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[Celcius]

Go play Kingdom Hearts games and FFXIII-2 and Dot Hack.

Those were sequels, not episodic content for the same game though

 

[kayos90]

this makes way more sense than doing a full on remake with all that effort that was looking like it would have. this way you don't have to do a huge mega overworld all at once, or even at all. it can just hit the key points of the story, walking dead season one style.

I'm totally fine with this. Or they'll just use a waypoint system a la Lost Odyssey.

Those were sequels, not episodic content for the same game though

Kingdom Hearts is extremely linear and the episodic style would lend itself to any of the games really well.

EDIT: Oh. You were talking about Dot Hack.

 

[OrionsNebula]

All I can do is sit here and laugh...
Let's hope it turns out differently than it appears. Or at least better than expected

 

[NickWright]

Oh... oh.

Well, if they make all the Wall Market segment into a full game, I won't complain tbh.

 

[kewlmyc]

BURN IT TO THE GROUND.


In all seriousness, Life is Strange worked out, but episodic RPGs haven't really been done yet. I'm worried, yet interested.

 

[HeelPower]

Now that seems like an interesting take on it. They could develop the overworld, and make it so that over time it evolves and new areas and stories / continuation of the main story are accessible from it. That makes sense, I have doubt that's how it'll play out, but it makes sense.

In FFVII,You don't just get the complete world map and all locations available to you from the get go.

It gradually unfolds.EveryPS1 game did it like that and across discs.

Episodic game can manage it.

 

[Mushroomer25]

And people were worried about the game's battle system.

"ACTION? NOOO, PLEASE, I CAN'T TAKE NEW THINGS!!!"

"ATB? WHAT IS THIS? THE 90's?!!"

Now the game is episodic. OH MY GOD

I can't believe this is happening.

They're taking the one game where all fans demanded was a recreation of the original with modern visuals, and making massive changes based on modern market tastes.

Regardless of how good the changes are (Let's be fair, we're a LONG way out from even knowing if this is a good idea or not) - that's the boldest goddamn move I've ever seen.

Hope it goes well for them.

Spoiler

It absolutely will not go well for them.

 

[The Hermit]

 

[Roubjon]

It's disappointing, but I'm sure it will still turn out great. In the long run maybe it will be a good thing and will be bigger than it ever could have been otherwise.

 

[GamerJM]

I'm fine with this honestly.

 

[duckroll]

How often do episodic games really do this?

All the time? Episodic for console games is usually another way of selling season passes now.

 

[Henkka]

probably only way to make that thing economically feasible

aren't those old games absolutely massive? must be a nightmare to remake that, but now with photorealistic graphics and fully voiced characters and cinematic combat etc etc

 

[RPGam3r]

Typical internet reaction, blow a gasket before details. Can't just be curious gotta be pissy too.

 

[Gotdatmoney]

Haha oh I knew my trust in SE was misguided. Can't wait for the midgar escape to be a combat racing game next. Anything goes at this point apparently.

 

[PhillipCostigan]

This makes a whole lot of sense. All along they've said one of the reasons they were against remaking it was the sheer amount of time and cost it would take to remake VII. Y'all have no idea how much it would cost to make an entire game of the scale of VII in the fidelity we saw in that trailer, especially if they want to keep the game world intact AND develop a new battle system to go along with it.

Releasing it episodically allows them to ensure it's released this generation and they can better optimise dev time while getting back some of the colossal cost of development. And yeah, they probably get to charge a bit extra for it too.

Realistically it's probably the only way this thing gets made. Hoping for few (if any) compromises to game flow, but have to be realistic. Some of the things we loved from VII doesn't make sense to include now.

I'm cautiously optimistic, honestly.

 

[Zukuu]

RIP FF VII Remake dream hype.
2015 - 2015.

 

[Sub_Level]

Just like Half-life

Half Life 2 actually started out as a full feature-length game. The episodes came out after.

The .Hack comparison is better, or even possibly something like Digital Devil Saga. Games that were planned to be episodic from the get-go.

edit: Although the term "episode" makes me think they probably won't even be close to being as meaty as something like Digital Devil Saga.

 

[TheGreatDirector]

A WSJ reporter just tweeted this (read from bottom to top)

So basically like disc 1,2, and 3.

 

[LordOcidax]

What? No. It doesn't mean that at all.

Releasing the game in chunks doesn't mean it will be segmented like one. And like hell that means there won't be materia.

For the materia system you really need the overworld map to level up all the materias. Also "with each entry providing its own unique experience" this mean that you can play any part without playing the previous one. Also the Weapons.... i going to cry,

 

[Hibiki Kurosawa]

Well, to be fair each episode could be sectioned according to the numbers of CD's in which the original released which means they could still retain the open map but limited just like in the original game =D

Each part at 40.00 ofc =D x 100

When they say each part will be their own unique experience, I have doubts.

 

[robotrock]

Final Fantasy VII x 0.33 - 2016
Final Fantasy VII x 0.66 - 2017
Final Fantasy VII x 1.00 - 2019

All $60 entries

 

[Griss]

Damn, I'm glad I thought the trailer yesterday looked like something I just wouldn't be interested in - otherwise seeing that GAF headline would have made me fucking furious.

Leave it to Squeenix to fuck it up. 100% dependable at that.

 

[orthodoxy1095]

A WSJ reporter just tweeted this (read from bottom to top)

Huh. Interesting. They really are taking the "disc" approach eh?

 

[JeffZero]

A WSJ reporter just tweeted this (read from bottom to top)

Data size is so huge, the software will be split into several downloads.

OK, I'll go ahead and download them all at once, then. My PS4 can parse files.

(I'm actually one of the few people ITT who is mostly okay with this, but that answer is pretty lulzy.)

 

[Quintin DM]

Oh man I don`t know about this, it`s not necessarily a deal breaker for me like it seems to be for some, but it does worry me a bit.

 

[Angel_DvA]

I don't understand how people can defend it, how the fuck a RPG can be episodic ? what a joke...

 

[Lindsay]

what?

what?

I don't get it. How does rpg even get made anymore?

 

[meanspartan]

And what's amazing is that we know ZERO additional details. It could have been them saying dozens of things.

Ok. If there is something that makes this acceptable, they better fucking say something NOW.

And the only way this isnt crushing news is if its "we want to release the game in 2017 for the 20th, but it wont be done. So we'll give you half the game then, and half later (or thirds or quarters, whatever) for $60 one time"

That I could live with.

How much you wanna bet its not that?

 

[manipulate]

What you are asking for is a 1:1 remake which would take 10+ years to make, take up 2 dual layer BDs and cost $90.

Where are you getting this from? Do you think the game would be a significantly greater undertaking than FFXV?

 

[Digital-Hero]

In FFVII,You don't just get the complete world map and all locations available to you from the get go.

It gradually unfolds.EveryPS1 game did it like that and across discs.

Episodic game can manage it.

The discs have nothing to do with it. Every FF was gradual expansion of exploring.

 

[Feichaw]

Someone at SE: "Quick, show them the Sephiroth footage so they go back to hyped!"

Yeah, it'll probably be something like this.

I bet Kojima is the real mastermind behind this remake. He wanted Nomura to be the director because he knew he could control him. That would explain everything.

 

[ShooterMcGavin]

A WSJ reporter just tweeted this (read from bottom to top)

Wait...this changes everything. Maybe. I don't know anymore.

 

[Quonny]

A WSJ reporter just tweeted this (read from bottom to top)

Oh wow look exactly what a few of us said. They're fleshing out the game with more side/tangentially related content so they feel like full games.

Rabble rabble rabble.

 

[entremet]

I'm replaying it right now, there really aren't that many towns or bestiary (if you take out reskins. Granted I haven't played 15. I would think 15 has about the same if not more.

I'm talking about recreating them.

You saw Midgar right?

That didn't look cheap at all.

Imagine how detailed the rest of the towns will look in comparison? Plus all the dungeons as well?

 

[Scrooged]

Well, to be fair each episode could be sectioned according to the numbers of CD's in which the original released which means they could still retain the open map but limited just like in the original game =D

Each part at 40.00 ofc =D x 100

That's very unlikely. The whole point of them doing this is to spread out development time and create "unique" experiences for each episode. It sounds like this will not be in the traditional format of the original at all.

 

[Mortemis]

Yeeeaaaaaah, fuck this bs. They better charge $15-20 per episode, else they can fuck off.

 

[Servbot #42]

Seriously where is this rage stemming from?

Where does it say any of that is gone?

Y'all losing it hard.

Its just a joke that comes from my extreme cynicism and im not angry at all, bah im bad at making jokes.

 

[rhandino]

A WSJ reporter just tweeted this (read from bottom to top)

GENESIS, GENESIS EVERYWHERE!

Infinite in mystery is the gift of the Goddess
We seek it thus, and take to the sky
Ripples form on the water's surface
The wandering soul knows no rest

 

[Mr. Smiley]

Need to know more, but wow bro

 

[Flandy]

I guess this could still work if they treat each episode as separate discs? Way to put a damper on the hype tho :\

 

[dave is ok]

Golden Saucer mini games will cost real money

 

[Jinfash]

I don't know how to feel about an episodic JRPG. Has it been done successfully before? As someone mentioned, this makes me question the focus of the remake. The episodic model lends itself to narrative driven games a lot more than something like the original FFVII.

I predict a lot of... streamlining.

 

[A-V-B]

I actually wondered if this would be the case the day the most recent trailer came out.

"There's no way they can stick to this level of quality and release a full game in a couple years. They're going all in on Midgar, and releasing more stuff after."

 

[LordOcidax]

I don't understand how people can defend it, how the fuck a RPG can be episodic ? what a joke...

Agree. WTF is happening here.

 

[LiQuid!]

Remember how EPIC and HUGE the world of Final Fantasy 7 was when you first left Midgar? Remember how majestic it was to explore that world map for the first time and discover what the entire WORLD of Final Fantasy was outside of that worn down, industrial, steampunk city? It was MAGICAL.

I doubt this remake will even have a world map. They're going to filter you from one set piece location to the other. We'll get that familiar story. We'll get to see those characters lovingly rendered with modern graphics. But that sprawling epic sense of exploration that we all got when we played FF7 all those years ago is going to be GONE! Mark my words. This game is going to be on rails and soulless.

Overreacting? Maybe. I personally don't have any huge investment in a remake of FF7. The original captured a very specific point in my life. I was a teenager and my love affair with JRPGs was in its adolescence as well. Final Fantasy 7 ushered my relationship with them from puppy love and admiration to a full blown love affair, and I'll always love it for that. But I don't think a remake ever had a chance to recapture those emotions. Now I know for certain that it won't. The FF7 remake will not capture a moment in time. It will be a cheapened, soulless nostalgia play from a company that is aching for my money, and I'm not falling for it.

 

[NipplesAndToes23]

The fuck?

 

[Dark_castle]

You know which game won't be episodic? FFXV.

Back to worshipping Lord Tabata!

I'M SORRY FOR EVER DOUBTING YOU, FFXV.

 

[Tambini]

this makes way more sense than doing a full on remake with all that effort that was looking like it would have. this way you don't have to do a huge mega overworld all at once, or even at all. it can just hit the key points of the story, walking dead season one style.

just what nobody wanted

 

[JeffZero]

So basically like disc 1,2, and 3.

No. Because Disc 3 is the final dungeon and nothing else whereas Disc 1 is almost the first two-thirds of the game.

 

[joseph]

I thought that meant FF7 remake will be one game but there will be more prequel stuff and post-ff7 stuff that will come out as well. It's not just a one-off. But that's maybe just me.

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