however any of us feel about this new trailer...we've come a damn long way from the old trailers. Goddamn.

Damn that ROTJ was sucky but in context it makes sense...
Apparently upon release Empire was too grim and so ROTJ was branded as a return to the more "fun" and adventurous side of Star Wars...
Tons of spoilers though...

The Empire trailer on the other hand is not bad... doesn't give anything away which is good. It is just a bit too long and not cut particularly well.
 
You are indeed moving goalposts. We are not talking about the ultimate quality of the film.

The prequels are shitty movies that people still fiercely debate to this day. Even they were huge culture-shaking events, and even they are not in any way forgotten. Shouldn't that be the clue you need that Star Wars releases cannot be anything but culturally relevant? Not even the prequels could diminish that essential quality of mass cultural importance.

Why bother with him mate.

Sit back, and enjoy the trailer again.
 
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