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Star Wars: The Force Awakens Final Trailer

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Here's why it really hits me emotionally:

1) Han Solo as a believer. His whole attitude in the trailer is so broke down and devastated. It's absolutely heartbreaking.

2) Finn's look of terror facing down Kylo Ren. This, to me, is the keystone of what makes Star Wars, pretty much any great adventure, so resonant. One charac, facing down their biggest fear manifest, and continuing to stand and face it.

That shit, man. It completely wrecks me. We can do it, as a people and a species. It just straight up gives me hope.
EXACTLY!!!

Those two moments, specially Finn at the end of the trailer, his expression of sheer terror while moments before Han said "theyre real" is just too much and makes me emotionally vulnerable for some reason lol, is incredible how a movie trailer has this impact in some of us.
 
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So I was iffy about seeing this in Theatres but after seeing this trailer and Vader, I am officially on the train. I'm 23 and I remember seeing Episode 1 in theatres so I have a horrible mark on my resume 😢 but this will make up for it.
 
What if Luke is the new Obi Wan that's the new Yoda but also the original Obi-Wan, while Kylo Ren is more like the previous Darth Vader, or Darth Maul, but also being kinda like the new Boba Fett? Also maybe Finn is also the new Han, but also the old Han, because Han still exists, but maybe a bit more like Annakin from the Prequel, but also like Luke.
 
3 years is "incredibly long"? The vast majority of the planets in the Clone Wars would never have had a single Jedi set foot on them, or if there was a Jedi it would have been one Jedi general and a padawan. And even then the Jedi general would have mostly worked with their Clonetroopers and military/government officials, they wouldn't have been interacting with the common person.

Most planets weren't Geonosis, which got genocided after the Death Star was completed anyway.
IDK man Mustafar and Uatapu were also battlegrounds that saw Jedi fight all over their planets surface and never got genocided. IF that kind of thing was a daily occurrence with multiple planets for years and years probably more than quite a few planets in the galaxy saw or probably just simply heard a news story about Jedi on their planet.
 
Guys seriously, there is like quadrillions of people in the galaxy spread across millions of planets at different levels of exposure and tech and sophistication. How is it remotely surprising that the Jedi aren't known everywhere? It especially makes sense that Finn would think them a myth though, obviously the remenants of the Empire would want to keep that shit on lock down.
 
Going back thru the trailers I'm really loving how long Abrams is holding some of these wide shots, really gives you time to take in all the details.
 
Do you think Mace Windu somehow survives the prequels? Disney has a pretty good relationship with Samuel L Jackson anyways. My boy Finn can be a descendant, and would describe why he might be aight from day one with a lightsaber.
 
super late to the party but is there a case to be made about Luke being the main antagonist, this is the final trailer and still no signs of Luke

They show Luke reaching for R2D2. Or at least a mechanical hand that you should assume is his.

I like the trailer for the fact we don't really know what the story is about but it doesn't seem amazing. The bad guy motive is that he is going to finish what Darth Vader started. So he is going to finish Vader's work as a traitor and bring down the empire? Unless the bad guy squad is all force users its pretty silly to have a physical sword fighter and fist fighter since a few rebels with blaster would kill them easily. The fact they keep going back to Tatooine is really annoying to me.
 
They show Luke reaching for R2D2. Or at least a mechanical hand that you should assume is his.

I like the trailer for the fact we don't really know what the story is about but it doesn't seem amazing. The bad guy motive is that he is going to finish what Darth Vader started. So he is going to finish Vader's work as a traitor and bring down the empire? Unless the bad guy squad is all force users its pretty silly to have a physical sword fighter and fist fighter since a few rebels with blaster would kill them easily. The fact they keep going back to Tatooine is really annoying to me.
No one knows that Vader redeemed himself expect for Luke. So finishing what he started likely means tracking down and killing Jedi

And that's not Tatoonie
 
Did they erase everyone's minds that encountered, saw, was saved by, or knew a Jedi?

Well, its not really that hard believably justify this. The Force Awakens begins roughly 50 years after the jedi order fell and the empire took over. Im not sure exactly how long "regular" life spans are in the star wars universe, but 50 years is still plenty of time to conduct a purge of undesired narratives and to rewrite history. I can imagine that the few people who were in some way exposed to they jedi order werent exactly keen on speaking up and challenging the "official" stance of the empire. Couple that with the fact that the jedi order was a pretty reclusive, low key organization even when it did exist, and I dont find it at all hard to believe that young people such as Rey and Finn are doubtful about the truth of these stories.
 
Anyone think that Poe might get the Hawkeye treatment where he will be mind controlled for the majority of the movie by Kylo Ren. I think that's why Finn looks kinda stunned when he saw Poe again getting off from the X-Wng when Finn was probably the one that captured Poe and escorted him at the First Order base. I'm really starting to think that Poe might a mind controlled spy for the First Order for the majority of the film.
 
For anyone who keeps thinking that Mark Hamill is under Kylo Ren's mask, we have seen pictures and footage of Kylo Ren unmasked and it's Adam Driver.

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By the way Ren might not know that Vader redeemed himself, but he apparently tracked down his corpse and retrieved his helmet from the moon of Endor, so he knows that Vader didn't die on the Death Star II.
 
Or killing/converting Luke? That was Vader's last mission.

Going to spoiler tag. These are not actual spoilers, just my thoughts:

I have a feeling Kylo has no idea who Luke even is, and that the Jedi exist at all.

I also don't think Kylo Ren is a "Sith" either, as his lightsaber is clearly not constructed the way it should be. I think he has Force abilities, and uses the Dark Side of the Force, but never had proper training in the ways of the Sith. Vader's main role was to be the Emperor's "enforcer", and Ren I think idolizes Vader in that fashion, to be the same as him.
 
Anyone think that Poe might get the Hawkeye treatment where he will be mind controlled for the majority of the movie by Kylo Ren. I think that's why Finn looks kinda stunned when he saw Poe again getting off from the X-Wng when Finn was probably the one that captured Poe and escorted him at the First Order base. I'm really starting to think that Poe might a mind controlled spy for the First Order for the majority of the film.

Nope. Poe has a huge role in the movie. The scene you are referring to happens
near the beginning of the movie, before Poe escapes with Finn.
 
No one knows that Vader redeemed himself expect [sic] for Luke. So finishing what he started likely means tracking down and killing Jedi

And that's not Tatoonie

Wait, how do we know that? Luke didn't tell anyone how Palapatine died? Where is that established, Aftermath or something? And why on earth wouldn't he? Did he make up some cover story? Why?
 
Isn't this a debate for 2005? Who cares about the shitty writing in the preqels. This movie is a sequel to the OT. Luke didn't know about Jedi either.
It's too late now, if the EU isn't canon and the shitty prequels still kinda are you're just going to have to live with this unfortunate inconsistency the trailer is presenting instead of sweeping it under the rug.
 
Slavery and Genocide just makes you dead or disappear, not forget the past.

Also I thought Palps profound effect on the force was simply just a weird version of Battle Meditation and ability to hide his presence.

Even masking his presence is a pretty big effect, but even then some Jedi were able to feel this. Which makes me think the effect on non--Jedi would be more significant. He didn't erase memories, just clouded them.

Also when you can wipe out an entire planet like Alderaan, that's a pretty big chunk of history lost.

Logically, the problem is trying to fit this sequence of events with in 2 peoples life span, Anakin and Luke. Its a hole, sure, but I don't think it can't be filled with a little imagination. Besides I always had a problem with the tech starting out new and shiny then, in 16 years, it gets old and busted. The contrast was always a bit jarring to me.
 
They show Luke reaching for R2D2. Or at least a mechanical hand that you should assume is his.

I like the trailer for the fact we don't really know what the story is about but it doesn't seem amazing. The bad guy motive is that he is going to finish what Darth Vader started. So he is going to finish Vader's work as a traitor and bring down the empire? Unless the bad guy squad is all force users its pretty silly to have a physical sword fighter and fist fighter since a few rebels with blaster would kill them easily. The fact they keep going back to Tatooine is really annoying to me.

Mace Windu lost the same hand :3
 
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