Would be nice, but there is no money in letting us play games we own. They will most likely make us "pay again" to download. Hope the jaded and cynical me is wrong.
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Sony confirms PS2 emulation coming to PS4
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Would be nice, but there is no money in letting us play games we own. They will most likely make us "pay again" to download. Hope the jaded and cynical me is wrong.
LiquidSolid
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FFXII HD is meant to be in development, just not far along. Better for us to wait for an announcement than to get an announcement and then wait a couple of years for a release like we did for FFX HD.
And yeah, PSX seems like a good bet.
It's a software based emulation, of course not.
PS1 and PS2 classics that are on PS3 already will most likely be cross buy/compatible with PS4.
Disc based emulation on the other hand, is probably never going to happen. They probably need to wrap every ISO they acquire in a wrapper and submit it for bug testing for their PS4 emulator. Which a PS2 disk based emulation would completely disallow.
Same with PS1 games on PS3, but they got that to work.
Melkezadek
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What am I missing in people dismissing disc-based on a count of selling digitally? We have PSone classics on the PS3 but we're still allowed to play our PSone discs.
Why would PS2 be different?
(not trying to be cheeky, legit question)
Why would PS2 be different?
(not trying to be cheeky, legit question)
Yes. The Star Wars games have them. Seems like some extra work is being redone. Which is why I don't think previous owned software will be free
Kenzodielocke
Banned
People are delusional in this thread.
Completely different things and they cannot be compared to this situation.
I agree that disc-based emulation is improbable, but arguing based on Vita's lack of UMD drive is not fruitful.
There's no way Sony will do it the way MS did. They'll make you buy any PS2 game you want to play on your PS4.
darkjedi187
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Dam Wario you got that right.
GrotesqueBeauty
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I'm sorry, I think I missed the part of your post that gives some context to what you're saying.
I changed my post, based on thinking exactly what you said here before you posted it.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
I didn't have to pay for PSX games I already bought for PS3 digital to play it on my Vita. I could also use my save file !
And why should Sony care what MS did anyway ? As many have stated in this thread, this is NOT a reaction to the BC on Xbox One.
I will eat my hat if there will be disc support. I think they will offer cross-buy between PS3/Vita/PS4 and I am fine with that.
You can run PSX games on a toaster.
Same with PS2.
Why is it that PS2 disks can't be played on PS3, yet we know they can be?
God of Gamblers
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They wanna charge you.
As much as I'm looking forward to a lot of RPG's I missed out on PS2 (SMT, Level-5 stuff, Suikoden), I wouldn't want every game to be a PS2 Classic. Remaster's are preferable due to the ability to improve other things like new textures and character models, proper widescreen support, and even some enhancements to game content.
For example I do not want FFXII on store. I'd much rather have an HD version of FFXII International. There's been rumours that come and go about Xenoasaga Trilogy being remastered and I'd love that. Having said that though, I'd take a PS2 Classic of every game that doesn't get a Remaster
For example I do not want FFXII on store. I'd much rather have an HD version of FFXII International. There's been rumours that come and go about Xenoasaga Trilogy being remastered and I'd love that. Having said that though, I'd take a PS2 Classic of every game that doesn't get a Remaster
GrotesqueBeauty
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I don't think it's a given, but it's not delusional to merely consider it a possibility until there's a confirmation. Sony has been responding to Microsoft's policies aggressively this generation, and in light of 360 BC on Xbox One I'd consider a disc option possible until Sony shuts the book on it definitively. I also think people are severely overestimating the impact disc compatibility would have on digital sales.
Don't you mean your bat cowl? ;D I don't consider lack of disc support that iron clad, and I don't think the possibility is so far fetched. Remember, the reason PS3 dropped PS1 discs is because it made the hardware more expensive at a time when they were priced higher than the competition and taking a heavy loss on each console sold. Software based emulation doesn't pose the same problem. Again, doesn't mean it's a given, but I'm searching for strong reasons why entertaining the possibility is "delusional".
Uh, Sony has been countering Microsoft every step of the way this generation. Hell, they were tap dancing on top of Microsoft's PR blunders before the generation started, they countered price drops even when PS4 was in a lead position, and they quickly added 3D Blu-ray support after MS announced it. Why shouldn't they care what MS does when they're fighting for the same audience and almost at a dead heat in NA month to month?
Sony removing the feature doesn't mean that they can't implement it on their newer more powerful console.
If only
RPGCrazied
Member
Not going to get excited yet. I'm sure this is just for PS2 classics that you buy from the PSN store.
I know I'm dreaming, but I'd love it for disc based support. I have a lot of PS2 game discs.
I know I'm dreaming, but I'd love it for disc based support. I have a lot of PS2 game discs.
No.
And yet their track record since has not given any indication in that direction
And how did those usable PS1 discs impact sales of PS classics on PSN? They didn't. And like I said before, they damn sure aren't netting every game, they're gonna miss out on some. There's no reason the feature shouldn't be included.
Because the PS3 was capable of handling PS1 games across the board so it was pretty safe for all discs to work. Early BC PS3's allowed PS2 discs to work for the same reason. PS2 disc support was dropped because after that because they couldn't guarantee all games would work without problems. Thus it's no surprise that the PS2 Classic library is heavily limited in comparison, and that a lot of the games available aren't the ones that pushed the PS2 all that strongly
PS4 should be able to handle PS2 games across the board. There's no technical limitation like the later PS3's so Sony are free to enable disc support. Not saying they will though
Hippopuncher12
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dragonyeuw
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I'm not the most technical person, but IIRC the 80gb ps3 used software-based emulation allowing you to play your physical disks. Any particular reason why a similar approach couldn't be taken for PS4? I actually think this could end up being an even bigger deal than 360 BC, given the increasing number of last-gen games being ported to ps4/xb1, and how universally loved the PS2 was/is, and as the other thread indicated the visuals are receiving more than a slight boost.
And you know what? That's complete bullshit on their part if that's the case.
LegendofDragoonLives
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Why wouldn't you wait until PSX that is two weeks away to make this announcement? Dat marketing.
Disc based emulation won't happen, how are Sony going to make money from that?
It'll only be for PS2 games that are currently on the PlayStation Store. Even when Sony implement emulation, they still need permission from the developers/publishers which could pose a whole new challenge.
Either way it has pretty much been confirmed for a while now, let's hope the games list is solid and doesn't lack the classics!
It'll only be for PS2 games that are currently on the PlayStation Store. Even when Sony implement emulation, they still need permission from the developers/publishers which could pose a whole new challenge.
Either way it has pretty much been confirmed for a while now, let's hope the games list is solid and doesn't lack the classics!
Hades Hotgun
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That doesn't address the point being made. They don't didn't restrict disc usage for PS1 games.
Because Sony's software development is run by monkeys (seriously though they're not doing a very efficient job on the software side)
Green Yoshi
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Me, too.
I hope Microsofs strategy for backwards compabillity influenced their decision.
Garrett Hawke
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They didn't announce it in any exciting or impactful way and I doubt it will be circulated very much until PSX. It's pretty clear that they just responded to it to stop the speculation.
What policies are those? Also we heard about ps2 BC long before we heard about X360 BC.
Danlord
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There was rumours of PS2 emulation in January 2014 with Eurogamer article and I *think* GAF member thuway hinting it (sorry if I am wrong), so this was long before the official Xbox 360 backwards compatible announcement by Microsoft, although there was rumours of that before too.
They will have already planned for PS2 classics long before and it was obviously needed in time for the Star Wars games bundled with the Vader bundle, but there's nothing official to say whether we will get local emulation or not and is quite reasonable to perhaps suggest if Microsoft's backwards compatibility announcement changed their mind about allowing local emulation if we get it..
Hades Hotgun
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Because the emulator quality on the PS3 is poor and can't run anything close to the full catalog. The PS1 emulator works for nearly every game.
That doesn't insure disc support on PS4, but it certainly isn't evidence against it.
Real reasons not to support disc BC would be due to the emulator having significantly less than full catalog compatibility as on PS3, perhaps the risk of exploitable holes in their security across such a vast catalog, and/or policy regarding requirements for trophy support on a game by game basis.