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Sure.
I guess so. I just like hearing completely different view points on stuff. That's usually what I find "interesting"
Star Wars: The Force Awakens |OT| A New Hope
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WadiumArcadium
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I'm almost more excited for the score than the film and I'm super exited for the film.
That John Williams HYPE
lol a lot of the movie reviews will be just as overblown, if not worst. What we'll have is what usually happens on gaming side, people picking out reviews that suit their various agendas.
The only opinion that should matter to anyone this week is what they personally think of the movie when they see it. I'm holding off from reading reviews until this Saturday once I've seen the actual film.
brandonh83
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And I think that can be true but also not completely. My only point was that four years of whining about something none of us can call out yet is already getting old. I get some here and there don't like Jurassic World, that's fine, everything has detractors. But I like to be more... open I guess, again I haven't seen anything I like from Rian, but that's simply because I haven't personally cared for his stuff.
I don't necessarily have a problem with his directing, but I haven't seen anything that tells me he'll make a great Star Wars movie. That being said, like with Trevorrow, they're in a different place surrounded by different people and writers and I just don't know what they'll do yet, let alone to the point of writing one of them off like it's a sure thing.
Finally I don't think they're going to hire directors that they don't think are fit for it, and unlike internet movie types I think these people are intelligent and know what they're doing.
Haloid1177
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All these wrong opinions in this thread today are giving me a headache.
True. Its a lot of stupid hyperbole around that movie.
Lukes parts makes the movie worth it by far. And Nien Nunb. Love to see this little guy again in two days
Ah, NeoGAF, where dissent is quickly branded as trolling. Love dat groupthink.
X3 and ROTJ were both fish in a fucking barrel for their respective directors thanks to what came before. JURASSIC WORLD lacked visual integrity (CGI flames on the Jurassic World door? Fuck off) so I would have been way more upset if Trevorrow directed the middle chapter.
And yeah, killing off Scott so he can go have seaplane adventures with Brandon Routh is a bummer. It's somewhat akin to Han Solo being utterly useless in ROTJ. He gets rescued from Jabba the Hutt to... stand in front of a door for the rest of the movie.
This is why Han must die Thursday night methinks. They even got Kasdan back to fire the gun!
X3 and ROTJ were both fish in a fucking barrel for their respective directors thanks to what came before. JURASSIC WORLD lacked visual integrity (CGI flames on the Jurassic World door? Fuck off) so I would have been way more upset if Trevorrow directed the middle chapter.
And yeah, killing off Scott so he can go have seaplane adventures with Brandon Routh is a bummer. It's somewhat akin to Han Solo being utterly useless in ROTJ. He gets rescued from Jabba the Hutt to... stand in front of a door for the rest of the movie.
This is why Han must die Thursday night methinks. They even got Kasdan back to fire the gun!
I'll give my full opinion. Empire is the best all around movie but ROTJ is my personal favorite. The Emperor's throne room scenes > Luke vs Vader in Cloud City.
The complaint about ROTJ that always makes me scratch my head is when people get upset and say that Ewoks beating Imperial Stormtroopers makes no sense, but then they turn around and say they want the Empire to build the Death Star shield generator on a planet of Wookies.
Daaaaaang man. You're in for a treat. I've seen them all I theaters since they rerelease do them in the late 90s.
Alone the music makes Throne Room much better
Haloid1177
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Alright you're a cool guy never mind.
Heck yeah. We were saying this last night, too. Exactly where I stand.
Lifejumper
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Lmao too much like star wars?
TheJollyCorner
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I'm starting to feel like if this thread was a discussion taking place in a bar some punches would be thrown by now.
Getting heated up in here regarding TFA being "ok" and Trevorrow!
I was under the impression that was the point after Disney took over....?
Getting heated up in here regarding TFA being "ok" and Trevorrow!
I was under the impression that was the point after Disney took over....?
Plus Vader
saving Luke in the end
Between this and the Star Trek Enterprise discussion yesterday, I think we're on the same wavelength with popular sci-fi franchises.
Ziltoidia 9
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In terms of mise en scene, ESB is the best SW movie.
It's not groupthink. It's that your analogy was poor.
As in it follows the same formula has the old movies.
Which isn't a negative for me, just may be for others.
brandonh83
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Where'd you hear that? Door was practical. It wasn't the one in the teaser. Also Trevorrow wanted more practical stuff and even had to fight for the apatosaur animatronic so he could get a better emotional performance/physical interaction from Pratt and Bryce. I thought the movie looked fine for the most part and the last 20 minutes or so of action were very well done.
WadiumArcadium
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Thing is, the Emperor has nothing to tempt Luke with in ROTJ. The movie VERY MUCH wants you to think Luke is a bit closer to the dark side because the first time you ACTUALLY see him in the movie he's strangling two pigs to death with the Force. Yoda might say that particular confrontation is the quick and easy route!
But that's really all you get other than thematic parallels with the hand. He's a saint in ROTJ for the most part!
But that's really all you get other than thematic parallels with the hand. He's a saint in ROTJ for the most part!
brandonh83
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Still looked very bad.
Didnt knew the one in the movie was real, should have stayed with the effect then.
BenjaminBirdie
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Hug your local cynic this weekend. They're going have so little to complain about and it's really going to drive them up the wall.
I don't think this is a surprising turn of events
Maybe not. But still a relief. Trailers can be misleading.
TheJollyCorner
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Not directed at you, 90sRobots, but the discussion has me thinking:
Why did Luke bother having his Lightsaber hidden in R2? It seems so much of that big plan could have gone totally wrong. Then again, I guess someone can write that off as Luke's Jedi clairvoyance giving him confidence in how things would go down exactly... right?
Also- he makes the aggressive first move force grabbing the blaster so he can assassinate Jabba. Luke really seemed to tap dance on the edge of the Dark Side quite a few times in the OT.
Luke Force chokes guards at the start of the movie, walks into Jabba's palace and straight up threatens everyone immediately, tells Leah to blow up Jabba's raft probably murdering a bunch of innocent people in the process, and then later in the movie snaps when Vader threatens Leah going Dark Side.
The movie at multiple points makes you think Luke is walking the line towards the Dark Side (including having him dress in all black).
The Emperor tempts Luke towards the Dark Side by saying that Luke will be powerful enough to destroy the Emperor if he goes to the Dark Side. "Strike me down with all of your hate and your journey to the Dark Side will be complete"
Those are some low expectations you have.
Sikamikanico
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Just booked 10 tickets for me and some pals for this Sunday - I am BEYOND hyped.
Gonna go dark until then - Hope you all enjoy it.
Gonna go dark until then - Hope you all enjoy it.
Door was real, flames were VERY fake. Surprised I didn't see Sirius Black in that shit.
brandonh83
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Uh... no? It looked fine. Way, way better than the placeholder in the teaser which WAS bad. The one in the final film was practical and fine.
edit: you guys are talking about the small flames? Sorry, didn't really take a microscope to that
SuperBanana
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I didn't get this.
AtomnayaKlubnika
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I envy people with low expectations.
I am talking about the door.
Do you really expect it to beat the nostalgia of the originals? Never going to happen. So those expectations aren't low, they are fair.
Haha like I guess? I was born in 1984 so JEDI was always "the one that was always on TV" for me. I mean yeah he goes FULL HAM on the skiff but there's also trumpety swashbuckling Star Wars music going on, nothing sinister.
I do totally agree with you that Luke uses his status as a Jedi Knight to get threaten an audience that could include ANYBODY. That's really aggressive!
*Shakes fist*
brandonh83
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Okay. I don't see what was bad and I find it nitpickery at best so to each his own.
internetwolf
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One of my Star Wars google cardboards came today!
TheJollyCorner
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I swear to Jimminy fucking Christmas if you guys keep talking about some goddamn flames on a door in Jurassic World.........
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Plus in a deleted scene from ROTJ, Vader is talking to Luke through The Force while Luke is building his lightsaber. So that could also be causing him to go a bit more Dark Side. I actually like Luke going boss-mode a bit in the early parts of the movie though, it makes him feel a lot more imposing and a more powerful and grown up person compared to where he was in Star Wars and Jedi. It also makes the moment near the end of the movie where he rejects the Dark Side a bit more satisfying.
SuperBanana
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He wears black the entire movie as well but at the end a bit falls open revealing white inside after he resisted the Emperor.
brandonh83
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Believe me, I'm with you.
Always expected this after the backlash to the PT. there will be call backs and they want this movie to feel familiar while setting up the overall arc of the trilogy. Based on impressions if this can match ANH or even surpass it by a little bit we're potentially looking at the 2nd best SW film.
I already know I'm going to enjoy myself
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