so the $73 asian version is the one I want?
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Play-Asia says SJWs to blame for DOAX3 not coming west
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so the $73 asian version is the one I want?
I'd like to know certain data such as sales and review scores for the previous games that made it over.
SJWism / toxic feminism is definitely an issue for gaming but imo to say they had a part in halting the game coming to the west would be giving those groups too much credit.
SJWism / toxic feminism is definitely an issue for gaming but imo to say they had a part in halting the game coming to the west would be giving those groups too much credit.
Didn't they basically say it's not worth the trouble?
Alright, so since we seem to have moved beyond Play-Asia's successful marketing stunt, maybe we can talk constructively on something else.
Like, where do you see Toxic Feminism as being an issue in gaming?
Crash Station
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I don't know if you can call them right wing extremist considering this season's treatment of the Republican party's frontrunner.
If MRA's dare soil humanism for the public, I'm going to personally summon up Carl Rogers from his grave to treat them with universal positive regard and try to find the good within them. Maybe I'll even use client-centered therapy to discover what is preventing them from achieving their self-actualized potential and help them meet their basic needs.
(Actually I'd probably try to help from a cognitive perspective and identify unhealthy schema and how they have led to their hateful worldview, but that's not quite pure humanism for the sake of Rogers)
Granted I don't watch South Park, so I can't make any hard judgements about it.
From my perspective it seems to be a show about extreme parodies of everything, and I think a diagnosis of it as a "safe space for the apathetic" seems accurate from a cursory perspective.
What exactly is "toxic feminism"? I've honestly never seen that term used, could you concretely explain what it is to me what it is and what impact it has?
From my perspective it seems to be a show about extreme parodies of everything, and I think a diagnosis of it as a "safe space for the apathetic" seems accurate from a cursory perspective.
What exactly is "toxic feminism"? I've honestly never seen that term used, could you concretely explain what it is to me what it is and what impact it has?
SuperBanana
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Err, what? I don't think you know or understand what right-wing extremism is. Just because they don't agree with something you agree with doesn't make them a hate group.
jack_package_200
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It weirds me out that people have the time to screencap tweets and reviews and post them together as a sort of shitlist because they have a fear of "the sjw bogeyman".
http://abload.de/img/deadoralivewesteysro.png
^Got this from gamefaqs thread where people are already saying Sarkessian had a hand in this. People are fucking crazy
http://abload.de/img/deadoralivewesteysro.png
^Got this from gamefaqs thread where people are already saying Sarkessian had a hand in this. People are fucking crazy
MRA's are pretty much an insult to everyone tbh.
I mean, the things they "fight" for are not actually men's issues, and when they do bring up legitimate men's issues it's to cover up their crap and get all up in your face about it. They mostly try to ruin the lives of women.
I've made tweets and deleted them within a minute and still had them noticed and cataloged by GGers.
It's a common tactic, taking multiple out of context screenshots and putting them together into an image that will fool people on simple investigations into believing that their cause is real.
A deeper examination of the image shows that most of the images they've captured have nothing to do with the current manufactured controversy.
Haunted
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wait what
MRAs who have jumped the label have gone on to call themselves "Egalitarian" mostly. They start off saying they're egalitarian and will then attempt to change the subject of the topic they've entered (usually about women's rights or some other such issue) into one about men. When it doesn't go their way, they get mad. Some use the name humanist as well but egalitarian seems to be the one they've attached themselves to.
Considering their treatment of literally any minority who at all dares to speak out about their hardships, I'm pretty inclined to believe that they're extremists on the right-wing. They've been like that for quite some time now too.
7 people and 10 articles as old as 4 years all stopped doax3 from coming out in the west. you heard it in that image folks, solid proof. check and mate.
"How 7 People in the West Run Asian Videogames"
SolicitorPirate
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I know this is not helpful, but the only response I can muster is the following:
lolololololololololololololololololololololol
This post exactly.
Try your hardest to answer those questions for me. Unless you're being intentionally obtuse of course.
Aquavelvaman
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SJWs must be incredibly powerful if it takes so few to kill an entire entertainment industry. Are they like the avengers or something?
Crash Station
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Examples? They're libertarians and have been pretty consistent as far as those beliefs go.
And I mean, the whole safe space plot point wasn't just mocking people that didn't want to hear mean things said about them, it was mocking people that didn't want to be guilt-tripped into donating to children in third world countries. That's not extreme right wing at all.
fucking timetravelling SJWs!!
Who's Master Xehanort?
Did you read the responses Coolio got? Because you probably should. That poster is pretty intellectually dishonest if they sincerely believe non-existent tweets and outrage are what is preventing this game from coming to the West. This is manufactured controversy, something GG is well experienced in.
Pray tell me what feminism is doing to ruin gaming. I'll be waiting.
The entire episode was meant to mock both strawmen extremes but idk who cares cause no one who wants to examine the nuances seem to want to talk about South Park anymore.
This is the weirdest controversy of all time. I'm still waiting for someone to explain what KT had to lose by releasing this game. It's not like the people who would supposedly be offended by this game were going to buy the next Atelier anyways
maladroit
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Is there anywhere to read their doctorate dissertation or articles they've had published in peer reviewed journals? Google isn't turning up anything in that vein.
Oh no... I remember taking a political quiz that identified me as "egalitarian"... what if I was the demons the whole time????
Jokes aside, there are valid issues facing men with regards to sexuality, but the time to discuss them is not when the discussion is about problems facing women. And ironically, when I do talk about problems that men have with sexuality such as society instilling the unhealthy belief that everyone "deserves" sex for doing tasks and that due to the tabooing of healthy sexual content and near exclusive presentation of hypersexualized non-sexual situations leading them to think the only way to have sexual gratification is through subversion and disregarding consent, it's the MRA who hate it the most.
I wouldn't say South Park is extremely right wing, at least far as I can tell. It shares a similar view on minorities and their treatment, but I know South Park is also very derisive towards theocracy as well. I think the best way to put it is that a lot of right wing rhetoric looks like it belongs in a South Park episode.
I didn't know that you had to have been published in peer reviewed journals to be a critic.
SolidSnakex
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Yes, the Asian edition specifically is the one you want if you're looking for one that has English.
sounds good.......its sad.....all I want is a volleyball game hahahaha.
and its probably not going to be even good
I kinda wanna use my power on getting Psychonauts 2 though.
Steve Youngblood
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Not until Kojima puts a sweatshirt on Quiet.
radios shipping overview
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Gosh, I just can't handle it when people analyze and take a critical view of games and other media after I buy them. It really gets me flustered.
you've done it now... you've upset the NATURAL ORDER!! (i legitimately can't tell if this is sarcasm or not, guess it's time to necromance up poe and ask about his law)
Are you seriously implying that you need a doctorate degree to criticize video games? And in what field does it even have to be?
If I write you some (amateurish) psych papers, can I be privileged with the right to criticize video games?
They were pushing a right-wing narrative about how safe spaces deserve to be mocked when all they do is benefit minorities who deal with enough shit as is. Safe space is more than the moronic simplicity that SP and other righties online degrade it to and it's a term that has existed for some time. It's not out of nowhere all of the sudden or some fad just because the people mocking minorities have no clue what it is. I would much rather see attempts to understand and emphasize but South Park does not live in that kind of world and never did. Their aim is to make a quick "joke" at the expense of people that the creators have no desire to actually understand.
South Park constantly does this in regards to minorities. Be it the lgbt community (especially it's horrible treatment of trans-issues), racial concerns, etc. etc. the example is pretty much the whole series.
As for them being libertarians? That's rich. Matt and Trey could give two shits about liberal social issues. Whatever they can do to disenfranchise a minority and push media out there that encourages and supports harmful behaviors to them they do that and don't really seem to have any qualms about it. Plain and simple. That doesn't read as libertarian to me. But South Park is getting way off-topic and that show can go fuck itself with a thousand pitchforks for what it does to simplify the issues.
MHWilliams
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I am indeed.
The answer, which by the way was prior to DOA5: Last Round being released:
TL;DR: "We know we have some critics, but eh, our stuff is good."
In the months between Last Round's release and now they just mentally reversed course?
I can't tell if it's sarcasm precisely because I steeped myself in the arguments of Goobergarb during it's genesis to better understand it. It was a fruitless endeavor to be sure.
This was a big talking point amongst them though.
maladroit
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They've been referenced consistently throughout this thread on a first name basis, so I assumed there were some credentials beyond "target of gamergate" or whatever. Fuck me, right?
Every group has bad seeds no matter how good the intentions are.
maybe they saw a sudden drop in doa5:fr costume dlc sales
i mean
this has to do more with specific people being assholes than any sort of group though. the only "toxic feminism" that exists as a group are TERFs and they have like nothing to do with gaming at all.
Wait a second... Just the other day people in off topic were telling me that an anime equivalent of Feminist Frequency to help promote better usage of tropes and healthy sexual content over hypersexualized non-sexual situations would be useless because the west has no impact on Japan...
(Yes, I know that the game isn't being changed in Japan, but this was done in response to literally nothing: imagine if people actually DID criticize the game)
(Yes, I know that the game isn't being changed in Japan, but this was done in response to literally nothing: imagine if people actually DID criticize the game)
Ivan Amiibo
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TyrantGuardian
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See, people keep saying this, and yet I haven't seen a single case of "toxic feminism" reported from any non-GG source. Makes you think.
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