Supply Chain Rumors Reaffirm iPhone 7 Will Not Have Headphone Jack

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EthanC said:
Look up "wishful thinking", and you'll find your post. Hilarious.
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That's hilarious. There's just one guy in this thread that's wishful thinking here, i'm going to let you figure out who that is.

You're the one actually proposing that there'll be a large shift of iPhone users to Android over something that can be solved with a 5$ adapter, if people even care at all. You do know a lot of people just use the supplied earbuds and don't even give it a second thought, right?

Go scream in a pillow somewhere, breh. Watch it be the best selling iPhone of all time. The world is not a GAF thread.
 
Hoo-doo said:
But, that doesn't mean i'm immediately taking my business to the wasteland that is Android. Get fucking real.
I'd begrudgingly buy a 5$ adapter and move on with my life owning a great phone. That's what will happen.
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I don't agree that there would be a big switch away from the iPhone if this happens, but there is more than one "great phone" out there. Obviously some people prefer iOS (and/or the Apple ecosystem), but let's not suggest that Apple is the only manufacturer of great phones.
 
Don't people get sick of buying proprietary adaptors when other devices just give them to you? I get that the adaptor would be relatively cheap, but it's not like they're cutting the price of the phone to make up for the lack of a jack.
 
Omadahl said:
Don't people get sick of buying proprietary adapters when other devices just give them to you? I get that the adapter would be relatively cheap, but it's not like they're cutting the price of the phone to make up for the lack of a jack.
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if it hasn't had a huge impact on sales then clearly people are fine with it

honestly if they remove the headphone jack, and the new phone includes the adapter, I will be a little annoyed because I don't plan to use it. It will just be another tiny plastic thing for me to lose/throw away/accidentally swallow
 
Omadahl said:
Don't people get sick of buying proprietary adapters when other devices just give them to you? I get that the adapter would be relatively cheap, but it's not like they're cutting the price of the phone to make up for the lack of a jack.
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It's going to be more expensive, the jack itself is manufacturing thing but probably has no real cost, maybe (0.001% of the entire BOM). An external DAC would likely cost them a couple bucks to make and will probably sell between $20-$30. There is no immediate cost benefit to consumers and it would never be positioned as such.
 
Apple developing revamped, cord-free Beats with charging case ahead of iPhone 7

Apple is prototyping a completely new set of Bluetooth earphones with the potential of launching the accessory alongside the iPhone 7 this fall. The new earphones are said to be completely wireless, which is to say that they do not even have a cable connecting the left and right ear pieces. Sources say that the headphones are similar in concept to the Motorola Hint headset (pictured above) and Bragi’s new Dash headphones that were shown at CES this week.
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It’s expected that the in-development accessory will include a noise-cancelling microphone system, enabling phone calls and communication with Siri even without Apple’s prior in-line microphone and remote.
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http://9to5mac.com/2016/01/08/iphone-7-wireless-headphones-beats/
 
Interestingly, Apple will know exactly how many users actually plug anything into the 3.5mm jack (last game I worked on detected it, we could then work out how to develop the audio in the game). Analytics yo.
 
Hoo-doo said:
Lol, you got to be joking. People are a lot more attached to their iPhones than a single 3.5mm jack removal can undo.

I mean, I use the 3.5mm jack literally for hours every single day, no exceptions.
And IF this jack would go away, I'd consider it a very shitty move. No doubt.

But, that doesn't mean i'm immediately taking my business to the wasteland that is Android. Get fucking real.
I'd begrudgingly buy a 5$ adapter and move on with my life owning a great phone. That's what will happen.
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Well, it certainly sounds like Apple will be testing everyone's faith. Glad you're going to pass their test and get accepted into Apple Heaven (tm)
 
infiniteloop said:
Apple developing revamped, cord-free Beats with charging case ahead of iPhone 7





http://9to5mac.com/2016/01/08/iphone-7-wireless-headphones-beats/
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Oh god, those things are so tiny. How do they charge, wirelessly on a pad? Is there even enough room in there for the audio stuff, battery, and wireless receivers, plus a charging port? What's the battery life supposed to be on them?

God I want battery tech to improve. Hopefully if all this pans out that's what'll happen but oof, the first stages are bound to be rough.
 
WordAssassin said:
Oh god, those things are so tiny. How do they charge, wirelessly on a pad? Is there even enough room in there for the audio stuff, battery, and wireless receivers, plus a charging port? What's the battery life supposed to be on them?

God I want battery tech to improve. Hopefully if all this pans out that's what'll happen but oof, the first stages are bound to be rough.
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The Bragi Dash last for about 3 hours, and come with a molded charging case containing its own battery which can charge the headphones about 5 times over.

It's actually been a pretty fascinating project to watch, because for the most part they seem to have executed on all their initial goals and impressions have been positive. Really interested to see what the R&D budget of Apple can do for a similar product.
 
New headphones look awesome. I've always been interested in the new group of purely wireless buds with the Bragi seemingly in the lead so far. Picking up a pair of these Day 1.

And it's a Mark Gurman article so it's 95% a lock for being true.
 
Pretty sweet news. Hope they drop lightning altogether too and force inductive charging. Then make the phone 5mm so I can put it in my suit jacket and not feel it.
 
infiniteloop said:
In a case.
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Zaph said:
The Bragi Dash last for about 3 hours, and come with a molded charging case containing its own battery which can charge the headphones about 5 times over.

It's actually been a pretty fascinating project to watch, because for the most part they seem to have executed on all their initial goals and impressions have been positive. Really interested to see what the R&D budget of Apple can do for a similar product.
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Oooh yes, interesting. I'm reading the article now, the charging case sounds like a very cool idea.


Future said:
Exactly. Does apple even sell anything that is $5?
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I don't think Apple sells anything under $19 :/
 
michaelius said:
Because he is missing at least one 0 to the price tag if Apple even allows such adapter ;)
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If apple even allows such a thing. Ha.
Going data port > headphone jack has been allowed/available since the iPod days. You can literally go to apple right now and buy an adaptor shaped like a dock that will output audio over 3.5mm from the lighting cable.
 
The crazy thing about a change like this is it would have a massive effect immediately. Look at your workplace.... What do you see? Wireless headphones? I work in tech and even us geeks are still using wired headphones 90% of the time.

Other large changes like no disk drives in laptops were at a point where people actually had started to stop using them. We are not there yet here.

At the end of the day there will just be an adaptor for everyone regardless... By damn. Talk about actually REQUIRING an accessory purchase this time around and stealth increasing the cost of the phone
 
Future said:
The crazy thing about a change like this is it would have a massive effect immediately. Look at your workplace.... What do you see? Wireless headphones? I work in tech and even us geeks are still using wired headphones 90% of the time.

Other large changes like no disk drives in laptops were at a point where people actually had started to stop using them. We are not there yet here.

At the end of the day there will just be an adaptor for everyone regardless... By damn. Talk about actually REQUIRING an accessory purchase this time around and stealth increasing the cost of the phone
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I see lots of wireless headphones at my office, and white apple ear buds when people are walking around.

(full disclosure: I work at apple)
 
The thing that kills me is I love my Bose noise cancelling headphones and you have to have the wired ones if you want to use them on a plane. So I'm stuck with a dongle if I go with a new apple phone.
 
I'm mostly worried about how shitty the Lightning cables still are. Everyone single one I've had has frayed/shorted. My current one on its way out too. You go through the white headphones too but they usually last 2ish years. The lighting cables seem lucky to last a year.
 
infiniteloop said:
Yup. People will buy an adaptor or use the pack-in headphones. Most people probably won't know it's missing until they open the box.

The idea that millions of people will switch because of it is laughable.
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Not saying the situations are 100% compatible, but when the Xbox One was originally not going to play used games it was pretty huge news. Even after backpedaling on that, people STILL thought the XB1 didn't support used games after it released.

Again, not completely comparable because the XB1 did a couple other fuck ups (bundled Kinect, more expensive, and less powerful), but a device as popular as the iPhone suddenly removing a major standard feature and the rumors about it coming so early before release can and probably will reach a good chunk of the general public. And if the rumors and news stories don't do it, I'm sure Samsung and other competitors will take FULL advantage over it in their own ads, haha.
 
Rodney McKay said:
Not saying the situations are 100% compatible, but when the Xbox One was originally not going to play used games it was pretty huge news. Even after backpedaling on that, people STILL thought the XB1 didn't support used games after it released.

Again, not completely comparable because the XB1 did a couple other fuck ups (bundled Kinect, more expensive, and less powerful), but a device as popular as the iPhone suddenly removing a major standard feature and the rumors about it coming so early before release can and probably will reach a good chunk of the general public. And if the rumors and news stories don't do it, I'm sure Samsung and other competitors will take FULL advantage over it in their own ads, haha.
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its not comparable at all. come on
 
icespide said:
why do they have to be wired on a plane?
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No transmitting devices on takeoff or landing, which Bluetooth qualifies as. I imagine some airlines might even still be banning transmitting devices alltogether.

Anyway, this sounds like a dick move to me. I'm using a Nexus 5 right now but I'm thinking of getting an iPhone as my next replacement since getting an iPad Air 2. Not dissatisfied with Android really, just want some variety and to keep my devices in the same ecosystem. I can't imagine any advantages this brings for me. I have plenty of good headphones I'd like to keep using (and for that matter, want to keep useable with everything else with a headphone jack) and having to add an adapter that might break, get lost and add more bulk and potential stress points for the headphones is just a bad deal. I'd lie if I'd say this isn't making me reconsider switching a bit.
 
Nivash said:
No transmitting devices on takeoff or landing, which Bluetooth qualifies as. I imagine some airlines might even still be banning transmitting devices alltogether.

Anyway, this sounds like a dick move to me. I'm using a Nexus 5 right now but I'm thinking of getting an iPhone as my next replacement since getting an iPad Air 2. Not dissatisfied with Android really, just want some variety and to keep my devices in the same ecosystem. I can't imagine any advantages this brings for me. I have plenty of good headphones I'd like to keep using (and for that matter, want to keep useable with everything else with a headphone jack) and having to add an adapter that might break, get lost and add more bulk and potential stress points for the headphones is just a bad deal. I'd lie if I'd say this isn't making me reconsider switching a bit.
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This is still the case because it's still the law in some countries.
 
Nivash said:
No transmitting devices on takeoff or landing, which Bluetooth qualifies as. I imagine some airlines might even still be banning transmitting devices alltogether.

Anyway, this sounds like a dick move to me. I'm using a Nexus 5 right now but I'm thinking of getting an iPhone as my next replacement since getting an iPad Air 2. Not dissatisfied with Android really, just want some variety and to keep my devices in the same ecosystem. I can't imagine any advantages this brings for me. I have plenty of good headphones I'd like to keep using (and for that matter, want to keep useable with everything else with a headphone jack) and having to add an adapter that might break, get lost and add more bulk and potential stress points for the headphones is just a bad deal. I'd lie if I'd say this isn't making me reconsider switching a bit.
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You should wait and see what they do with their new phones maybe the dongle is small and packed in and not much of a big deal. I normally listen in my car via lightning cable and use Bluetooth at the gym. At home I use a PC and speakers for music but have wired headphones as well.
 
I love my headphones but whatever ill deal with it. There are rumors itll have wireless charging too so just give me a lightning adapter or something, i dont care.
 
badcrumble said:
Sounds neat but also sounds like they'd have awful battery life at that size. I'd prefer a model that has the option to use wirelessly or the option to use wired.
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Make them connect via MagSafe and seamlessly transition to Bluetooth when the cord is yanked out.
 
badcrumble said:
Sounds neat but also sounds like they'd have awful battery life at that size. I'd prefer a model that has the option to use wirelessly or the option to use wired.
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The battery life of my current headphones is infinity. Yep. No finite life non-replaceable Li-ion batteries in my UM3Xs. They're brilliant. But the nobheads at Apple have got other ideas on how to fuck up their products.
 
What is with this trend of removing features from smartphones? First it was removable batteries, then it was SD cards, then MicroUSB was next to go, now 8mm jacks? I understand people want a streamlined experience, but it's designed in a way to extract as much money from Joe Blow as possible every step of the way.
 
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