Fallout 4 - Reviews thread

Scrawnton said:
I love how GAF has an agenda for this game to fail and most will disregard the great scores this game is getting.
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I don't have an agenda or want to see it fail, I just want Bethesda to have a reason to fix the same issues that have plagued their games for years now. I really like what they do in theory, and I LOVED Morrowind more than anything else at the time, but their games have awful writing, acting, and tech.

I know that the pros can outweigh these things but after all this time I wish that reviewers would be a little more harsh on them to improve these aspects of the game instead of saying "it's PERFECT (well.... except fot the main quest, acting, graphics, framerate and load times)"
 
Dennis said:
U mad, bro?
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Don't do it Dennis...

Too many bees in that hive.
 
Wtf, not that I respect Gies as a journalist but he straight up mentions how bad the technical stuff is and still gives it a 9.5
 
R&R said:
And pretty much NONE of the reviewers noted this! WTF is this bullshit...! No, lets just give it a 9 and be done with it...
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Ya I discussed it in my review on ACG for a bit. I rated the game a buy but with large technical caveats.
Gameplay and funfactor beat out the issues I personally had, but I wasn't impressed whatsoever with the console versions and the PC version needs some optimization in regards to framerate and an issue loading in new enemy scripts when battles grow larger.

I also covered the new dialogue system which I think adds a good deal of personality to the game. Thats aside from the voice obviously.
 
I feel like there's no standard for review threads on gaf. I appreciate the ones with little snippets the most.
 
wanderjahr said:
Glitchfest huh with major fps issues? Yeah, I'll pass.

Bethesda needs to clean up their act. With open-world games like Witcher 3 out there raising the bar, there is no excuse for Bethesda to deliver F4 looking like and playing like poo.
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Yeah cause witcher 3 wasn't a stuttery mess at launch
 
Seriously, is anyone talking about the dialogue trees.

I can't be the only person who tries to be charismatic and shoot as little as possible.
 
Cloyster said:
First two reviews I checked, Jim's and Polygon's don't even mention the dialogue system. If I didn't know any better, I'd say game journalists have different priorities than I do!
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Yeah, I don't really expect it to come up in many reviews because it seems like many reviewers for more mainstream review sites simply equate "Voiced PC= GOOD! Non voiced= BAD!"

The PC Gamer review brings up the voiced PC and how the reviewer at least felt like it made the PC feel more "set" and less opportunities to be villainous.
 
CHC said:
I don't have an agenda or want to see it fail, I just find want Bethesda to have a reason to fix the same issues that have plagued their games for years now. I really like what they do in theory, and I LOVED Morrowind more than anything else at the time, but their games have awful writing, acting, and tech.

I know that the pros can outweigh these things but after all this time I wish that reviewers would be a little more harsh on them to improve these aspects of the game instead of saying "it's PERFECT (well.... except fot the main quest, acting, graphics, framerate and load times)"
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There's several sub 9 scores already. And a game scoring 9 is far from screaming perfect.

It's clear the game has flaws from this. But it's also clear that the game is great in spite of those flaws.
 
Jebusman said:
Why did anyone expect this to score any less than a 9/10 from major outlets? At all?

How many times have we been through this with every game in existance.

It doesn't matter how many flaws or what flaws you find, or complaints about regression in systems, buggy performance, etc, the hype train consumes all and 9/10s will be thrown about.

Then in 6-12 months from now we'll start nitpicking the shit out of the game and people will start questioning "Wait why did we think this game was amazing? It's still good but this is nowhere near perfect".

Again, and again, and again.

I'll play Fallout 4, but man, anyone expecting this game to get any less than 90s was in some dream world.
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How can we fix the review system though? It's absurd that we've seen so many 9+/10 in the past few weeks.

I want video games as a whole to be reviewed more objectively. Review games on innovation, compelling mechanics that push the industry forward, and unique narrative and design elements.
Go check out a movie or music review, this is the only form of media with reviews based on marketing budget, development budget, and then subjective measures, rather than degree the piece of media pushes the industry forward.
 
Anyone summarise the technical issues? Haven't got time.

Edit: It also appears that people have short-term memory. The Witcher 3 wasn't exactly smooth at launch but you guys never mention that..
 
Cloyster said:
Seriously, is anyone talking about the dialogue trees.

I can't be the only person who tries to be charismatic and shoot as little as possible.
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I'm sorry, you are in the wrong thread. This is for salt, accusations and bias. Away with your reasoned question.

I want to know too
 
Cloyster said:
Seriously, is anyone talking about the dialogue trees.

I can't be the only person who tries to be charismatic and shoot as little as possible.
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When I get the game, I hope to do a Walter White kind of playthrough first. High intelligence and Charisma. Being good at science and shit. :P
 
wanderjahr said:
Glitchfest huh with major fps issues? Yeah, I'll pass.

Bethesda needs to clean up their act. With open-world games like Witcher 3 out there raising the bar, there is no excuse for Bethesda to deliver F4 looking like and playing like poo.
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The argument you're presenting, while I'm not necessarily disagreeing Witcher 3 is not the game I'd use to support it.
 
And this is why Bethesda won't invest in a new engine despite having years between releases...because it does not affect them in any way.

It's not about just the graphics but the performance and instability.
 
Jibbajabbawockky said:
Yeah, I don't really expect it to come up in many reviews because it seems like many reviewers for more mainstream review sites simply equate "Voiced PC= GOOD! Non voiced= BAD!"
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It's annoying as hell. Personally, have many dialogue options without voice dialogue and more things to talk about and things to say is a plus, and taking that away is a huge negative. I would drop a Fallout game probably a whole point for something like that.

But I guess that's why I'm not a reviewer.
 
Auctopus said:
Wtf, not that I respect Gies as a journalist but he straight up mentions how bad the technical stuff is and still gives it a 9.5
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if the experience is worth 9.5 - what's the problem?

I've suffered bugs with Bethesda games before - doesn't make the games less than awesome in my eyes.
 
Sterling's review has a goddamn spelling error right there in the first paragraph, for god's sake. A bad, and easy to spot, typo.

I love the message he pushes to the industry, but I really do not rate the guy above amateur in terms of the quality of his output.

DukeBobby said:
Good scores so far.

It might end up with a similar Metacritic score to The Witcher 3, Bloodborne and MGS V.

GOTY discussions should be fun this year.
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'Time to be alive, amirite?
 
jfoul said:
Welp, looks like I'm buying it. Anybody know if the PC retail copy is Steam? I want to use my GCU at Best Buy.
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I know it has a steam code, but I've been hearing that the disk has only part of the game and the code is to download the rest. Not sure how it works since The Elder Scrolls Anthology had codes for the games and you didn't need the disks at all.
 
" Reviewers don't agree with the opinion I already formed about the game, they must be giving Bethesda a pass"

The same bullshit was flung around with MGSV.
 
Is it really that hard to believe that a game could be great in spite of its technical issues? I feel like some people just wait for the contrarian review to point at that one and say "See, this is the one that is accurate", when a multitude of reviews say the opposite.
 
Cloyster said:
It's annoying as hell. Personally, have many dialogue options without voice dialogue and more things to talk about and things to say is a plus, and taking that away is a huge negative. I would drop a Fallout game probably a whole point for something like that.

But I guess that's why I'm not a reviewer.
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Just wait for the RPG Codex review. ;)
 
Very unique type of salt in this thread.

Can can understand that all the shitting on the game in the past week not leading to bad reviews must be very disappointing for some...

Now lat´s all play this amazing game. Can´t wait for tomorrow.
 
Not unexpected in the slightest.The framerate issues are a shame as are the loading but not much different from anything else I played this year.

I'm curious if this has more quests than Fallout3/Skyrim. I saw Jim's quote, which also wasn't really unexpected, but even with a small number 2x what Fallout 3 had would be fine. Not that I really want to know the exact number ut a general vibe would be nice.
 
Ars Technica :

The good

Lots of content to grind through, if you're looking for a single game to kill a lot of time.
Major game locations offer payoffs in beautiful designs, memorable missions.
Plot includes some incredibly captivating highlights, buffered by massive, terminal-powered series of side story content.
Your new dog companion and a new power-armor system are welcome tweaks to the series' tried-and-true VATS-powered combat.

The bad

Missions and plot suffer from miserable pacing, lack of compelling NPCs, redundant battle locations.
Want to be a bad guy? Fallout 4 will let you, but it doesn't offer as many satisfying paths to the dark side as prior entries.
SPECIAL system of traits offers lots of options but is cramped by most missions clearly favoring strength over other attributes.
New crafting and settlement options offer lots of tedium with little plot or power payoff.

The ugly

This game. As in, this game looks U-G-L-Y, and it ain't got no alibi.


Verdict: Don't cancel your pre-order, but don't rush to buy Fallout 4 if you didn't place an order already either.
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http://arstechnica.co.uk/gaming/201...your-next-gen-expectations-at-the-vault-door/
 
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