Batman v Superman - New Official Trailer

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It looks like he's already bald and wearing a wig. This Lex is just bad all around. Maybe he has a transformation in the movie and gives a performance that saves the horrible job he's doing in these trailers.
It reminds me of the It's Always Sunny episode when Mac wore the bald cap with the wig on top of it
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Guessing you didn't like 300, Watchmen, or Man of Steel?

Would any of those be considered great movies? I can understand someone enjoying them but none of those were great pieces of filmmaking and matter of fact all were considered mediocre as a general consensus.

I personally think they were all failures or disappointing. Not complete failures, they had touches of great here and there but the guy has never elevated to anything more then middle of the road as a director yet he has continued to get such high profile movies .
 
I am loving Affleck as Batman.

Yep. Still really unsure about this movie, but Batman looks fucking awesome. Seeing him move like he's never moved in the movies before combined with that amazing costume is fucking perfection. As a fanboy, I would honestly rather have standalone Batman movies more than any Justice League stuff. But, I guess I've had my way long enough.
 
Guessing you didn't like 300, Watchmen, or Man of Steel?

None of those are considered great. I think the only film I would say that's "great" that he's done was dawn of the dead but that was a long time ago.

edit: I do like Affleck as batman. If he's able to direct/write his own stand alone film I would have complete faith in it.
 
Would any of those be considered great movies? I can understand someone enjoying them but none of those were great pieces of filmmaking and matter of fact all were considered mediocre as a general consensus.

I personally think they were all failures or disappointing. Not complete failures, they had touches of great here and there but the guy has never elevated to anything more then middle of the road as a director yet he has continued to get such high profile movies .
300 was like nothing before it; it literally looked like comic book coming to life on the big screen. And Watchmen was considered to be an unfilmable story that would never work on the big screen, yet he delivered a great (Ultimate Cut) movie.
 
Would any of those be considered great movies? I can understand someone enjoying them but none of those were great pieces of filmmaking and matter of fact all were considered mediocre as a general consensus.

I personally think they were all failures or disappointing. Not complete failures, they had touches of great here and there but the guy has never elevated to anything more then middle of the road as a director yet he has continued to get such high profile movies .

Actually, the way I remember it, Watchmen was considered great right up until Man of Steel came out.
 
What has Snyder done that can legitimately be considered great? Maybe Dawn of the Dead?

Everything else has been a complete disappointment or failure imo.

Dawn of the Dead is still my fav of his, TBH.

Man of Steel was just above mediocre.
300 actually has some great sequences, but I have issues with the source material (and, therefore, his slavish interpretation).
Watchmen...he completely missed the mark. There are admirable parts in it, but I think it's a failure, largely BECAUSE its so uninspired and faithful only in a superficial way.
 
Actually, the way I remember it, Watchmen was considered great right up until Man of Steel came out.

No it wasn't...not by a majority anyway. Sure some people may think so, but it's been panned pretty heavily here. It was one of the most boring movies I've ever sat through personally.
 
No it wasn't...not by a majority anyway. Sure some people may think so, but it's been panned pretty heavily here. It was one of the most boring movies I've ever sat through personally.

gaf is like the antithesis of the majority, don't take gaf's opinion on anything as what normal people think
 
The trailer seemed very strange to me. I'm a Zack Snyder fan, and I am looking forward to this film, but this trailer just seemed slapped together, it's missing the usual flair and thoughtfulness that a Zack Snyder trailer usually has.
 
Even on rotten-tomatoes it's mixed by both the critics and audience reviews. What other barometer would you like to use?

76% Audience Score is mixed to you? The 56% Critics Score is mixed. 76 % is positive. Anywhere else Man of Steel is in the postives. Rated 4/5 stars on iTunes. 4/5 on Google Play. 7/10 on IMDB. CinemaScore gave it an A-.

The critic opinions and audience opinions did not line up at all.
 
You mean aside from him smacking Clark's chest, remarking that Clark has a strong grip, and then telling Bruce he wouldn't want to fight Clark? Dude is trolling on a master level.

Yeah but movies do that type of thing as a wink to the fans as well, it's a source of humor. I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that he knows who either of them are based off those lines. They'll use that scene in lighter toned commercials probably as a note to end on.
 
This trailer was clearly made to address every complaint people had about the previous ones.

No humor/levity = Jokes on jokes from Bats, Supes, and Lex.

Why are they fighting? = They do because they have a disagreement then they team up.

Looks too dark = more bright scenes and crazy action "comic booky" scenes

I don't understand the plot/too vague = pretty much gives you a synopsis.

Problem was they needed to realize some of these complaints were dumb and ignore them, or at least not try to address them all in the same trailer.
 
76% Audience Score is mixed to you? The 56% Critics Score is mixed. 76 % is positive. Anywhere else Man of Steel is in the postives. Rated 4/5 stars on iTunes. 4/5 on Google Play. 7/10 on IMDB. CinemaScore gave it an A-.

The critic opinions and audience opinions did not line up at all.

Watchmen (what that comment is referring to) is 70% on RT. I would consider that mixed, yes. Either way, 70's are not "great."
 
Even on rotten-tomatoes it's mixed by both the critics and audience reviews. What other barometer would you like to use?

I wouldn't call 70% "mixed." even calling 65% "mixed" is a bit of a stretch.

either way, i wasn't making a statment about the movie, only that gaf is a terrible barometer to use for pretty much anything.
 
Watching this trailer again it feels like it was made in response to people saying the movie isn't lighthearted enough but the people making the movie don't actually know how to do lighthearted so this is what we got.
 
Oh OK. I just thought you would mind that someone has the same avatar as yours. I guess we're all good then :)

Geez, GAF is very territorial, huh?
Of course I don't mind, it would be a petty thing to care about. I wish everyone would rock a JJ avatar ;D.
 
I still don't get the "They should have a Wonder Woman origin story first!" posts. I mean... the DCAU Justice League cartoon introduced Wonder Woman (and several other characters, including a Green Lantern that was not the same one previously introduced in Superman TAS), in the very first episode (which was double, so, I guess, sorta like a short-movie).

If it worked for a cartoon intended for kids, why wouldn't it work in a film series intended for the general audience?
 
Watching this trailer again it feels like it was made in response to people saying the movie isn't lighthearted enough but the people making the movie don't actually know how to do lighthearted so this is what we got.

really? that first minute is as good as any 'light-hearted' back and forth banter i've seen in the genre. bruce had some great jabs in there. and lex made it appropriately awkward

the trailer goes off the rails after that though.
 
Well, dude reverse engineers a dead Kryptonian into a gigantic monster that it'll take THREE superheroes to defeat; implies that he knows who Bruce Wayne and Clark Kent are; and goads the two biggest superheroes of all time into fighting one another in mutually assured destruction.

And we had Donald Trump Lex Luthor, it's called Superman Returns. People didn't care for the real estate schemes.
Where is it implied he knows their secret identities?

Guessing you didn't like 300, Watchmen, or Man of Steel?
All bad films. To me of course.
 
I still don't get the "They should have a Wonder Woman origin story first!" posts. I mean... the DCAU Justice League cartoon introduced Wonder Woman (and several other characters, including a Green Lantern that was not the same one previously introduced in Superman TAS), in the very first episode (which was double, so, I guess, sorta like a short-movie).

If it worked for a cartoon intended for kids, why wouldn't it work in a film series intended for the general audience?

Because that's the way Marvel did it (and its largely been the way super hero movies have worked since X-Men) so people have trouble seeing past it.

It's not like they did their origin story in the Justice League comics either and those were for kids too.
 
Where is it implied he knows their secret identities?

I hope Lex doesn't figure out Superman's identity. It's kind of an important character trait that Superman's identity is constantly under his nose and he can never see it. Superhero movies seem to be putting secret identities in the outdated bin along with spandex though so who knows.
 
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