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[The 8-Bit Raider]

Knee jerk reactions abound here. I'll reserve my judgement till after the game releases and even then I'll probably still buy since Bethesda has a solid record for delivering the type of games we expect and appreciate from them.

That being said, the screenshots are indeed ugly for a current gen system but same could be siad for Fallout 3 last gen.

Would I have liked Fallout 4 to have cutting edge graphics? Certainly but my expectations regarding the graphics of Bethesda's past games (with very few exceptions) was low to begin with. As long as it delivers in the gameplay front, I would say it looks just fine, a definite upgrade from Fallout 3.

At the end of the day, all this bitching, wining, and complaining means nothing...we're still going to buy this game.

 

[hamchan]

Correct me if I'm wrong but are all the people bitching in this thread going to turn the game on and stare at shadows or lack-there-of all day? Or are you, like, you know... going to play the game?

Just curious. Because I honestly can't fucking tell anymore.

Christ people, it's a goddamn screenshot thread, of course people are going to talk about the graphics. So why the hell do we have posts like this?

 

[Tubie]

I still remember how many bugs and issues Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim and Fallout 3 had.

If this game is bug free that's all I need.

 

[Justice_Bolt]

I have to agree it doesn't looks that good but man we are all going to play Fallout 4 soon guys. Hype!

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

This is Bethesda open world guys, you can't compare it to anything else.

These games have never been about graphics tho, so I don't get the outrage :/

So because of that people can't hope for improvement? Especially on a big selling franchise such as fallout? I expect tales of games to not have big graphical improvements(ooo but i wish they did)

 

[glassgannon]

Is there a video link for this?

youtube fallout 4 gameplay. theres literally only piece of collective footage.

 

[DeaviL]

Biggest problems seem to be view distance and lack of AO aka not a problem on PC.
I'm good to go.

 

[RichiRamjag]

Knee jerk reactions abound here. I'll reserve my judgement till after the game releases and even then I'll probably still buy since Bethesda has a solid record for delivering the type of games we expect and appreciate from them.

That being said, the screenshots are indeed ugly for a current gen system but same could be siad for Fallout 3 last gen.

Would I have liked Fallout 4 to have cutting edge graphics? Certainly but my expectations regarding the graphics of Bethesda's past games (with very few exceptions) was low to begin with. As long as it delivers in the gameplay front, I would say it looks just fine, a definite upgrade from Fallout 3.

At the end of the day, all this bitching, wining, and complaining means nothing...we're still going to buy this game.

That's great. Keep those expectations low and they'll be sure to keep meeting them.

 

[Durante]

Something about it kind of reminds me of the Half Life 2 Episode 2 era Source Engine.

I can see that, actually. It's obviously more advanced, but in some ways (geometric detail, almost pre-AO on longer range) it gives a similar impression.

 

[DeepEnigma]

But do you actually see PS4 button pprompts on PC too? Who even claimed that these are PS4 shots?

There were a few games last-gen that when you plugged in the DS, and selected that under options (when programmed by the developer), it would use the prompts, or maybe that was the 360 controller.

Memory is fuzzy.

im not outraged at all

Im an legitimately excited about Fallout 4 regardless

Doenst mean the graphics discussion isnt compelling

I know who you are really talking to though

Pretty much how I feel. I am hoping this translates into a silky smooth experience. Otherwise, that is really sad.

 

[DrROBschiz]

This is Bethesda open world guys, you can't compare it to anything else.

These games have never been about graphics tho, so I don't get the outrage :/

im not outraged at all

Im an legitimately excited about Fallout 4 regardless

Doenst mean the graphics discussion isnt compelling

I know who you are really talking to though

 

[Beelzebufo]

Christ people, it's a goddamn screenshot thread, of course people are going to talk about the graphics. So why the hell do we have posts like this?

Obviously we're supposed to speculate on lore.

Did anyone notice that some of the areas look much more destroyed and run down than others? I wonder if maybe a bomb goes off in between some of these scenes- could explain the "Fallout" name.

 

[blame space]

And what are you? Their PR rep. It doesn't look good to me, if it were only the base, then I wouldn't have anything to complain about. The textures aren't nice and shadows are missing. I don't care for that, sorry if it hurts your feelings. I don't feel this is nitpicking, I am the last person to nitpick graphics. I even thought the first few people dogging the graphics were crazy, I checked the images on my PC and it looked bad. Sorry.

If your feelings are going to get hurt over comments about screenshots in a screenshot thread, then I don't know what to tell you.

My feelings aren't hurt, I just think it's unfair and frankly kind of disappointing to see people equate "I don't think this looks good" and "these developers are lazy and their work is shoddy." Based on a few still pictures of the game, at least.

 

[gai_shain]

lol @ people freaking out over the graphics...

If graphics is what you are looking for, fallout isnt for you


Will be fixed down the road with Mod support that console now has

so you think the console mods are going to be graphical mods?

 

[The 8-Bit Raider]

That's great. Keep those expectations low and they'll be sure to keep meeting them.

The secret to a fulfilling life

 

[Lakitu]

Hopefully this is the official graphics bitching thread. This shit better not be in the ot.

 

[JaseC]

compressed jpegs are worthless.

lol at Durante and his usual bullshit. its getting old. grow up.

I'd wager there are moments in every "fanboy's" life whey they say something that instantly instills a moment of self-reflection, where they wonder if the money they've spent on their preferred platform is worth the emotional distress of feeling insulted because somebody said bad words about their "investment".

This, for you, ought to be one of those moments.

 

[Tatsumi Oga]

There were a few games last-gen that when you plugged in the DS, and selected that under options (when programmed by the developer), it would use the prompts, or maybe that was the 360 controller.

Memory is fuzzy.

Hmm well it sure would be nice if these turn out to be PC shots with lower settings but I find that very unlikely sadly. Why would a reviewer even do such a thing? Plus they are all saying PS4 now, it probably is. Definitely not the end of the world and if the lighting is still there, I am going to be happy.

 

[RK9039]

so you think the console mods are going to be graphical mods?

Dat 5fps experience, PS3 Skyrim all over again.

 

[Wasp]

My guess is this started off as a last-gen only game, then switched to be a cross-gen game before finally becoming a current-gen only game.

 

[Alebrije]

I still remember how many bugs and issues Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim and Fallout 3 had.

If this game is bug free that's all I need.

This is a Bethy game, bugs are part of the gameplay , also illogical things :

 

[Ricerocket]

lol @ people freaking out over the graphics...

If graphics is what you are looking for, fallout isnt for you


Will be fixed down the road with Mod support that console now has

No one is "freaking out." It's more like console players will be disappointed that it has to come to this for that scenery view of a game where you want to get immersed in. Come on, no shadows makes all the distant object feel disconnected from the world.

Also it won't be fixed down the road with mods. I don't think graphical mods will be approved for consoles that can affect framerate. It will be extremely limited.

 

[The 8-Bit Raider]

so you think the console mods are going to be graphical mods?

I highly doubt that.

 

[Tagg9]

Completely inexcusable from Bethesda given the relative power of PS4/XB1 compared to the prior generation.

Obviously they are ambitious and the game's scope is large when it's put beside just about any other open world game, but this is not an excuse for the lack of graphical fidelity. I'm not saying I expect the game to look like a first party exclusive, but I'm having a hard time thinking of a AAA title on the next gen consoles that looks worse than this.

I really wish Bethesda would move on from their Creation Engine and license Unreal or something.

 

[derwalde]

Next gen starts when bethesda says so.

 

[legacyzero]

This is a Bethy game, bugs are part of the gameplay , also illogical things :

LMFAO. Fucking love these games.

 

[DrROBschiz]

My feelings aren't hurt, I just think it's unfair and frankly kind of disappointing to see people equate "I don't think this looks good" and "these developers are lazy and their work is shoddy." Based on a few still pictures of the game, at least.

Yeah thats really shitty

These are huge complicated games. The results we are seeing now arent a product of laziness but of deliberate design decisions made a long time ago

Keep on the topic of discussion here

 

[Tubie]

Hopefully this is the official graphics bitching thread. This shit better not be in the ot.

All I know is OT will be full of insane/funny GIFs lol.

 

[ISee]

Is there a video link for this?

Of course. Gameplay exploration Trailer. Starts at around the 4 minutes mark, but it's worth to watch the full trailer. But keep in mind the trailer is most probably (like 99%) from the PC version.

 

[DeepEnigma]

so you think the console mods are going to be graphical mods?

I do not see this happening, unless Bethesda does that themselves, which I do not see happening unless it was free.

Hmm well it sure would be nice if these turn out to be PC shots with lower settings but I find that very unlikely sadly. Why would a reviewer even do such a thing? Plus they are all saying PS4 now, it probably is. Definitely not the end of the world and if the lighting is still there, I am going to be happy.

I did not read where the source came from, just seen the shots in the thread, with wishful thinking on my part.

 

[RichiRamjag]

My feelings aren't hurt, I just think it's unfair and frankly kind of disappointing to see people equate "I don't think this looks good" and "these developers are lazy and their work is shoddy."

I hear ya, but I am not happy at all with what I saw. It looked shoddy to me. I meant that moreso than to insult the devs. Misworded I guess.

 

[CambriaRising]

Hopefully this is the official graphics bitching thread. This shit better not be in the ot.

I, too, hope the OT is filled with nothing but doting praise and absolutely no sense of disappointment from these filthy cretins as this is a perfect masterpiece with no equal.

Spoiler

Also gameplay > graphics and Durante is a jerk and poohead.

 

[Felix Lighter]

I will never understand why people are bothered by graphic discussions in a thread that are entirely based on screenshots.

 

[Satch]

If this game is bug free that's all I need.

 

[Kneecap]

I dunno. I just don't get it. Bethesda's games (and the first two Bioshocks) are games of all time for me. It's the game play, the resource and other decisions that make those great for me. Not the hand eye coordination twitch skills or IQ they or any other game has. These games absorb me, make me think.

Even though IQ has not been the focus of these kind of games, there nevertheless has been a continuous and marked increase in the graphical quality. As long as the graphics of these games provide a platform for the suspension of my disbelief, I'm good to go. But really, the Bethesda games in particular almost always more than meet this need of mine.

I get that we're a diverse bunch here and that some of you appear to value IQ over most all else, but the level of scorn some of you have for the graphics I see in FO4 just does not match the reality of what these Bethesda games do. It's a bit like critizing the representations in a Salvador Dali painting because they don't look much like their real world counterparts.

 

[Tubie]

My guess is this started off as a last-gen only game, then switched to be a cross-gen game before finally becoming a current-gen only game.

This might actually be true, they do take a long time to make their games.

 

[RPGam3r]

marketing the game with actual screenshots and gameplay after e3 would be a start

going by the defence in this thread they have nothing to be scared of,itll sell like hotcakes,
so we should definitely be okay with the game's state. because itll sell. who cares if its buggy or looks bad. selling copies makes it so much better.

Thing is I don't think it looks bad, so I'll be part of the sales. If so many of you don't like it cause it looks "bad", "terrible", or like "shit" than don't buy it.

If graphics were that bad or that important it would suffer, but it won't.

 

[Fury451]

I don't think that gif is doing the argument any favors really. A character instantly being replaced by a bunch of gib models in the same primitive way it has been done since 90's polygon graphics. I don't expect Mortal Kombat X level fidelity gore in a game of this scale, but this looks significantly worse than the gore animations in Fallout 1 and 2 and that's one of the things I miss the most in the 3D iterations.

Wat.

I will never understand why people are bothered by graphic discussions in a thread that are entirely based on screenshots.

The hyperbole being used is comically absurd.

 

[sappyday]

My guess is this started off as a last-gen only game, then switched to be a cross-gen game before finally becoming a current-gen only game.

Still no excuse. FFXV was also a last gen and that game looks beautiful now.

 

[IonicSnake]

Looks alright for a Bethesda game but I'm glad I went with the PC version.

 

[KJRS_1993]

I honestly do not understand the widespread dislike, I think it looks pretty good. Not the most mind blowing of all time or anything like that, but I don't see how they can be considered "bad".

 

[Reebot]

Looks really bad. I don't know if its poor technical issues or poor art direction. I do know that I don't want to keep looking at those pics.

 

[Tagg9]

My feelings aren't hurt, I just think it's unfair and frankly kind of disappointing to see people equate "I don't think this looks good" and "these developers are lazy and their work is shoddy." Based on a few still pictures of the game, at least.

No one is saying that the developers are lazy (and if they are, then they are idiots). But it's pretty clear that the game needed either A) more time in the oven; or B) a larger budget alongside higher graphical expectations set by the publisher.

 

[Lakitu]

I, too, hope the OT is filled with nothing but doting praise and absolutely no sense of disappointment from these filthy cretins as this is a perfect masterpiece with no equal.

Spoiler

Also gameplay > graphics and Durante is a jerk and poohead.

You can be objective and critical about something, that's not a problem to me. But just look at this thread, it's horrid. I'd steer clear of the OT if it was anything like it.

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

I dunno. I just don't get it. Bethesda's games (and the first two Bioshocks) are games of all time for me. It's the game play, the resource and other decisions that make those great for me. Not the hand eye coordination twitch skills or IQ they or any other game has. These games absorb me, make me think.

Even though IQ has not been the focus of these kind of games, there nevertheless has been a continuous and marked increase in the graphical quality. As long as the graphics of these games provide a platform for the suspension of my disbelief, I'm good to go. But really, the Bethesda games in particular almost always more than meet this need of mine.

I get that we're a diverse bunch here and that some of you appear to value IQ over most all else, but the level of scorn some of you have for the graphics I see in FO4 just does not match the reality of what these Bethesda games do. It's a bit like critizing the representations in a Salvador Dali painting because they don't look much like their real world counterparts.

Its a screenshot thread!!! Holy mother of..sigh

 

[Peff]

But do you actually see PS4 button pprompts on PC too? Who even claimed that these are PS4 shots?

 

[benny_a]

No one is saying that the developers are lazy (and if they are, then they are idiots). But it's pretty clear that the game needed either A) more time in the oven; or B) a larger budget alongside higher graphical expectations set by the publisher.

We can come back to this post in 6 months and then look at the sales figures and then we know whether or not they needed that.

 

[diamount]

No one is saying that the developers are lazy (and if they are, then they are idiots). But it's pretty clear that the game needed either A) more time in the oven; or B) a larger budget alongside higher graphical expectations set by the publisher.

Eh, Bethesda are beholden to nobody but themselves. Maybe we'll see an improvement on their next title if this get's mentioned in the reviews.

 

[DrROBschiz]

Still no excuse. FFXV was also a last gen and that game looks beautiful now.

Dude

I dont think Bethesda could afford to make the mistakes they have made to get to that point

It does look good though

 

[ProfessorMoran]

And yet one of the best games on the PS4. Graphics don't make a game.

See, The Order for evidence.

This game isn't ugly but Bethesda should be able to do better.

A game doesn't have to be ugly to be good, and not all pretty games are trash like the order, it's not too much to ask for both.

No fucking excuses.