constantstatic
Member
Awsome so I can safely set it to zero again and use nvidia control panel for vsync after I lock it to 30 with rivatuner. I set the ini back to default cuz I was worried about breaking the game.
Fallout 4 PC Performance Thread
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Awsome so I can safely set it to zero again and use nvidia control panel for vsync after I lock it to 30 with rivatuner. I set the ini back to default cuz I was worried about breaking the game.
paperspace
Member
Just to let people know: setting fDirectionalDeadzone to 0 in Fallout4.ini will break VATS if you're using a gamepad.
It's one of those tweaks from Skyrim some people like to throw around in some places.
It's one of those tweaks from Skyrim some people like to throw around in some places.
Smushroomed
Banned
what's your resolution
This was pretty much already kinda' known, but I did a test anyway. Shadow distance is indeed fucked. There's at least a 10fps difference between High and Medium even in enclosed areas in the city. FPS counter was all over the place (~50fps) in this little area on High. FPS counter was locked at 60fps on Medium.
This is at 1080p w/ TAA. Everything else on Ultra except for Godrays on Medium. Also, Shadow Quality on High, which I may be able to boost up to Ultra now.
Single 980ti SC+ stock
i7 3770 stock
16GB 1600mhz RAM
SSD
Comparison. Ignore the .jpg compression.
This is at 1080p w/ TAA. Everything else on Ultra except for Godrays on Medium. Also, Shadow Quality on High, which I may be able to boost up to Ultra now.
Single 980ti SC+ stock
i7 3770 stock
16GB 1600mhz RAM
SSD
Comparison. Ignore the .jpg compression.
The high value for Shadow Distance is 14000 in the ini file, where as medium is only 3000, so that explains the difference in performance I think. I tried it at medium but the shadows disappear too close for my liking so I raised it a little to 4500.
ichtyander
Member
I wonder if it isn't this night vision bug, the fix should be in this reddit post.
If that's not what you're experiencing, you can try to force different weather conditions in the console, mainly the "fw ID" command, where ID is a code from the table on that link.
DanWensing
Banned
No fix for 21:9 HUD yet????
Oh, nice. Where is this located, exactly?
KCroxtonJr
Member
Fallout4Prefs.ini located in your Documents\My Games\Fallout4 directory.
These two lines:
Code:
fDirShadowDistance=3000.0000
fShadowDistance=3000.0000edit: It should be noted that the higher you put the number, the more quality you begin to lose in the shadows. High shadow settings fixes this quality issue by increasing the shadow splits from 2 to 3 (which is the REAL fps killer).
This line for anybody who is curious:
Code:
iDirShadowSplits=2needless to say, dropping that to 1 causes a significant loss of shadow quality.
980 Ti/4770k here.
I can confirm that lowering shadow distance to Medium is the only way to fix the bottlenecks in those problem areas. I tried lowering every other setting, even Godrays, and it did nothing to improve the framerate. The FPS isn't the only that is dropping in those areas, mind you. The GPU usage also drops, and refuses to raise; I'll be getting 46 fps in certain areas, and only 50% GPU usage for instance.
Good thing is, you can set shadow quality/distance to Ultra in the launcher, and then paste the below Medium values over the Ultra values in the Fallout4Prefs.ini:
Code:
fShadowDistance=3000.0000
fDirShadowDistance=3000.0000KCroxtonJr
Member
Changing the distance alters more than those two lines of code. In fact, I did some testing, and changing iDirShadowSplits from 3 (high quality) to 2 (medium quality) has a pretty big impact on fps when shadow distance is high.
I was able to use 14000 shadow distance (high quality) with 2 shadow splits (medium quality) and still get good fps, but the quality of the shadows were horrible past a certain distance.
No doubt. What I'm saying is, in my testing on a relatively high-end system, is that those two lines were the only thing that made the difference in problem scenes for me. In only changing those two line, I can then keep Ultra detail shadows in all ways, but for the distance, as opposed to setting them to Medium in the launcher and losing shadow quality globally.
For those with weaker systems, more adjustments (as you suggested) will be necessary.
And honestly, since there are so few problem areas on my system, I haven't tried much beyond this with the shadow settings, and have simply settled with Ultra everything. It stays at 60 fps 99% of the time, with the only drops happening during key scenes in the larger city areas. Seeing as in every instance of these drops, neither my CPU or GPU are being fully utilized, it is an engine issue that will have to be addressed directly by the devs. These ini tweaks are ultimately a stop gap.
Alright, just making sure I did this right. I changed Shadow Quality and Distance to Ultra via the launcher, launched the game, quit, and then set:
fShadowDistance=3000.0000
fDirShadowDistance=3000.0000
That's all I really need to do, correct? Seems to have worked amazingly. Locked 60fps in the dense cities (so far).
Thanks to the both of you. Crucial tweak more people should know about.
If you're gettng a locked 60fps then that's fine. At that low distance though the shadow distance cut off can be a bit jarring at times so you might want to increase the values a bit, but you may then have to adjust the iDirShadowSplits that KCroxtonJr mentioned.
Sutton Dagger
Member
Getting a weird issue where my game is capped at 30fps but fluctuates wildly between 30 to 27 just walking around. It doesn't matter what settings I use (dropped it to like 720p at low details) it's the same.
So there is a lock happening somewhere but don't know how. I'm not running any software to cap framerate (I usually use rtss but turned it off to test the issue).... I'm stumped.
So there is a lock happening somewhere but don't know how. I'm not running any software to cap framerate (I usually use rtss but turned it off to test the issue).... I'm stumped.
Sutton Dagger
Member
If you select the 'low' preset in the launcher it will turn it off, then you just adjust the other settings manually.
Yes, that's correct. Again though, I haven't messed with it much beyond that, and it's possible you could increase the distance further, and retain the performance benefit in affected scenes.
Just as a warning though, while dropping the shadow distance to Medium levels isn't terribly noticeable most of the time, when you get some long distance views, the shadow coverage is almost non-existent when compared to High or Ultra.
Ultra Shadow Distance vs. Tweaked (no difference in the short range; disregard the slight shadow shift due to ToD):
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/151041
Ultra Shadow Distance vs. Tweaked (now you start to see it):
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/151038
I myself reverted to the default Ultra shadow distance because I'm not encountering the issue enough to care. That, and seeing as it isn't my setup to blame in these instances, but an apparent in-engine bottleneck, the devs are gonna have to address this; again, these ini tweaks are workarounds, not true fixes.
Soo, how do you figure out imagespace effect/modifier codes? There's rimod 00094636 and rimod 002041B6 to remove two scope effects, but my friend has permanent blur type filter on his screen. It got stuck after doing a certain quest that happened to have that effect for, well, reasons.
I only figured out that you can turn all imagespace effects of by using sisme 0, but that's hardly a good fix because it really turns all such effects off, permanently (or until you turn them on but then the blur comes back too). Loading a previous save isn't a possibility and he's tried all the usual sleep/doctor/etc. in-game features already.
I only figured out that you can turn all imagespace effects of by using sisme 0, but that's hardly a good fix because it really turns all such effects off, permanently (or until you turn them on but then the blur comes back too). Loading a previous save isn't a possibility and he's tried all the usual sleep/doctor/etc. in-game features already.
robgrab
Member
THAT'S IT!!! Thank you! It was driving me crazy. I'm bummed I wasted so much time playing all these mission with night vision. I'll probably go back to some of those locations just to see what they look like in color with contrast.
Same problem here, i doubled the shadow distance in the ini file and get like 35 fps in some places in the city. GPU usage stays around 40-50 % on my 980ti. Maybe we can hope for a patch, or it's an engine problem they can't fix.
I feel like I should get better FPS with my system:
770 GTX 2 GB
I5 4590
8 GB RAM
Windows 10
Temperatures are normal.
Playing on 1920x1080 (Borderless Fullscreen) with Shadow Distance and Quality on Medium and God Rays low/off, view distance lowered a bit too. I'm getting mostly 60 FPS anywhere not in the city. It's horrible in the city and interiors though. Goes down to ~45 FPS often and yesterday I even had 20 FPS once in a Medical Bay Center. Drops make it almost unplayable. What can I do? Any tips? My system should not have these problems with these settings
770 GTX 2 GB
I5 4590
8 GB RAM
Windows 10
Temperatures are normal.
Playing on 1920x1080 (Borderless Fullscreen) with Shadow Distance and Quality on Medium and God Rays low/off, view distance lowered a bit too. I'm getting mostly 60 FPS anywhere not in the city. It's horrible in the city and interiors though. Goes down to ~45 FPS often and yesterday I even had 20 FPS once in a Medical Bay Center. Drops make it almost unplayable. What can I do? Any tips? My system should not have these problems with these settings
CybernatonEvolution
Member
I only get 50fps and lower near the corvega plant and on top of it; only in specific directions. I locked the fps at 75-78fps via Nvidia inspector. Everything on ultra except for Godrays on medium, DoF on normal and motion blur is off.
I haven't wondered around too much, but only going to the previously mentioned place (Lexington is fine and the plant/around it are not that bad actually) dropped the framerate below 60fps; I had an instance where many feral ghouls in some city behind the plant caused the framerate to drop to 42fps. I get 78fps locked in most open areas and mid-sized settlements/cities; occasional drops to 60-70fps, and rarely below 60fps.
I have an overclocked CPU (i7 4770k at 4.2 GHz), GPU (Gtx 780 at 1100mHz Core clock) and RAM (16 GB with XMP profile at 1886mHz with 10 or 11 CAS latency I think). I can overclock the RAM more but I have to mess around with Voltage.
I haven't wondered around too much, but only going to the previously mentioned place (Lexington is fine and the plant/around it are not that bad actually) dropped the framerate below 60fps; I had an instance where many feral ghouls in some city behind the plant caused the framerate to drop to 42fps. I get 78fps locked in most open areas and mid-sized settlements/cities; occasional drops to 60-70fps, and rarely below 60fps.
I have an overclocked CPU (i7 4770k at 4.2 GHz), GPU (Gtx 780 at 1100mHz Core clock) and RAM (16 GB with XMP profile at 1886mHz with 10 or 11 CAS latency I think). I can overclock the RAM more but I have to mess around with Voltage.
There's been a workaround since day 2. I'm on mobile, but its out there in the steam forums.
Rushersauce
Banned
Overclocked my ram to 2000 from 1600. I must say these ram I got are a looot better than I thought. Put them under primr95 for 2 hours, no errors. Memtest, no errors.
Framerate went up.
Framerate went up.
wanderjahr
Banned
Did it improve your performance in FO4?
Rushersauce
Banned
Like 1 fps. Problematic areas remain the same.
wanderjahr
Banned
Well, you have the peace of mind knowing that you tried. Thanks for being honest.
Lockjaw333
Member
I can't get DSR to work with this game. The resolutions are not showing up in the launcher. Any ideas?
GTX 970 here.
GTX 970 here.
Peterthumpa
Member
Changed any .ini values? If so, delete the .ini files and try again.
texhnolyze
Banned
do you have borderless window selected? have to be full screen to use DSR
Enter the Dragon Punch
Banned
I think I figured out why there's more performance issues than the game warrants!
The game renders an entire second terrain, textured, below the ground so you can't fall through. It's only present outdoors.
I discovered it when I fell through the landscape.
Any chance a mod could get rid of this?
The game renders an entire second terrain, textured, below the ground so you can't fall through. It's only present outdoors.
I discovered it when I fell through the landscape.
Any chance a mod could get rid of this?
I've messed with a bunch of stuff to get a pretty good framerate but I'm still having big issues in large city areas like the financial district. Every time I turn a corner there's around a 50% chance that the framerate will drop to about 1-3 fps which is essentially the game freezing and it will last around 5-10 seconds everytime.
It's making that entire area nearly unplayable for me and its super annoying. Godrays are off and all the shadow distance and quality settings are on the lowest options. What the heck is going on here?
It's making that entire area nearly unplayable for me and its super annoying. Godrays are off and all the shadow distance and quality settings are on the lowest options. What the heck is going on here?
BizzyBum
Member
Honestly, this is one of those games (well, pretty much all Bethesda games) where I max the settings and deal with whatever FPS I get. Trying to get a steady 60 for a game like this is maddening and you end up playing around with settings and .ini's more than playing the actual game. lol
uncelestial
Member
I have a massive amount of RAM, so I tried running the game off a RAM disk with DimmDrive. I thought with the background streaming of assets that happens in an open world game that maybe I/O blocking was causing a framerate dip. While loading times were reduced (not eliminated but cut by maybe half) I never noticed a measurable FPS increase. Just reporting.
Yes, I had the entire Fallout 4 install running on a RAM disk. Sadly, no joy on FPS. If loading times are really bumming you out though, have at it. And hell, I bet there are little gains on pop-in time and the like as well.
But you have to be able to fit the entire 27 gig game into RAM. It really didn't like me selectively loading some of the game into RAM disks and leaving the rest on my SSD. (DimmDrive uses symlinks to forward I/O calls to the RAM disk in this case). Ah wlel.
Yes, I had the entire Fallout 4 install running on a RAM disk. Sadly, no joy on FPS. If loading times are really bumming you out though, have at it. And hell, I bet there are little gains on pop-in time and the like as well.
But you have to be able to fit the entire 27 gig game into RAM. It really didn't like me selectively loading some of the game into RAM disks and leaving the rest on my SSD. (DimmDrive uses symlinks to forward I/O calls to the RAM disk in this case). Ah wlel.
SirMossyBloke
Member
Damn, that's literally the only thing i've changed.
Anything else I can do to stop the stuttering then? It was driving me crazy.
Tallshortman
Member
I don't know if it's already been mentioned but the new beta AMD driver released a couple of days ago massively improves performance in my experience and for others from what I've seen.
Borderless windowed mode. It's the only fix that doesn't break the game.
RTSS / nVidia Inspector / CCC capping to 60 seems to work well for lots of people too.
That's after setting iPresentInterval=0
texhnolyze
Banned
Sadly, it didn't really give me massive improvements in framerates that I was expecting. Only gains about 2-5 fps outdoors. But overall the game has become smoother, so I won't complain I guess.
I always thought ramdisk will not improve FPS since newer games are pretty good at streaming or at worse preload.
FairXchange
Member
I play at 1080p.
Cap the framerate @ 60 with Riva tuner.. You don't necessarily have to touch anything in the.ini file..
uncelestial
Member
They probably are, but I figured it was worth a shot nonetheless. Gamebryo is getting on in years. Thought I'd rule out whether the game I/O-bound; it's not. It's not CPU-bound either. This thing is really bottlenecked at GPU power and memory speed.
I think it is CPU bound. The scenes that plummet frames will plummet frames at 640x480, too.