Cyberpunk 2077, Elden Ring, Final Fantasy VII Remake and Duskbloods all run at 30 FPS on Switch 2
SweetTooth
Banned
Came out after or before doesn't matter. My measure of being "more advanced or not" is the final output and performance of the machine.
A 3090 is more advanced than RDNA , a crippled Switch 2 isn't.
Lionel Richie
Member
I'm sure Nvidia regrets partnering up with Nintendo and releasing what is inevitably soon to become the best selling gaming hardware of all time. Such a frugal endeavour surely relegates Nintendo to "leftover" territory.
FalconPunch
Member
Firstly bullshots. Secondly, I can't tell what you're comparing because you are being disingenuous with your comparison. Most of the shots aren't like for like.FF7 Remake. Steamdeck vs Switch 2
Not defending the steam deck here but, the steam deck will have a significantly cheaper cost of ownership. You could probably buy the rog ally x and by the end of the gen, you'd probably still come out ahead of switch 2 in total cost of ownership.
Woopah
Member
The specific quote was: "more advanced hardware than PS5, yet less powerful due to form factor constraints". It wasn't about power.
SweetTooth
Banned
I can accept that
Buggy Loop
Member
Yup, timestamped
Looks impressive to be honest. They say that they worked on this for only 7 weeks and by launch they have more work to do on it.
SweetTooth
Banned
Believe me Nvidia IS happy, I wouldn't say the same for Nintendo though knowing how Nvidia treat their vendors lol
FalconPunch
Member
The crazy thing is that Nintendo want to charge $700 CAD post tax for a system with out of date hardware. The system is struggling to play cyberpunk at sub 1080p and struggling to hold 30fps. Why anyone would pay money for that is wild.
I'm just comparing the power of the systems.
At the end of the day you won't be able to find a portable system that could produce this kind of image fidelity around the Switch 2 price.
Bernardougf
Member
Thats a nice looking ps3 end gen game.. whats the name?I'm just comparing the power of the systems.
At the end of the day you won't be able to find a portable system that could produce this kind of image fidelity around the Switch 2 price.
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Nintendo fans will.
Those gamers highly value portable gaming at the sacrifice of good specs and gaming performance. Hence why their handhelds always sold a shit ton of units. At least, it could be expected in the past when their hardware (both consoles and handhelds) are always dirt cheap vs the competition.
But the real test now is Switch 2 is at PS5/SX prices. And some games will be $80 US ($90 if they want physical). It'll be interesting how much sticker shock affects sales, or if the gamers and families buying Nintendo stuff just go with it with price being no object.
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Hero_Select
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Bernardougf
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Oh sorry ...he said portable.. didnt know the portable screen could do 4k ...my badPS3 has 4k60 games? Pleas try again
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proandrad
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I'm just comparing the power of the systems.
At the end of the day you won't be able to find a portable system that could produce this kind of image fidelity around the Switch 2 price.
Honestly… graphics just look like halo 3 at higher resolution.
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kazuyamishima
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There were plenty more, just like a lot of people were saying the system would be $399 and after the price reveal, the same people are saying that they were expecting 499 but $449 is fine.
I mean, these games had a PS4 version, and we have yet to see how they run on the Switch 2, June is coming soon tho.
WellSheet
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For the "only going to buy a Ninty machine" people, This is the only way they'd ever be exposed to these titles, so hurray, but god damn…I feel like if you're the type of gamer who'd wanna play Elden Ring, Cyberpunk etc….youd be a tinsy bit more savvy and just upgrade to Xbox or PS for a much better experience. Christ, the PS5 digital is essentially the same cost.
asdasdasdbb
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Switch (and the Switch 2) are really just handhelds with a dock. The correct comparison is with the Deck and not PS5/XSX.
PonyStation4
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I'm just comparing the power of the systems.
At the end of the day you won't be able to find a portable system that could produce this kind of image fidelity around the Switch 2 price.
Is that supposed to look good? The rocks look like they're made of plastic. The problem with Metroid isn't the capabilities of the Switch 2, it's Nintendo's constant use of low quality textures and flat lighting.
WellSheet
Member
I was more comparing the optimal experience for playing the games listed above, which are the more AAA "hardcore" gamer type titles, which is what led me to say that you'd think a one of the other home consoles would be a better option.
It was less about making and apples to apples comparison and more just what made economic sense/bang for someone's buck.
I get the trade off/value proposition is it's a convenient portable option….but in most situations I don't think it's use as a portable is really going to make the trade off worth it.
I'm sure there's use cases/edge cases but I'd doubt someone who is DYING to play a game like Elden Ring needs to do so at that level of performance so they can justify playing at the park while their dog gets run over by a truck or whatever the fuck
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Lionel Richie
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Nintendo is their vendor?
I'm going to be bummed if there is NO way to achieve 60fps for those games. Moreover, if it can't achieve 60fps with FF7 Remake, Rebirth may be a LOT further away than I thought.
Kind of a bummer they don't go with a lower res, "stylized" model for the characters, something closer to the original artwork, maybe that would afford them the added processing power to hit 60 frames?
Kind of a bummer they don't go with a lower res, "stylized" model for the characters, something closer to the original artwork, maybe that would afford them the added processing power to hit 60 frames?
darrylgorn
Member
At the rate that we're going up the Halos, the next MP gameplay reveal will be comparable to Halo Infinite.
Blitzkrieg!
Banned
Calm down, you're getting Rebirth.
Baemono
Member
I watched the DF video of Cyberpunk, go watch too, they say it can go as low as 972p.
And I insist because it was super annoying to watch that video again
We'll see
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kat_on_the_roof
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To be fair, I didn't buy a Switch to play graphic-heavy games. I mainly use the Switch in handheld mode and want to play games that are optimized for that experience including the UI and accessibility. If I think about playing Cyberpunk 2077, Elden Ring, or Final Fantasy VII Remake in handheld mode, my head explodes. Just the thought of handling the UI of those games in handheld mode is honestly kind of scary.
Cyberpunk 2077, Elden Ring, Final Fantasy VII Remake and Duskbloods all run at 30 FPS on Switch 2 - IG News
Update from April 3, 2025 at 3:20 p.m. IGN has revealed in a new article that the Switch 2 will finally support DLSS. The same goes for ray tracing. Original…news.instant-gaming.com
Thebonehead
Gold Member
My uncle at Nintendo sent me this leaked screenshot of it in action.
/S before anybody comes at me.
In all seriousness I'm interested to see some detailed analysis of how it performs in the retail version as this is one have that is pushing a lot.
Also will be interesting to see if Nintendo censor the character creator
Dorfdad
Gold Member
stop saying its out of date hardware. It's not like they took the old chip did nothing and released it. Its got all kinds of new features for gaming and AI.. Im not happy about the price either im more conserned with the game costs not the hardware. Anyone saying it's just an old chip are just looking to hate.
Dorfdad
Gold Member
I don't care anymore about numbers. What I care about is how it looks and feels. With DLSS and AI native pixels are becoming more and more irrelevant. If the game drops to 720p but the DLLS and AI get it to look like 1440p while I game why the hell do I care? Im not a pixel counter Im a gamer!
kat_on_the_roof
Neo Member
You do realize that you can't compare handheld devices with stationary devices, right? There is an extra cost and compromise when making a gaming system portable. I mean, look at the gaming desktop PC and gaming laptop situation you get less gaming power for the same or even higher price than a gaming PC. Or am I wrong?
for this price, it should
FewRope
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Honestly if you buy a game from the PS4 generation at full price, you should be considered not fit for society
Baemono
Member
It's remake integrade though, based on the PS5 remaster, not the original PS4 release.
SweetTooth
Banned
I meant their clients
SSfox
Member
Comparing 2013 console to a 2025 one, good keep going genius
Anything between 0 and 30fps was possible with that version. 30fps was mostly in menus, though. Really, that version was atrocious.
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Vaquilla
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2013 dedicated console.
2025 portable device that's a fraction the size and runs off a fraction the wattage.
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
Lambogenie
Member
Just like Switch1, not the place for third party usually. A shame because I'd like to play more.
Killer8
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Halo 3? lol, it looks even better than Halo 5.
There's no point even arguing with them. Whenever someone says "looks like a PS3 game" it's a sign their opinion is beyond redemption.
Quezacolt
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Some people say that the new mario kart looks like a ps2 game, we are living among truly stupid people.
ChoosableOne
ChoosableAll
It can't even run Mario Kart at a stable 60fps, I'm only surprised about Duskblood, which looks like a ps4 game.
Portugeezer
Member
Nintendo finally delivers with the portable PS4 people wanted.
That said, there's more to graphics than resolution and fps. Switch 1 MK8 was 1080p60 and basically no other games on Switch 1 ever ran at those specs. I wonder what kind of settings these games will run at, hopefully above PS4 due to the more modern tech.
That said, there's more to graphics than resolution and fps. Switch 1 MK8 was 1080p60 and basically no other games on Switch 1 ever ran at those specs. I wonder what kind of settings these games will run at, hopefully above PS4 due to the more modern tech.
Baemono
Member
From memory, don't know the full list:
- Fast RMX
- ARMS
- Splatoon 2 (dynamic though)
- Super Mario 3D World
- New Super Mario Bros U Deluxe
- Super Smash Bros Ultimate
- Super Mario Bros Wonder
- Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze
The games like Super Mario Party, Jamboree, Mario Party Superstars should run at 1080p 60 too but no one made an analysis of these games
Portugeezer
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I don't remember Fast RMX being 1080p60, but it's been 8 years so who knows
but yeah, besides Nintendo games you were looking at lower res and fps.