U.S. citizen seeks refugee status in Canada due to fear of police racism

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A U.S. citizen has argued before Canada's Immigration and Refugee Board in Vancouver that he should be granted refugee status over fears that he will be killed in his home country by police because he is black.
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"I'm in fear of my life because I'm black," he told IRB member Ron Yamauchi in a hearing on October 23rd in Vancouver. "This is a well-founded fear."
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/black-u-s-citizen-kyle-lydell-canty-seeks-refugee-status-in-canada-1.3286707
 
Canty admits that he has several outstanding charges in multiple states for things including jaywalking, issuing threats, disorderly conduct and resisting arrest but says he has no intention of returning to his home country to face those charges.
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well, this needs to be pointed out I guess
 
He needs to get out of the USA fast. Dude's been lucky to survive so far, pretty sure all four of those outstanding charges would be found on the ___ While Black list.
 
Would love to see more of this happening, just to show the US that this is actually a huge problem

Really hoping he gets in. He seems well grounded and intelligent
 
He described another video submitted to the IRB that shows a police car driving past him and then stopping.

Two officers emerge. Canty asks them why they are stopping. The officers reply they believed he was flagging them. When Canty says no, they depart without incident.
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Sounds dangerous.
 
*Splinter said:
I didn't think it was that hard for US citizens to move to Canada, is this just a demonstration type thing?
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andythinkpad said:
Isn't it pretty easy for US/CAN citizens to work in each other's country? Somebody live on the border clue me in.
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Just moving to Canada wouldn't stop the US from coercing Canada to deporting him back to the US to face charges (as silly as that sounds).

Applying as a refugee is the equivalent of political asylum. He wants Canada to protect him, not just accept him.
 
Although I'm obviously against racial profiling, this just seems like a grab for attention. The media has been making police officers into looking like monsters, and sure there are bad apples that need to be exposed, but this is only a story because of the extreme narrative of the media.

I don't even see how this is a story, he's not fleeing from political persecution, he's fleeing out a false mistrust of the police. I hope he reconsiders his decision.
 
darthvargi said:
Although I'm obviously against racial profiling, this just seems like a grab for attention. The media has been making police officers into looking like monsters, and sure there are bad apples that need to be exposed, but this is only a story because of the extreme narrative of the media.

I don't even see how this is a story, he's not fleeing from political persecution, he's fleeing out a false mistrust of the police. I hope he reconsiders his decision.
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Why wouldn't it be a grab for attention? The more attention you get the better your chances.

And for anyone who wants to actually read the article, it looks like he actually submitted a pretty substantial case to the IRB.

This isn't some black guy walking over the border then yelling "FUCK THE POLICE I AIN'T GOING BACK", he's thought this through, built a case for himself, and genuinely believes his life is in danger staying in the US.

Not like I think his life will be all that much better if he succeeds. Racial profiling exists just as much up here as it does down there, we just have less guns involved.
 
I can understand why he's making the decision to do this, but I wouldn't. Feel like it's just saying "yes, I give up and will leave your country alone." Again, I understand, he wants to live and not feel like his life is constantly in danger, but living in an area where my life is technically constantly in danger, I don't feel like it's something I'd ever do and would feel like shit if I did do it.
 
darthvargi said:
Although I'm obviously against racial profiling, this just seems like a grab for attention. The media has been making police officers into looking like monsters, and sure there are bad apples that need to be exposed, but this is only a story because of the extreme narrative of the media.

I don't even see how this is a story, he's not fleeing from political persecution, he's fleeing out a false mistrust of the police. I hope he reconsiders his decision.
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Police officers make police officers look like monsters
 
Too bad the result is just going to be one side saying "see how bad it is??" And the other side saying "good, one less n****r in the country!"
 
Ahem, joking aside, I wonder what kind of conservative hacks are on the irb and how soon will the liberals change them.

There are a lot of political appointments that the liberals are going to need to look after to put this country back on track.
 
oneils said:
Ahem, joking aside, I wonder what kind of conservative hacks are on the irb and how soon will the liberals change them.

There are a lot of political appointments that the liberals are going to need to look after to put this country back on track.
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You guys gave refuge to a woman who had sex with a 16 year old and was going to get 30 years and get marked as a sex offender. I don't think you have any conservatives on the IRB that wouldn't take this guy as, while I think both reasons are a little much, at least this guy didn't actually commit a crime while that woman did.
 
tkscz said:
You guys gave refuge to a woman who had sex with a 16 year old and was going to get 30 years and get marked as a sex offender. I don't think you have any conservatives on the IRB that wouldn't take this guy as, while I think both reasons are a little much, at least this guy didn't actually commit a crime while that woman did.
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Actually you could argue this guy has "less" of a chance since the "crimes" he's commited are still crimes in Canada, while her crime wasn't actually a crime in Canada.
 
tkscz said:
You guys gave refuge to a woman who had sex with a 16 year old and was going to get 30 years and get marked as a sex offender. I don't think you have any conservatives on the IRB that wouldn't take this guy as, while I think both reasons are a little much, at least this guy didn't actually commit a crime while that woman did.
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That might not be a crime in Canada. I'd have to check the age of consent laws in Canada to be sure.

Edit: looks like age of consent is now 16, up from 14. So I can see the logic of the irb granting asylum.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/canada-s-age-of-consent-raised-by-2-years-1.754941
 
He most likely get it unless the conditions are stricter than what I'm initially reading. The only nagging point is that I feel he would have an easier time arguing for this country creating systems to disenfranchise non-whites in spite of AA related initiatives. For example the chances to die from a cop as opposed to get fucked out of middle class into poverty is much lower. The chances of facing harsher discipline is higher than outright getting murdered as well.
 
darthvargi said:
Although I'm obviously against racial profiling, this just seems like a grab for attention. The media has been making police officers into looking like monsters, and sure there are bad apples that need to be exposed, but this is only a story because of the extreme narrative of the media.

I don't even see how this is a story, he's not fleeing from political persecution, he's fleeing out a false mistrust of the police. I hope he reconsiders his decision.
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Are you also against murder?

dan2026 said:
I still cant believe jaywalking is even a crime in America.
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I imagine it's generally used as an excuse to arrest for another, un-arrestable crime. Like contempt of cop, or walking while black.
 
darthvargi said:
Although I'm obviously against racial profiling, this just seems like a grab for attention. The media has been making police officers into looking like monsters, and sure there are bad apples that need to be exposed, but this is only a story because of the extreme narrative of the media.

I don't even see how this is a story, he's not fleeing from political persecution, he's fleeing out a false mistrust of the police. I hope he reconsiders his decision.
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Clearly you come from an alternate reality..the media hasn't shaped the minds of those who have been abused. The abusers did that..
 
8 million blacks in the US and roughly 1000 deaths by police in 2014 (all races). He ha about a 1/10000 chance ignoring all obvious behavior factors.

About the same odds of being stuck by lightning in a lifetime
 
jchap said:
8 million blacks and roughly 1000 deaths by police in 2014 (all races). He ha about a 1/10000 chance ignoring all obvious behavior factors.

About the same odds of being stuck by lightning in a lifetime
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Do the same math with white people and police. Blacks probably have a much higher chance dying at the hands of police than white people. Then do the same thing with use of force. Then do the same thing with arrests. Then do the same thing with detentions.

I think you would start to understand why black people are not so trusting of police.
 
darthvargi said:
Although I'm obviously against racial profiling, this just seems like a grab for attention. The media has been making police officers into looking like monsters, and sure there are bad apples that need to be exposed, but this is only a story because of the extreme narrative of the media.

I don't even see how this is a story, he's not fleeing from political persecution, he's fleeing out a false mistrust of the police. I hope he reconsiders his decision.
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If only you had a black friend, I could've got a one-post bingo.
 
tkscz said:
You guys gave refuge to a woman who had sex with a 16 year old and was going to get 30 years and get marked as a sex offender. I don't think you have any conservatives on the IRB that wouldn't take this guy as, while I think both reasons are a little much, at least this guy didn't actually commit a crime while that woman did.
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I'm glad we took her in.

She may have deserved punishment for her behavior, but I consider 30 years unusually cruel for her actions. She did not deserve to have her life completely taken away from her.
 
Can I seek refugee status in Canada from the UK treating sick/disabled people so badly they kill themselves?

Back to the OP I don't blame him tbh.
 
oneils said:
Do the same math with white people and police. Blacks probably have a much higher chance dying at the hands of police than white people. Then do the same thing with use of force. Then do the same thing with arrests. Then do the same thing with detentions.

I think you would start to understand why black people are not so trusting of police.
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No I understand the chance is much higher for blacks than other races. It is still a minuscule chance though and a bit silly to use as an asylum argument.
 
I blame him. The chance he would be killed by a police officer is absolutely minuscule. He's doing this to avoid charges.
 
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